killerduki 54 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 I've been spoken with @Jakira regarding this issue when someone posted abusing in reddit by Grizzly. I promised that i will release info from Blizzard Archives as evidence for their policy against World Bosses griefing policy. https://web.archive.org/web/20060529065701/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=blizzard-archive&t=27&p=1&tmp=1#post27 May 29 2006 The introduction of Outdoor Raid Encounters in the most recent patch has added an entirely new dimension to the World of Warcraft. Players are now allowed to participate in high-end content without the time investment necessary to hack ones way to the bottom of the dankest dungeons. The addition of these encounters opens up new game dynamics, both good and bad. While we do not wish to detract from the positive aspects of these encounters, we feel it necessary to address certain negative aspects to preserve the gameplay experience for all. In contrast to Outdoor Raid Encounters, dungeons have been created as instances to allow multiple groups of players to participate in difficult encounters simultaneously and without being hindered by the actions of other like-minded players. Outdoor raid encounters have no such allowances and as such, open themselves up to instances of player collision. An example of this player collision can be seen with one of the Outdoor Raid bosses, Lord Kazzak. While we expect a certain amount of competition for such high-end creeps, some players have been abusing Kazzaks special abilities with the specific intent to harass other players. At this time, our In-Game Support Staff (Game Masters) will be taking action against players who do not allow other groups to combat Lord Kazzak as intended by the Development Team. Below are some examples of what we will and will not be taking action against. These examples are broken down by PVP (Player vs. Player) and PVE (Player vs. Environment), as the differing rulesets affect our stance. Keep in mind that these are extreme situations used to clearly illustrate what we do and do not find acceptable. Not all instances will be as cut-and-dry as those listed below. Game Master discretion will be used in grey-area occurrences.PVE Ruleset - When a group of players has engaged Lord Kazzak, any other players interfering in the encounter may be given a warning, regardless of faction, as in the examples below: - A group of Alliance characters has legitimately engaged Lord Kazzak and a level 1 Horde character engages Lord Kazzak as well (Level 1 Horde player receives warning). - A group of Horde characters has legitimately engaged Lord Kazzak and a level 1 Horde character engages Lord Kazzak as well (Level 1 Horde player receives warning). PVP Ruleset - When a group of players has engaged Lord Kazzak, any same-faction players interfering in the encounter may be given a warning as in the examples below: - A group of Alliance characters has legitimately engaged Lord Kazzak and a level 1 Alliance character engages Lord Kazzak as well (Level 1 Alliance player receives warning). - However, when a group of players has engaged Lord Kazzak, any players of the opposing faction interfering in the encounter are free to do so as a PVP resolution is available to the victims. - A group of Alliance characters has legitimately engaged Lord Kazzak and a level 1 Horde character engages Lord Kazzak as well (No warnings given). This is the original that was used to create that video. It was performed by all members of the (now defunct) guild PiaS (http://www.poopinashoe.com) on Azgalor in early May 2005. Regarding Reddit Drama : click here to see In this Video you can see that the Druid engaged Boss , whose after the druid dead , the Boss did not reset it's HP and Paladin soloed/stolen afterward (before reckbomb nerf). This was Legit Mechanic and Blizzlike. /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane2 2 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, killerduki said: - A group of Alliance characters has legitimately engaged Lord Kazzak and a level 1 Horde character engages Lord Kazzak as well (No warnings given). Everything looks good until this. How is this allowed? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said: Everything looks good until this. How is this allowed? Ask Blizzard . /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csant 3 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 im sure blizzard gives a shit what happens on a private server. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxy 8 Report post Posted April 21, 2017 There is one major difference between retail and a private server. And that is the number of accounts that people can have. On pvp servers you couldnt have opposing faction characters on your account, so same faction greifing werent a thing after these rules came into place. But on private servers, you can have as many accounts as you wish, meaning players of the same faction can create lvl 1 chars of the opposing faction and send in to kazzak. A thing that make it hard to see the difference of same faction griefing, and opposing faction trying to compete 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites