We're playing on elysium

[Divine88 0]

I guess it's better to stoop to the level of aids instead of disregarding it.

[Leytere 1]

19 hours ago, kastle said:

that post made me respect the team more.

^ This.

[Jupes85 5]

I think like most people, all I care about is having a stable and reliable experience. That being said, I think we've all been to some degree guilty of overhyping Elysium/Nostalrius as completely transparent, honest and I suppose pretty revolutionary projects, but realistically, they are private servers that are gonna deal with corruption and buggy mechanics like all the other projects. I can see people being upset at the idea, but it's probably unrealistic to assume that this was never gonna happen.

I personally wasn't a huge fan of the post. I just don't think you ever wanna feed fuel to a fire. You never wanna give people any more ammunition. But it is what it is. Some people are gonna love it, others hate it, and the vast majority won't even see it.

Edited February 24, 2017 by Jupes85

[kastle 4]

2 hours ago, Divine88 said:

I guess it's better to stoop to the level of aids instead of disregarding it.

disregarding and being the 'bigger person' has just invited more people that feel like they can hop on the bandwagon and shit on the project because there aren't any repercussions and the team is just going to roll over and take it while remaining as politically correct as possible

[Kharfax 0]

ok, this is gonna sound cheezy where here i go:

Elysium project is my first real wow experience, i remember played it several years ago with my friends in a cyber (its a place that has a lot of pc and internetc conection in poor countries or at leats not advance enought, they dont exist no more, at least in my country argentina). In that time, wow dint not catch my attention, prob cause i got no internet conection in my house and i had almost no social life).

now in my late 20s, law student and having a job, i understand why ppl loved this game, is not about the grind, is not about the challenge, is about a place we can call a "home" remember that guy you helped cause he was selling 8 slot bag at 8s? you told him that the vendors sold them at 5s, remember that guy that was a newie like you but you had the experience do do deadmines and he learned a lot cause of you? thats another reason.

We can do 3 things, 1: just ignore the corruption (that seems that the staff is trying to fix), 2: play the game and make this server another corrupt game (im talking to you aeria games), or we can fix this stuff and try to do this server a better place. We, as community, can make this place great and we have the power to do it. Trust in you guys. We really can do it.

Edited February 25, 2017 by Kharfax

[Lapinlehmät 1]

On 23.2.2017 at 7:52 AM, Voice said:

To all the drama people, wouldnt it be great if you had your own forum where you could talk about this drama that nobody cares about?, theres like 5 or 10 of the same names again and again saying the same things over and over again...We get it, you dont like Elysium WoW, move on...

Well I like to play on Elysium and hope it goes well in the future but like also to discuss about these things that are not considered so positive towards Elysium project. My aim is to gather constructive comments from this community but my thread was closed. So there seems to be no way to discuss very openly about things here.

[Voice 2]

Its just getting old with the "game ending doomsday" talk day in day out, but i guess flaming and lying is a hobbie for some of the kids these days.

[ztrapoon 0]

Is this for real? People complaining about corruption on a private WOW server? While they probably live in some corrupt shit hole country, they care about whether GM took some sort of bribe?

 

I really hope staff don't listen to those lunatics. Most of us want bugs removed and content added, and honestly don't give a shit about drama or some kid called alex. IMO keep selling gold or loot if that's what it takes for you to keep running this server - just don't inflate the economy too much please.

Edited February 27, 2017 by ztrapoon

[Euya 0]

On 2017/2/23 at 2:18 AM, Swolbie said:

Trust the staff, trust the project, and trust the legacy. 

Nobody owes you a damn thing but elysium chose to host this game for us. NOT CRESTFALL, there's a saying that says remember where you came from. The elysium team gave us a home and I can say that I am loving the game thus far and hope it remains this way. 

some drama arose through alexensual and crestfall, it's funny but you should know alexensual is banned for accusations and giving people a bad taste about the server; it's clear to me why he's banned. Now this kid makes money from his YouTube channel about vanilla, if elysium succeeds and runs a successful server alexensual will eventually die off. He will keep making videos trying to stir shit just be aware. Don't change your loyalty because of this clown, this server deserves a chance.

 

 

Thank  you for The elysium team!

As an ordinary player, I love this game, and I hope he can survive forever！

[mr. knowitall 0]

On 22/02/2017 at 8:29 PM, Drehar said:

This is defiantly one of those times when you question what to do next.
Do not give up on….
The people you enjoy playing with.

The first half is as true as it gets and the last part as well that you should not judge alone by past but also what is to come, you ask yourself and compatriots can you trust in a server who had corruption exposed and where the ship was almost abandoned and the lead refused to give out a message for days ?

