FUTURE PLAN: Absorb Zeth'Kur Into ALL THREE REALMS! (Not Just Merge To Elysium)

[Dizeliun 0]

Now I'm going to tell you how to fix population across all fronts. But this is only that. A population fix. There are pros and cons to every decision. At some point we all agree Zethkur needs to be merged somehow or else face extinction. Even if Zethkur were to dip to 300 players hypothetically, if given the option I'm about to relay to you, I personally think you will see a large amount of people who left return. 

 

ALLOW TRANSFERS FROM ZETHKUR -> ANY OTHER REALM

 

The only con I see is ruining economies, but lets see how "bad" it could be ruined starting with Anathema.

Anathema is progressing through their Wareffort, they have been farming mats for years and the economy has already seen a huge hiccup when all of the hacking took place with millions of artificial gold being flooded into the economy. Adding a few more stockpiled items to an already seasoned server may fluxuate markets for a week or two but in the end will recieve roughly the same price point after that.

Darrowshire, since darrow is pve mat prices are already cheaper than pvp realms due to an easier farm time without ganking or faction fighting. Thus a stockpile of items wouldn't be the best idea since you would be practically halving your gold by stockpiling resources. Expect zethkur transfers to darrow to bring their wealth in the form of gold, the economy would actually see a boost of demand due to zethkur adding wealth to a much needed market!

Elysium, the market at elysium is already so overly saturated that no type of stockpile will be able to effect it for over a week. The population is so massive any supply will be bought easily within a week if sold properly.

 

Allowing the merge to be with ALL REALMS is the key

• allows people who want a big server to go to Elysium
• Who want the most progressed server (maybe tired of farming MC all day) to go to Anathema
• And the people who thought maybe the PVP thing isn't for them to go to Darrowshire
• Win-win, all realms get pop boost and the crippling realm gets absorbed into a community of their choosing.

 

Message to Elysium Staff:

Your community has been speaking for the last few MONTHS on this issue because we've seen it happen on multiple realms or games we've all played on. If you remain to ignore the issue then I'm telling you for 95% certainty that Zethkur will be under 500 players before BWL launches (EDIT: It's already happening...).

OR

you can act on this and be able to retain and even possibly GAIN BACK recently lost players who now have a second chance to play on a realm of their choice with how they actually want to play.

 

DISCLAIMER:

I do not play on Zeth, I just dislike watching server devs kill their own project because they are apathetic or ignorant to the situations they CHOOSE to ignore. Please post below telling me if you think my idea will work or if you might have found a loophole in my thinking so we can design the best strategy possible for Elysium to move forward with this plan. Thank you all.

PS

To the morons who don't want the merger, go buy an account on kronos... I hear they got a low population for you to play on.

[Guest]

It's common knowledge: to fix something you must hit it multiple times with a wrench.

So, you suggest we fix the population, ok...

Edited March 28, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Dizeliun 0]

I'm just saying that when a server is left to slowly die out, it is in the best interest to allow transfers off said server especially when you have 3 other servers who could use a boost.

[Guest]

Your point of view is respected, but is wrong, I'm afraid.

Best interest is excellent material for paving one specific road.

[Dizeliun 0]

Whats with the weird analogies? Are you hinting at merging it into Elysium fully? or all servers into one? I don't understand your wording

[Guest]

Won't answer you right now, to allow other posters to come and suggest you add me into your ignore list :) And other bright ideas.

[Owondyah 8]

i won't even read what you wrote and I already know the answer. Let me show you how to fix something that's not broken at all, but you still want to make it better.

It's most obvious shit your pretty puppy eyes are failing to see. It's common sense unveiled in front of you in all it's majestic fucking glory:

Answer lies just click away:

 

STOP FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT IT!

Edited March 28, 2017 by Owondyah

[Dizeliun 0]

50 minutes ago, Owondyah said:

i won't even read what you wrote and I already know the answer. Let me show you how to fix something that's not broken at all, but you still want to make it better.

It's most obvious shit your pretty puppy eyes are failing to see. It's common sense unveiled in front of you in all it's majestic fucking glory:

Answer lies just click away:

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STOP FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT IT!

When the servers dead then you will come back and aplogize to me because you fail to see the future outcome of this server. You must be new to the private server scene. 

[Banezilla 2]

Add Jorn to your ignore list.

[TheRealJindo 1]

Saying Elysium economy is oversaturated and that this merge would only have a lasting impact of 1 week on it shows how ignorant you really are. Let's see. Almost 3 months of uptime, black lotuses farmed in that time let's say 2 months of uptime of black lotus farm. 5 per hour, 24 hours per day, 30 days per month, 2 months brings us to 5*24*30*2=7200 black lotuses. These will all be made into flasks and then sold on the AH, because if you think that the ZK people have been mass using flasks, you're wrong. And this is just 1 example.

[Bosshello 0]

I would love to see Elysium making it possible to transfer to all the servers.  

As OP have said, the realm Elysium is already well populated - at the same time it is equally progressed with ZK. So if there are some people who don't really care about the progression, but think the Elysium is too populated, they will have the possiblity to join Anathema. If more people join Anathema, there will be a greater population balance, then if they are only letting people to transfer to Elysium (because of progression). 

I know that most people choose a pvp once, then stick to it. Still I think there will be those who join the pve realm, even tho they are coming for an pvp realm. Still making it possible even tho it is two diffrent realms - I think it will be a great idea to just give the pve realm just some more people.

