What is wrong with multiboxing?

[meridaw 11]

Multiboxing allows you to solo, or two man low level to max level 5mans, and some raids, or just fill up missing spots in raids. It makes it realy easy to farm high value items, like flasks and epic recipes, epic boe`s in mc, bijous/coins in zg, frostmaul e'ko in winterspring. You can level alts much faster by ungrouped lvl 60 mob tag, giving more kills per min on higher level elite mobs.

Edited March 11, 2017 by meridaw

[keck82 1]

multiboxing uses third party programms to press keys for you (you play one character and the programm plays the other characters) which is not allowed in games like this blizzard ofcourse allowed it for the moneyz

 

if they allow multiboxing they can also allow botting becouse its pretty much the same (a programm plays your character)

Edited March 11, 2017 by keck82

[Euronymous 2]

I find it extremely offputting and retarded to come across someone with 2-3 extra toons trailing behind them, one-shotting mobs and other players.

Most aspects of this game have been damaged by powergaming. I'd like to keep some of the novelty, even in 2017.

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On 3/11/2017 at 5:00 AM, keck82 said:

multiboxing uses third party programms to press keys for you (you play one character and the programm plays the other characters) which is not allowed in games like this blizzard ofcourse allowed it for the moneyz

 

if they allow multiboxing they can also allow botting becouse its pretty much the same (a programm plays your character)

Actually this is incorrect. Multiboxing software does not automate anything for you. For example yes it does forward key presses to other clients, but you have to press a key for it to do that. If I were boxing and press nothing (no input) then there would be no action (no output)

Botting is a program using scripting that automates things where you do not even have to touch your computer in order for it to perform actions.

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On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

Pretty much everything you said is incorrect because of your obvious bias.

Even if I were being biased, it would not determine of my statements were true or false. The statements themself would determine that.

On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

Lack of cash shop is irrelevant.

Yes, it is actually relevant. This is where my argument is actually for multiboxing not being allowed. As even with the small population increase, it would be a few people taking advantage of playing multiple accounts without increasing the funding for the servers. If there were a cash shop, however, then someone like myself could easily donate for 5 characters for whatever cosmetic thing to help support the increase in characters I used.

On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

There wouldn't be an explosion of characters but there obviously would be significantly more if it were allowed.

Your definition of significant must be skewed, as the server I am refering to that allows it, has a population cap of 12,000, and with all of the people that multiboxed regularly (online daily) it amounted to say an average of 20-30 characters. I am not sure if you are familiar with how to do math but say at the worst of 40 characters that would be 0.33% recurring. Not even 1% of the population.

On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

In wpvp you're generally turning a 1v1 into 1v5.  This is dumb.

From my personal experience, if it is allowed in pvp or world pvp, yes some boxers can be pricks and nuke someone. I personally would never attack a lone person when I was out questing unless they were just completely dumb and wouldn't stop trying to attack me. I would usually just CC them or heal whichever toon they were attacking and they would soon give up and leave. Regardless.... Any person playing 1 character that thinks they will engage 5 characters and win, well, they are not very bright, whether the 5 are controlled by separate people or by 1 person. Either way this could be addressed as Feenix did it and not allow PVP.  I personally wouldn't mind leaving my other 4 toons to stand there while I fought the guy attacking me if it were necessary.

On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

The number 1 problem with multi boxing is the inflation of the economy.  5 chars = 5x more gold.

I would like to know where you get your information from. Was there a survey or some statistics that show this information? Again you obviously did not read what I had posted about this. 5 characters still have to pay for mounts skills, professions, etc etc. Even though they can make more money questing (this is only because the money is controlled by one person, it's obviously the same amount as five individual players) they are still limited in other ways, as in I can't go farm in five different ways at one time, the best case would be killing a beast mob, skinning it, go over to mine a vein of ore with my miner and then maybe find an herb with my herbalist somewhere close as well. WOOHOO, ya that's not going to tilt the tides for anyone.

The only real advantage loot-wise would be 5 man dungeons with highly sought after items and being able to control all the loot, but it is still limited to the number of dungeons you can run in an hour. And I don't know about your get rich fantasies, but in reality it is hard enough just running the dungeons trying to gear five characters, much less just assuming I would be some chinese multiboxing farmer that has time for that, (no offense to the chinese, but you know what I meant)

Speaking of that also, don't you think if it was so lucrative to multiboxing that gold farmers would be doing that? (just a thought)

On 3/9/2017 at 10:18 AM, Hurricane2 said:

As far as liking to be self sufficient and helping others you can do all that just fine with 1 character.

I can't think of a single reason why multi boxing would be good for the community.

