arjen1184 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Hello first, my english is very bad, so I need a translator. I was banned since I should have bought gold, they say! I have a lot of many hours of training and leveled (level 57, since release) quite a lot in the ah sold and bought. In the last 1-2 days I made good 100-200g. Now you ask yourself, if you play since release then you must already be 60ig. Since I always have so much farmed / grinde and skilled my (minning/blacksmith)professions, I let myself time for that. Now I get a ban and would be welcome to make a new account. I would be stupid if I risk something like this after so many days weeks of weeks. But what I do not. You rob me so many weeks of days and now how will i trust you? Who told me that you do not do it again? I do not know if someone ever expressed himself because the same happened to him But I wonder how many have been wrongly banished. Feel free to discuss and express your open mind. I would like to apologize for the mistakes and wrong sentence composition. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firebrand 3 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Ding dong bannu. Go to bann appeals. If it was for buying gold they are sure for it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sknnbones 2 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 If you are saying you got banned falsely, go post an appeal. If you are asking if your new account will be banned, no; not unless you break the rules again. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 Oh look, yet another person that got caught buying gold, now coming to the forums crying for sympathy and claiming they were banned for no reason. GMs don't just blindly ban people for having gold. They track gold sellers and see where the gold is being transferred to. If you don't buy gold, you won't get banned. I've got almost 500g now and I'm not banned. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morphic 2 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) In 193x one european leader didcided to "fix" situation with people using buses withot buying a ticket, in a radical way, soldiers just checked for tickets an if you had no ticked they would just shoot you in place, the unfun part was that almost half people on that day havent shown tickets just becose they was too shocked by what soldiers did, later on that was called fashism. That is exactly what GM here do, they are unable to fight goldsellers, so instead they just ban people who actually play, without warning, without first timed ban and somekind of rollback, they just shoot thoose people months of playtime in the head. Buying gold is bad, but someone who played for long time, invested his time and made a mistake deserves a warning, instead of that, even in appeal, they just say "there is evidence u bought gold and close the topic" what evidence ? when ? no ansfers. And dont get me wrong, its their server, we dont pay for it, they dont have to ansfer if they dont want to, but they say "appeals is to proove we are only human". You are not, you dont act like human, you just shoot that account exactly like shown in example in the beginning of the post with no chance for the person who's time you just evapurated to even say a thing. Then what makes you different from the soldiers in the example ? i personally dont see a difference at all, except its just a computer game. Edited March 18, 2017 by morphic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrathran 4 Report post Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Quote they are unable to fight goldsellers, so instead they just ban people who actually play, without warning, without first timed ban and somekind of rollback Only reason there are goldspam, hacked accounts, and goldseller are because people BUY GOLD! The only bad guys here are the idiots who buy stolen gold. If people didn't pay money to these professional hackers, botters and spammers, we would not have hackers, botters and spammers. If you buy gold you account should be perma banned. No question about that in my mind. There should ofc be a way to appeal a ban as humans and automated system can make mistakes and ban an innocent player. But no sympathy from me to people who actually buy gold and get banned. Quote Buying gold is bad, but someone who played for long time, invested his time and made a mistake deserves a warning No they don't. Why the hell do you think they "DESERVE" a warning when they FUND hackers, botters and spammers with IRL money? No, you are WRONG. Maybe if you break some in-game rule you could deserve a warning, but funding thieves and buying other players stolen gold should always be a perma-ban. Because that is what these idiots are doing who buy gold; They are paying thieves to steal other players accounts. Those players who get hacked did not deserve that, but you think the players who pay for it deserve a second chance? No, just no. Quote Then what makes you different from the soldiers in the example ? i personally dont see a difference at all, except its just a computer game. Well then you are an idiot sir. If you can't see any difference between murdering people on a buss and banning free accounts that pay money to hackers to steal other players account and send them stolen gold. People who buy gold is indirectly paying money for hackers to steal other players accounts. People who buy gold is indirectly paying money for botters to swarm the server with bots and ruining the in-game market. People who buy gold is indirectly paying money for spammers to spam players in-game and ruining the gaming experience. People who buy gold ruin the game and should be banned. Edited March 19, 2017 by Wrathran 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morphic 2 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 26 минут назад, Wrathran сказал: Well then you are an idiot sir. If you can't see any difference between murdering people on a buss and banning free accounts that break the clear and fair rules on an unofficial wow server. Smal, big, same parallel, i dont know you and your opinion about my intelegence is irrelevant for me. Does gold buyers deserves a ban ? yes! But even Blizzard never fell that low and shoot its own playerbase in the head without warnings. since the start of time, when there is offer there will be a buyer, there is allways people who have more money then time and they will use it to their advantage, if they they want to limit playerbase to extremely moral moneyless kids its their right. Mature person can acept punishment for doing something against the rules, there is no problem with that, threating people like trash is anacceptable. If i will buy gold, i will have no problem if i loose anything i bought with that gold and even more, and its what blizzard allways did, but bunning account ? for what ? what exactly does they win with this action ? "we bunned 504 accounts that bought gold" good, now that server has 504 less people that will not play here, go on ban 1000 more, lets