 

Ask yourself and your team this a few times since if any doubt in the matter remains then the doubt will spread from you to others and only take away the wind in your sails. You can try out 2-3 servers or look them up just to be certain where you stand is not only due to population but your own will as private servers are time investments not money and as thus you are not bound however a come back even after a blunder like this is not impossible but due to the poor way it was handled it could have created a snowball effect of small doubt that will escalate over time

[alkovirus 0]

trust them, don't question them, forget about the past, move forward.

[mr. knowitall 0]

20 minutes ago, alkovirus said:

trust them, don't question them, forget about the past, move forward.

It is great to see some who see what is happening here, i can almost guarantee someone will call this fella a spy or troll but fact is shit was burning and the team collapsed and lead refused to answer due to emotions as we confirmed by listening to the teams meeting that was leaked shortly afterwards. You need to question Elysium, yourself & your friends if you stay and you should not forget the past but try to move on from it if you decide you are OK with all that occured or what the future will bring for a server that lived a couple months and already had corruption & disbandment occur. population is one thing but it is not permanent as players move around all the time new ones start old ones stop and there is plenty of 1.12.1 servers around.

[Morathe 5]

On 2/22/2017 at 10:32 PM, mortisxamor said:

Doesn't it matter that one of their gm's was caught selling gold? Doesn't it matter that a top horde side guild disbanded in disgust after being offered certain loot tables for money? I'm not saying form a lynch mob but these things SHOULD matter to us. I want this place to be amazing and enjoy playing as well but part of the requirement for that is the staff behaving with proper ethical standards...otherwise this just turns into a pay to win server where your wallet can earn you anything....It is a FACT that gm's have now been caught selling gold and trying to sell items...that's why crestfall has ran off. The alarming thing is that every team that started to work with elysium has suddenly decided to stop amid massive controversy that ended up being true. I'm sorry but these things DO matter and need to be addressed....and not just with a long winded fuck you to anyone who questions us....i hope thigns work out for the best but the way they are headed now it's not looking great.

I agree its important for future quality of the server aka quality control must be in place cause human error is a big factor but... BUT... I expect this project to be A LOT of work, a lot of private time invested into this as a HOBBY, once again A HOBBY not a job, these people have to get money for living. Honestly I wouldn't care if they sold gold for money so they dont have to spend 8 hours a day in some shit work and instead work on bug fixing and content.... you can buy gold on server anyway so whats the difference where does it come from.  I dont know anything about anyone buying items from gms or anything like that. 

 

Anyway guys why not just stick to get good things and enjoy whats good about the server aka population, our old chars etc? There bottom line there is no alternative... where u gonna go? Those rival servers that are in development are just that... in development. Once they release and prove to be of higher quality, less corrupt, less prone to human error then we might discuss possibilities but now? Just fucking get the most out of ur f2p experience. 

 

[Fizzlestix 1]

On 23.2.2017 at 2:15 AM, TheHappyCatsTail said:

right because this is such a trust-able team at this point.

You are part of the problem, not the solution.

Going onto the official forums and crying Bloody Murder every other day does not help anyone. I know that you are doing this because you think it's for the good of the project, but it's not. You're just creating a toxic atmosphere which will turn away players who would have otherwise been happily playing (because in-game you don't feel any of the drama from on here) or make the admin staff less and less motivated to invest their time and effort into the project.

Think about it from another perspective. Let's assume that everything you cry about is true. Who benefits from your constant drama? The devs? If everything you say is true, then they are part of the problem and you telling them the problem is no news to them. If they're corrupt, then they don't care if you constantly foretell the doom of the server. The only thing you'll accomplish it to drive away the players who still believe in the project. If they aren't corrupt, then you're just creating fake drama which will also drive away players.

Now if (and that is probably the most likely case) there are some bad apples in the dev team, then your constant whining will still not achieve anything.

Because the decent folks from the dev team will always know more than you do because unlike you they are on the inside. And if they don't decide to act on whatever dramatized speculations you throw at them, then it's either because they know that those are just made-up stories or because they already did act on them but decided not to share that with the public.

The bottom line is: your influence as a player on this realm is very little. You can't force the hand of the developers in either way. If they want to run the server in a shady way, your constant laments won't stop them. If they are decent folks who want nothing but the best for the server and their players, your constant laments - again - won't change anything about that either.

In the end, all you can do is trust them to work to the best of their moral and technical capabilities. At no point do your conspiracy postings help that process.