I would like to address both of these statements together. Say I am in Redridge questing and a couple guys need the elite quests but can't find a group. I replace my toons in the party with whatever roles those people can fill, this way I am helping people that couldn't get a whole group together. Do I have to do this? No, but I like to use my own advantages that I do have, to help others. Sure I can help with one character, but I would still be waiting just like them to fill out the group. So I guess I couldn't say it would be something gamechanging to help the community as a whole, but helpful to people that happen to be in areas I was at, friends, guild members, etc. I have even had people that knew who I was ask me for help with something out of the blue and if I had the time I would gladly help them out.

 

Regardless of my opinion, I have given examples and explanations for everything I have stated. So if you have anything legit to say that proves me wrong, I would love to hear it and actually welcome it.

 

I do not really post this stuff to create some sort of argument, or even to defend multiboxing. But I do like to correct people that make assumptions about what they are actually talking about but have no clue since they have no actual experience with it, especially not in the long term. And well, my own personal playstayle when I am playing somewhere that it is allowed is to be helpful, rather than to try and be a jerk to people. This is a community after all and people remember their interactions with you and it can have consequence in a good or bad way down the line. A few multiboxers in the past have given the playstyle a bad name as a whole, but that's just like being a racist because someone of one race did you wrong, or have hate towards people from a certain country or religion etc by judging them all by the actions of one or a few.

 

Anyways. I hope you can maybe understand a bit better from what I have explained than to make assumptions and have a bad taste in your mouth about it. Have a good day all :)

[Shiamorah 20]

This kind of argument does not even belong here. It is obvious multiboxing is directly against the rules because of malicious players that create accounts to sell, or accounts to spam gold. If multiboxing were allowed, we wouldn't just see 3 or 4 online at the same time, we would be seeing 10+ characters all on the same account, farming gold to sell for real money.

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1 minute ago, Shiamorah said:

This kind of argument does not even belong here. It is obvious multiboxing is directly against the rules because of malicious players that create accounts to sell, or accounts to spam gold. If multiboxing were allowed, we wouldn't just see 3 or 4 online at the same time, we would be seeing 10+ characters all on the same account, farming gold to sell for real money.

I have multiboxed on retail and some private servers for about 8 years now and never once been tempted to sell gold or characters. In fact I never had enough extra gold to sell if I wanted to. I would be bettering my own characters or help funding new alts. Now I have had people try to buy characters from me, more than once in the past. And I just straight up tell them I am not interested. I have invested all the time and effort into my toons, why would I want to get rid of them? People that multibox do not do it to make some sort of living from it, they do it because they enjoy it and its a new twist on an older game and presents new challenges.

Your statement is just silly lol.

[Shiamorah 20]

1 minute ago, Tanked said:

I have multiboxed on retail and some private servers for about 8 years now and never once been tempted to sell gold or characters. In fact I never had enough extra gold to sell if I wanted to. I would be bettering my own characters or help funding new alts. Now I have had people try to buy characters from me, more than once in the past. And I just straight up tell them I am not interested. I have invested all the time and effort into my toons, why would I want to get rid of them? People that multibox do not do it to make some sort of living from it, they do it because they enjoy it and its a new twist on an older game and presents new challenges.

Your statement is just silly lol.

I'm sorry, I can see you have an extremely biased view of rules like this. I am not talking about you. I am talking about the current rulebreakers on the server that the staff is already trying to deal with. Their problem would become tenfold if multiboxing were allowed.

[keck82 1]

6 hours ago, Tanked said:

Actually this is incorrect. Multiboxing software does not automate anything for you. For example yes it does forward key presses to other clients, but you have to press a key for it to do that. If I were boxing and press nothing (no input) then there would be no action (no output)

Botting is a program using scripting that automates things where you do not even have to touch your computer in order for it to perform actions.

oh it is totaly correct the programm plays all these characters for you

no programm no 10 characters you can compare it directly to botting its just another kind of programm which pushes the buttons for ya and that means case closed for me 10 characters just cant be played by one human so the programm has to be playing them there is no way around it

Edited March 13, 2017 by keck82

[gotmilk0112 10]

20 hours ago, keck82 said:

its just another kind of programm which pushes the buttons for ya

...but it requires player input in order to "push those buttons for you". So it is not completely automated. The key-broadcast program is not "playing the characters for you", you are still manually controlling them with your key presses.

 

Blizzard did not rule multiboxing programs as automation. They were perfectly legal, as long as "1 key press = 1 action", for all open WoW clients.

[Jakira 22]

Multiboxing is not allowed. Locking thread as it has already served its purpose.