[Spliffrichard 0]

Best solution.

[Justinius 0]

On 29-3-2017 at 7:26 AM, TheRealJindo said:

Saying Elysium economy is oversaturated and that this merge would only have a lasting impact of 1 week on it shows how ignorant you really are. Let's see. Almost 3 months of uptime, black lotuses farmed in that time let's say 2 months of uptime of black lotus farm. 5 per hour, 24 hours per day, 30 days per month, 2 months brings us to 5*24*30*2=7200 black lotuses. These will all be made into flasks and then sold on the AH, because if you think that the ZK people have been mass using flasks, you're wrong. And this is just 1 example.

I support this post 100%

 

Currently have 17 BL in my bank.

[smokeit 26]

Please allow my ZK character to transfer over to Anathema please? If the idiotic merger happens. Game is ruined if we get merged with elysium.

[Dizeliun 0]

16 hours ago, Justinius said:

I support this post 100%

 

Currently have 17 BL in my bank.

There is three options you can take...

1. Allow transfers and let ZethKur keep their stockpiles

2. Allow transfers yet clear character banks of any tradable items

3. Don't allow transfers and let people stay on their dead server till its gone and nobody rerolls to level to 60 all over again essentially losing ~5k people

[TheRealJindo 1]

Elysium people don't want 1, and ZK people are too entitled to agree to 2. And 3 is obviously the last thing people want.

[Undertanker 88]

Just pointing out, that admin lack of action when in need is what destroyed Wildstar.   17 realms cause of hype and then people didn't have enough people to play with.    They refused to address the community pleading for merges, and by the time they did, nobody was left.

[Dizeliun 0]

On 4/1/2017 at 9:40 PM, Undertanker said:

Just pointing out, that admin lack of action when in need is what destroyed Wildstar.   17 realms cause of hype and then people didn't have enough people to play with.    They refused to address the community pleading for merges, and by the time they did, nobody was left.

Same as BNS (Blade&Soul) they actually allowed for faction transfers so every server would eventually end up one sided causing it to crumble since it was faction based PVP oriented.

[Justinius 0]

On 28-3-2017 at 5:04 PM, Dizeliun said:

 

PS

To the morons who don't want the merger, go buy an account on kronos... I hear they got a low population for you to play on.

PS to the people who don't want to play on Zeth'Kur, go roll on Elysium...I hear they have a high population for you to play with.

 

By the way, please elaborate on your statistics. 95% sure? How?

Edited April 5, 2017 by Justinius

[DPS 6]

I like this idea.

[Dizeliun 0]

9 hours ago, Justinius said:

PS to the people who don't want to play on Zeth'Kur, go roll on Elysium...I hear they have a high population for you to play with.

 

By the way, please elaborate on your statistics. 95% sure? How?

Having an engineering degree that include classes such as logical reasoning, probability and statistics, and dataset analysis usually helps guide my thought process. 

[Hurricane2 2]

 

48 minutes ago, Dizeliun said:

Having an engineering degree that include classes such as logical reasoning, probability and statistics, and dataset analysis usually helps guide my thought process. 

Then how do your posts in regard to the zeth merge have such a lack of logic and reasoning?

[Ickus 40]

I like this idea

[nova.raveheart 1]

Again, if you don't want to play on Zeth, roll on another realms. Zeth is:

a) Doing good so far. Insignificant population decrease is normal for relatively fresh realms - some people tend to register, play a bit and turn back to their old realms;

b) Far more populated than many other Classic servers seen by me. 500 low is "dead"? No. 300 peak (and 200 of them are lvl60) is "dead".

Edited April 5, 2017 by nova.raveheart

[Decoy 0]

TL:DR: I'm a NA Zeth'kur player and I agree 100% with this post. A merge is needed, and needed soon <3

Thanks for the post. We need something to happen soon.  We're giving people more and more time to farm materials which can be seen as one of the downsides of the merge.  The people who initially brought up the population issues are no longer posting - they are leaving.  Personally I don't care about materials or farming or being broke, I just want to play Vanilla WoW with everyone else. I get excited to see new content and patches coming, but I feel like ZK has been left out.  We were even singled out as being on the "PS2" server in the April fools gig - cool.  Zeth'kur players were to thank for the play-ability of Elysium when we launched, we took the pressure and the que away from the Elysium folks, and now the community should back us up when we need it.  Gondor calls for aid

Those against the merge on ZK, think about the upcoming Alterac Valley patch, we won't be able to get these going that often with our current population. Also, those against the merge, think about the potential players that are quitting Vanilla WoW.  I don't want to lose a single player on any realm, because it's all of us playing together that makes it fun.  We are a community (and we need to be united).  Those of you saying QQ just re-roll, I did re-rolled, but my 4 irl friends have not re-rolled because we've done it several times on private servers and we all have jobs/kids/irl and can't do the 1-60 again in such a short time - I'm sure many are in a similar situation

I have stopped playing on all accounts until I know where to spend my time. I had two 8/8 Tier2 officer characters on Rebirth WoW (another 1.12 1x Vanilla Realm) that just went under due to population.  I've been feeling the same decline on Zeth'kur since February and hope that action is taken soon.  I'll be ready for the merge, with donations in hand.  Until then you have a hardcore, dedicated vanilla player /sleeping in the halls of Undercity - I don't know why the Elysium Team hasn't already merged it so we would all just STFU and play and enjoy the great project they've put together

 

Decoy, Undead Warrior