see how low u can get. Seen today someone asked for merge, so yeah banning works, be lethal in your punishments and maybe not soon but you will feel lonely... Edited March 19, 2017 by morphic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrathran 4 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Quote If i will buy gold, i will have no problem if i loose anything i bought with that gold and even more, and its what blizzard allways did, but bunning account ? for what ? You don't seem to grasp the concept that people who buy gold is paying hackers money to steal other innocent players accounts. That's where the gold comes from. Those people do not deserve a warning. Edited March 19, 2017 by Wrathran 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morphic 2 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 1 час назад, Wrathran сказал: You don't seem to grasp the concept that people who buy gold is paying hackers money to steal other innocent players accounts. That's where the gold comes from. Those people do not deserve a warning. That is totally wrong, innocent people can come up with a password better then "qwerty12345", there is 2f auth active, they have all the tools to not get hacked, they maybe innocent, but totally guilty with not being careful with important information and therefor they can and will get hacked. You totally miss the point that its business, illigal? yes! but its doesnt stop them and never will, and never did. Do you realy think that banning everyone on sight will solve the problem HUGE company with unlimited resources couldnt solve in 12 years? By rolling back that account they would teach person a lesson of loosing money for nothing, by banning that account they lower the playerbase and punish you, the good player with less people to group with, play with. I am not saying that they need to do rollbacks to eternity, but a first warning would show that person that its not going to work on our server, from then he can dicide if he wants to risk again and get banned, or to undarstand that he cant do that and play like others. That approach would leave more players and heathier gameplay, its also called human attitude. And btw, its free, but they do want to attract people and they do want to keep them playing, we dont have to pay, but they do ask for donations for maintance. It makes it a bisiness model becose if we all loose interest in the server it will go away so its dependant on its playerbase, want its or not but if someone wants YOU to come to HIS place and spend your time there (and optionaly donate real money) - it makes you a potential customer! You dont throw away potential customers that fast, otherwise its broken business model and thoose fail. P.S. I never said that anyone should get away with buying gold, they should be punished, not by throwing them away, but by explaining them that its not only in the rules but also in the field, if they dont undarstand then throw them away, fine. But if there is someone who bought 200g to lvl enchanting he should loose this, but not the 57 lvls he actually lvled himself for 4 month (do you actualy believe he will do that again after this?), unless he repeat the violation. Edited March 19, 2017 by morphic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Gold buyers are literally contributing to spam, bots, and account hackings. And you want them to just get a slap on the wrist? lol Being ignorant to the server's rules is not a defense. You break the rules, you get banned. They already get a slap on the wrist because even if they get banned for buying gold, they're still free to create a new account and keep playing. Most other servers would IP ban you for buying gold. stop defending gold trafficking, you dingus. Edited March 19, 2017 by gotmilk0112 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrathran 4 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 Quote Do you realy think that banning everyone on sight will solve the problem Yes indeed I do. If they would have a warning first this could only lead to one thing. More people will buy gold because everyone would know you will always get a warning first. Buy all the gold you want, first you get a warning, so your account is safe. BAD IDEA. No! Ban them all! And if they have more than one account, ban those also and if they make a new account, wait 3 month and then ban that to! spamfunders aka goldbuyers have no sympathy from me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revo 34 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 ban gold sellers and buyers right away. cant ban them fast enough. no mercy, zero tolerance. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JunkShop 1 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Start a new account or go away gold buyer. You are part of the reason our mailboxes are full of spam, you are part of the reason our chat is full of spam. Kronos has just announced that anyone caught buying gold will have ALL of their accounts banned indefinitely. I like this idea, I wouldn't let gold buyers start a new account at all. They (you) cannot be trusted. Here's a question. Did you know that buying gold was against the rules? If the answer is yes and you did it anyway, then you deserve your ban. If the answer is no then you should've read the rules and deserve your ban. Edited March 19, 2017 by JunkShop 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morphic 2 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 Like i said, i just dont see difference between you and the said example, zero tolerance :) seen that millions of times in ex work, people behavior doesnt change at all... While you feel safe - you want to see blood, when its yours its whole different story... Unfortinatly there is noone to have constructive dialog with, so i will gladly leave you alone. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KromKrush 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 So it wasn't a wrongful ban OP is just mad he bought gold and wasn't given a couple warning that buying gold is bad and will forgivem this time around but dont do it again..lul ur account is toasted dont buy gold man they track gold being moved around more than NSA tracks Americans privacy.. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JunkShop 1 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 4 hours ago, morphic said: Like i said, i just dont see difference between you and the said example, zero tolerance :) seen that millions of times in ex work, people behavior doesnt change at all... While you feel safe - you want to see blood, when its yours its whole different story... Unfortinatly there is noone to have constructive dialog with, so i will gladly leave you alone. It won't ever be my blood because I don't buy gold. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keck82 1 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 if they say you bought gold you bought gold i didnt bought gold and i got unbanned after ban appeal 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
