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The world is a big place, many do not have smartphone for 2FA for either personal or financial reasons. Inclusiveness is far more important than sheer security when the security ideally isn't needed.

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Would you kindly provide phones and regular payments for all ~40k of accounts out there before making such bald suggestions?

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1 hour ago, Darksyn said:

The world is a big place, many do not have smartphone for 2FA for either personal or financial reasons. Inclusiveness is far more important than sheer security when the security ideally isn't needed.

100% Correctly said, also 2FA i find it more Abused than not using it , you can get easy hacked thru it .

/Kind regards Killerduki

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1 hour ago, Darksyn said:

The world is a big place, many do not have smartphone for 2FA for either personal or financial reasons. Inclusiveness is far more important than sheer security when the security ideally isn't needed.

If you can play wow, you can put an authenticator on your computer. Bullshit that you need a smartphone for it.

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Bullguano is that you need toofa while you can just play WoW and don't even bother.

Edited by Jorn Skyseer

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You don't need 2FA to not get hacked. Use a unique user name and good password on both your email account and your ingame account. You will not get hacked.

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5 hours ago, smokeit said:

If you can play wow, you can put an authenticator on your computer. Bullshit that you need a smartphone for it.

This is true, but a big part of 2FA is the part where if your computer is compromised, the hacker would also need access to a 2nd device to authenticate to your account.

Anyway, I disagree with the notion of requiring 2FA for all accounts.

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On 3/14/2017 at 3:33 AM, Sarrowind said:

Currently on my phone or I would elaborate further now, but will later.

Actually, isn't this almost too obvious?

could you elaborate on why this is so obvious and important that everyone HAS to do it rather then everyone has a choice?

 

12 hours ago, Darksyn said:

The world is a big place, many do not have smartphone for 2FA for either personal or financial reasons. Inclusiveness is far more important than sheer security when the security ideally isn't needed.

Well said, I completely agree

Edited by JCarrill0

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On 3/24/2017 at 9:47 AM, smokeit said:

If you can play wow, you can put an authenticator on your computer. Bullshit that you need a smartphone for it.

Correct, if you have a computer to play wow, you can install the authenticator on it. AND if you have a gmail account, you have access to the authenticator from any computer, thus making the reliance on smartphones or any other mobile device a moot point. So I'm still waiting a reason NOT to make them mandatory as it only requires an IQ above room temperature to use.

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I could've asked for mandatory closure of all threads of this kind. Good thing I haven't.

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13 hours ago, Sarrowind said:

Correct, if you have a computer to play wow, you can install the authenticator on it. AND if you have a gmail account, you have access to the authenticator from any computer, thus making the reliance on smartphones or any other mobile device a moot point. So I'm still waiting a reason NOT to make them mandatory as it only requires an IQ above room temperature to use.

Here are reasons for you :

1- When you fail to login 3 times using authenticator , you are automatically eating temporary ban.

2- When there are problems with OVH , then your authenticator will not work and you won't be able to play this game.

3- You can easier get compromised and hacked thru authenticator rather than using normal account.

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited by killerduki

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On 3/24/2017 at 1:05 PM, Darksyn said:

The world is a big place, many do not have smartphone for 2FA for either personal or financial reasons. Inclusiveness is far more important than sheer security when the security ideally isn't needed.

Then use the desktop app -.-

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49 minutes ago, Justme said:

Then use the desktop app -.-

What if I play on a potato? Can a potato run the authenticator?

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8 minutes ago, Storfan said:

What if I play on a potato? Can a potato run the authenticator?

If you can't afford anything better then you're not likely to donate so you might aswell leave this PS

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16 hours ago, Sarrowind said:

...I'm still waiting a reason NOT to make them mandatory as it only requires an IQ above room temperature to use.

Actually we're still waiting for you to tell us why this should be so. All you've done is shift the burden of proof... and, well, thrown in some ad hominem for dramatic effect, of course!

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1 hour ago, Storfan said:

What if I play on a potato? Can a potato run the authenticator?

That was a nice question , not everyone are born in west where you can get paid over 500 ++++ -Euros to buy new PC.

The world is not EU and USA only. Neither EU is "West" only .

Why they live in delusional world is because :

map-of-the-world-according-to-americans.

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited by killerduki

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Upvoted paladin for uninhabited lands. And downvoted myself for upvoting a paladin.

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If you make it mandatory, then you are going to have the Help forum flooded with people looking for advice.

Yesterday, I used the Admin account on my computer to log into vanilla instead of the day-to-day account I use on that computer and it was a pain in the ass to get started. It's the same IP address and computer but that didn't make things easy, I had to dig out the email from my g-mail account to get things going.

I set it up to only need to use Winauth when I log in from a different IP address, but no I have to use it every time even thouigh it's the same computer everytime and it doesn't move location.

I'll be getting a new computer soon, so I'm going to have to log-in from  that one, which may not be straight forward.

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due to yesterday's issues with OVH and Elysium setting up the Anathema EU proxy, it completely fubar'd my 2FA and I ended up eating a temp ban

 

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If you can afford a computer, model at least circa 2004, you can install and run WoW. If you can afford internet, you can play said WoW. If you have both, you can run and play WoW. Where is there a valid excuse in that equation to not use 2FA that is accessible from a computer with internet?

These message boards are rife with complaints about accounts being "hacked", which is poor terminology to use. Hacking is a little more sophisticated than using the same password for everything and someone discovering it and then abusing it.

If you get compromised and don't have 2FA, then it is your fault and find somewhere to cry, such as your local bar, strip club, etc. The devs have more important things to work on and have provided a means to further secure YOUR account.

If you're not using it, I anticipate your post in the help and support section. Where you will receive neither help nor support and will be trolled for stupidity.

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On 3/28/2017 at 3:39 PM, Theloras said:

due to yesterday's issues with OVH and Elysium setting up the Anathema EU proxy, it completely fubar'd my 2FA and I ended up eating a temp ban

 

Nothing is perfect. I'd rather eat a temp ban instead of a naked 60(s) with no gold.

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On 3/28/2017 at 5:18 AM, killerduki said:

3- You can easier get compromised and hacked thru authenticator rather than using normal account.

Source?

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