All you are doing is set fire to the house you're so eagerly trying to save.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

[Morathe 5]

I personally laugh at people that have this hardcore version of "question authority", marked with it like they were a cattle. People going nuts INVESTIGATING theories, conspiracy, grand scheme of gold selling... lol honestly get a fucking lifes. 

 

[mr. knowitall 0]

Just now, Fizzlestix said:

You are part of the problem, not the solution.

calling the community the problem is wrong as without the server would not exist, you cannot blame others for distrust towards something that has just been proven corrupt since that would really be a problem and fuel no-good or are you claiming the server can do no bad and deserves 100% blind trust even after corruption was found, they crumbled and have no solution to solving what occured along with a hasty recruitment of randoms seeming more desperate ?

[mr. knowitall 0]

1 minute ago, Morathe said:

I personally laugh at people that have this hardcore version of "question authority", marked with it like they were a cattle.

you realize the reason cattle can be raised so easily is due to lack of intelligence and it never rebels once placed in a cage ? not to question and blindly follow would be more accurate i think you should try learning a bit about the world as you appear to think of caddle as intelligent being able to "question".... also what authority do you speak of ? this is no more than a private server, a poor one who inherited their code they did not really do much themselves aside from advertise...

you need a life good sir but first some common knowledge ;)

Edited February 28, 2017 by mr. knowitall

[Morathe 5]

28 minutes ago, mr. knowitall said:

you realize the reason cattle can be raised so easily is due to lack of intelligence and it never rebels once placed in a cage ? not to question and blindly follow would be more accurate i think you should try learning a bit about the world as you appear to think of caddle as intelligent being able to "question".... also what authority do you speak of ? this is no more than a private server, a poor one who inherited their code they did not really do much themselves aside from advertise...

you need a life good sir but first some common knowledge ;)

What I ment as an allegory is that people go nuts for their QUESTION AUTHORITY agenda without realizing the topic and circumstances are highly irrelevant for that kind of fierce fight. Its like they were injected with a simple task - go and question everything, everywhere, to prove ur smart. I mean am I missing something here? Its just a fucking game. Don't make wars like its a fucking election cuz its foolish. I mean people are free to do whatever they want with their time, they are free to make wars if they find that enjoyable but its rly toxic for overall server well being and should be marginalized in my opinion.

P.S i do have a life :P wont tell u details cuz jealousy is a thing 

Edited February 28, 2017 by Morathe

[Fizzlestix 1]

26 minutes ago, mr. knowitall said:

calling the community the problem is wrong as without the server would not exist, you cannot blame others for distrust towards something that has just been proven corrupt since that would really be a problem and fuel no-good or are you claiming the server can do no bad and deserves 100% blind trust even after corruption was found, they crumbled and have no solution to solving what occured along with a hasty recruitment of randoms seeming more desperate ?

Please, use some common sense. I'm not referring to the community as a whole. 99% of the community don't give a damn about the forums or the drama on here. They are happy as long as they can log-in and as long as their in-game experience is sound.

As so often, it's the vocal minority that is driving the nails into the coffin. As said by many people before, the influence you have over the acts of the dev team are virtually zero. If they want to run this server as a money-making scheme then you won't be able to stop them. If they want to run the server in good faith then – again – you won't be able to stop them.

All you can do is tag along for the ride. If you don't like it, leave it. But stop pissing over something that you have zero control over and which other people are still enjoying. No one asked you to play here, so if you think it's such a terrible server, then leave. Do yourself a favour and don't waste your precious time with it. But ALSO do the rest of the community a favour and don't destroy something that has the chance to be great.

Or in short: stop acting as if you were the centre of the universe.

[mr. knowitall 0]

9 minutes ago, Morathe said:

What I ment as an allegory is that people go nuts for their QUESTION AUTHORITY agenda without realizing the topic and circumstances are highly irrelevant for that kind of fierce fight.

True however considering the servers age and that the code was inherited and then over hyped i see what they do as something that the server had due a long time ago. I had however hoped that they would handle it maturely by having the leader stand out instead of hide then call it an "investigation/spy" then below the table pay the goldsellers a sum or make an arrangement so they raise prices for a couple months then say you caught most of them however make certain you use vpn and fake id's in contact so they cannot use what you said against them and when the agreed time is up backstab them not giving them a cent and double efforts to watch out for them then and there as that is when they will angrily strike and you can catch most. That way you would have cleaned the servers name and made it a positive instead of negative and the logs could be recovered with a 7 layer scan to really catch some of them.

Once dirt is collected you cannot cry but dirt is needed as a temporary sponge to then discard later and that is the sad truth.

 

The server is young and inexperienced they bit off more than they could chew and now they need to sustain the shitstorm they conjured by not countering but hiding and asking for pity, they have closed and filtered many posts but that will only prolong the strom proving inexperience and players will during it test other servers and if elysium does not learn and grab the ship steering it right within the next months it will start taking water in which will cause it to sink in 1-2 years if they keep shoveling out water neglecting or filtering instead of solving it.

Just now, Fizzlestix said:

Or in short: stop acting as if you were the centre of the universe.

No worries that i never will or have done but i feel like setting a sheep straigth when it displays clear incompetence and rather than stating facts relies on saying the community is a problem or those who question are cattle and the rest should follow blindly otherwise they are no better than that cattle...

Edited February 28, 2017 by mr. knowitall

[Fizzlestix 1]

14 minutes ago, mr. knowitall said:

No worries that i never will or have done but i feel like setting a sheep straigth when it displays clear incompetence and rather than stating facts relies on saying the community is a problem or those who question are cattle and the rest should follow blindly otherwise they are no better than that cattle...

But that is exactly what you do.

No one needs you to set anything straight. We can all think for ourselves. Even the devs can think for themselves. And you "setting them straight" will do absolutely nothing to change their views or their behaviour. Because just like you, they are perfectly capable of autonomous thought.

The world isn't there to live up to your standards, no matter how much you are convinced of them being the only truth.

[mr. knowitall 0]

21 minutes ago, Fizzlestix said:

No one needs you to set anything straight. We can all think for ourselves. Even the devs can think for themselves.

as said you cannot sweep things below the rug that is just ignorant and something only a sheep with no tought or will of its own would.

you mention the devs thinking for themselves right ? why do you think they left... why did the ones remaining only lash at the community claiming to be a victim rather than think up solutions for what they had brought upon ? please start to use that head of yours... since when was Elysium the world ? since when where they anyones boss ? they host a server and with it comes responsibility of doing so if they cannot then that is all there was to it and they need to improve themselves if sheep just tell them dont worry then nothing happens and things worsen...

start giving some facts & reasons for your words or are you just here for the attention ?

[Fizzlestix 1]

1 hour ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

another sweep it under the rug justification for ignoring valid issues. sorry man, i wont do it. you are free to put me on ignore if you dont want to hear it and remain in your bubble.

Well argued, Sir. I see your nothing and raise you nothing.

 

1 hour ago, mr. knowitall said:

as said you cannot sweep things below the rug that is just ignorant and something only a sheep with no tought or will of its own would.

you mention the devs thinking for themselves right ? why do you think they left... why did the ones remaining only lash at the community claiming to be a victim rather than think up solutions for what they had brought upon ? please start to use that head of yours... since when was Elysium the world ? since when where they anyones boss ? they host a server and with it comes responsibility of doing so if they cannot then that is all there was to it and they need to improve themselves if sheep just tell them dont worry then nothing happens and things worsen...

start giving some facts & reasons for your words or are you just here for the attention ?

You are like Don Quichotte, fighting against enemies that only exist in your own head.

But,.. whatever,.. if it makes you happy, go on. I can only hope that the folks who run this server won't run out of reasons to put up with the childish crap people like you throw at them. Lords knows, I wouldn't bother.

1 hour ago, mr. knowitall said:

they host a server and with it comes responsibility of doing so

Sometimes I wonder who those people are who feel like they can decide what responsibilities other people have and have not. I wonder how you would react if someone came up to you and told you what to do with your spare time. Something tells me that you wouldn't react the way you expect the devs to react.

[flowqz 34]

why should you trust anyone of the devs or the staff? there is 0 reason to do that.

 

i just dont give a fuck about the drama, cause i cant change anything about it anyway (true or not) and i like the server.

[Morathe 5]

11 hours ago, Fizzlestix said:

Please, use some common sense. I'm not referring to the community as a whole. 99% of the community don't give a damn about the forums or the drama on here. They are happy as long as they can log-in and as long as their in-game experience is sound.

As so often, it's the vocal minority that is driving the nails into the coffin. As said by many people before, the influence you have over the acts of the dev team are virtually zero. If they want to run this server as a money-making scheme then you won't be able to stop them. If they want to run the server in good faith then – again – you won't be able to stop them.

All you can do is tag along for the ride. If you don't like it, leave it. But stop pissing over something that you have zero control over and which other people are still enjoying. No one asked you to play here, so if you think it's such a terrible server, then leave. Do yourself a favour and don't waste your precious time with it. But ALSO do the rest of the community a favour and don't destroy something that has the chance to be great.

Or in short: stop acting as if you were the centre of the universe.

Voice of reason +1. Apparently there is atleast one Canadian with too much spare time that made playing private servers a Holy Grail quest.