rogue 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, killerduki said: When you donate to the server, you need to make sure your donation are given without refunding and not for sole purpose of screwing up the server. When server get donation , they should be aware that donations are given by free will , not a pure sole of payment for them to be angry, they should instead say thank you . The solution is Paypal and Terms of Use changing , so this kind of mistake doesn't happen twice! P.S server should also give live report for the Financial usage via PayPal donations. This will set things sorted and clear. /Kind regards Killerduki Thanks for reminding! Yes, all of these donations are basing on free-will. And, all of these donations have to be used for server running only. For the solution via PayPal, Most of Chinese players don't use it at all ( ONE CELLPHONE with WebChat or AliPay installed will be enough for anyone to live for months, without any cash, nor any credit card, ) . For "this kind of mistake doesn't happen twice" you mentioned: ---- Firstly, the "last event" raised up from some WebChat snapshots of some part of chats : (1). The Webchat channel was setup for Chinese players to donate for sever before Alipay was supported in forum entry. This webchat channel was for Chinese players only, and was for sever-donation only; (2). Some gold-selling/power-leveling studios acted as normal Chinese players and donated, then they were be able to join that WebChat channel; (3). Some gold-selling/power-leveling studio asked Valtaly through the Webchat public channel whether their dirty account could be un-banned if they donate some money; (4). Valtaly DID NOT want such stupid guys(gold-selling/power-leveling studio) disturbing him, and wanted himself out of such stupid intention or talking which was against the community, So he made an un-wise joke ---- he said a number and hoped the number would help to scare those gold-selling/power-leveling studios away. Above all, Valtaly DO NOT have any authority/access to overwhelm anything upon the management group. (5). Those gold-selling/power-leveling studios took snapshots of special sections of the talking, and put those snapshots into community and spread the drama what we have known. ----- You have to note that's just a portion of the whole talking record. They did it in such way to make it like the "un-ban with money" drama. (6). Shenna had pointed/proven that Valtaly DIDN"T sell one god at all! (7). Some Devs of other community had been tricked by Alex somehow. (8). That's what I can get from public info up till now. (9). Reasonable evidences would be helpful to support any suspicions. ---- Secondly, GM helped Chinese players to get rid of the Financial tools limitation and publish all donation for public. We trust the GM, we trust the management. We DO NOT want to be the victims of these rumors. We DO NOT want to be unknowing accomplices in the attackers/rumor spreaders who had hurt both the community and the sever. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainie 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 wonder why Elysium PvP is offline but still can play wish anathema is the same. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11eric11 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 every player should get a reward and the war effort mats should decrease or something bcs we havent be able to be playing for 24 hours soon, well ur doin good job elysium and keep it up! keep going so we can start playing soon hopefuly 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mellial 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Donated. Where is my server?) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mytchi3 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, rogue said: Thanks for reminding! Yes, all of these donations are basing on free-will. And, all of these donations have to be used for server running only. For the solution via PayPal, Most of Chinese players don't use it at all ( ONE CELLPHONE with WebChat or AliPay installed will be enough for anyone to live for months, without any cash, nor any credit card, ) . For "this kind of mistake doesn't happen twice" you mentioned: ---- Firstly, the "last event" raised up from some WebChat snapshots of some part of chats : (1). The Webchat channel was setup for Chinese players to donate for sever before Alipay was supported in forum entry. This webchat channel was for Chinese players only, and was for sever-donation only; (2). Some gold-selling/power-leveling studios acted as normal Chinese players and donated, then they were be able to join that WebChat channel; (3). Some gold-selling/power-leveling studio asked Valtaly through the Webchat public channel whether their dirty account could be un-banned if they donate some money; (4). Valtaly DID NOT want such stupid guys(gold-selling/power-leveling studio) disturbing him, and wanted himself out of such stupid intention or talking which was against the community, So he made an un-wise joke ---- he said a number and hoped the number would help to scare those gold-selling/power-leveling studios away. Above all, Valtaly DO NOT have any authority/access to overwhelm anything upon the management group. (5). Those gold-selling/power-leveling studios took snapshots of special sections of the talking, and put those snapshots into community and spread the drama what we have known. ----- You have to note that's just a portion of the whole talking record. They did it in such way to make it like the "un-ban with money" drama. (6). Shenna had pointed/proven that Valtaly DIDN"T sell one god at all! (7). Some Devs of other community had been tricked by Alex somehow. (8). That's what I can get from public info up till now. (9). Reasonable evidences would be helpful to support any suspicions. ---- Secondly, GM helped Chinese players to get rid of the Financial tools limitation and publish all donation for public. We trust the GM, we trust the management. We DO NOT want to be the victims of these rumors. We DO NOT want to be unknowing accomplices in the attackers/rumor spreaders who had hurt both the community and the sever. NAME IS V I TA L I Y ! ! ! holy fuck you are annoying and speak for yoursef you self proclaimed speaker of the free world. Case has been closed and overtalked. Edited March 14, 2017 by mytchi3 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zirathsia 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 When i get back from the dentist i expect the servers to be up, we cant have it this way when horde gets no judgment or not even getting defiled by me att all..... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogue 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, 11eric11 said: every player should get a reward and the war effort mats should decrease or something bcs we havent be able to be playing for 24 hours soon, well ur doin good job elysium and keep it up! keep going so we can start playing soon hopefuly That's different! players donate what they can/will to help the sever getting rid of the shutting-down trouble, that DOES NOT mean those donators have extra rights to ask sever management to change those strategies which had been approved/implemented just to make those donators more happy ...... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reiga 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Still no news from admins ? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogue 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, mytchi3 said: NAME IS V I TA L I Y ! ! ! holy fuck you are annoying and speak for yoursef you self proclaimed speaker of the free world. Case has been closed and overtalked. 1. In fact, I've checked the name ...... Hm, but it's still a typo. But the important thing is the affair, not the name. 2. "speak for yoursef you self proclaimed speaker of the free world." ...... I know what the Webchat snapshots means more than what you thought. 3. "Case has been closed and overtalked." ....... case was overtalked indeed. It won't be mentioned here if someone didn't talk about the lesson of this drama in my post. 4. "holy fuck you are annoying" ....... where do u come from, man? I think neither your parents taught you speaking in such a way, nor your culture. Be more polite man, that's a forum only 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Makonha 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I Bet everyone, in less than 24 hours Anathema go down again and 10 min after that goes down again and so on. Then we look at others server and we see 5 or more days online, so pls open transfer and close anathema (since your hate anathema because its Nostaurius legacy) and save money to several months to others servers payment, its fair with us. if its happen ("transfer") i donate by myself, i dont want be in crappy server and see others playing and i just being angry and caustic at forum. Edited March 14, 2017 by Makonha 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akafortey 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 I just sent over some money I had. The system of one-person direct payment is absolutely absurd to be honest and always was, it was completely naive to think that it would work if you did believe it. Crowd-sourcing the money is the way to go for this. Hope this will stick in the future. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rogue 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Akafortey said: I just sent over some money I had. The system of one-person direct payment is absolutely absurd to be honest and always was, it was completely naive to think that it would work if you did believe it. Crowd-sourcing the money is the way to go for this. Hope this will stick in the future. Yes. that's a temporarily solution when we didn't find others entries to resolve the hard shutting-down trouble, it has the risk indeed. Hope we can get better donation entries later. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cephissus 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Chinese players can't through paypal donations, can study through alipay ,I've tested 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbloke 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 15€ Donation complete! Now get this Server up guys! Or atleast drop some news! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reiga 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Some news would be appreciated 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reiga 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Seeing no feedback from the admins still 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calliall 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Donated 50 euros. Would be nice to get an update if possible. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blabla123 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 2 минуты назад, MurderMuffin сказал: ahahahaha this guy is the shit .... HERE's my money woman NOW GIVE me respect ..... AHAHAHAHAH lol 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forzakeny 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Gieef new update slackers,and show Jawhol some respect ! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amberwaal 5 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Guys, please keep it civil. Be patient while the admins are fixing this for us! Start an alt on one of the other realms in the meantime if you are suffering from withdrawal ;) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chase_le_mofo 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 RIP PVP players 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marwat 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Donated 10€ !! Keep the good work up guys, I'll never lose faith in your ability to script this server until Naxx !!! (pls lower war effort requirements, i'd like to start raiding AQ40 before summer holidays :P) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrsnappi 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ambervale said: Guys, please keep it civil. Be patient while the admins are fixing this for us! Start an alt on one of the other realms in the meantime if you are suffering from withdrawal ;) Totally agree, 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ickus 40 Report post Posted March 14, 2017 Ya let's focus all of our hate on Maitoz and his band of hot pocket eating diabetic, basement dwelling, unemployed bums. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites