Feral Druid Catform Attack Power Coefficient for Abilities?

[killerduki 54]

Opened this discussion , because i have a feeling nobody taking care about it or taking it serious.

I did some tests with my friend where some(probably all) of his Abilities didn't scale at all, neither reported on Bugtracker.

I'd love to hear more about it by Druid community, hope @taladril have some knowledge in this ?

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Mahtan 15]

I understand that this is about Cat Form, but I just want to point out that Swipe of Bear Form does not scale except with crit and that is 100% blizzlike. So I am not optimistic that Cat Form coefficients are that bright.

Regarding Shred: This one is working for sure. You can just use Tigers Fury and watch your numbers growing higher, following the description of the spell (225% auto attack damage).

The thing is: Even with full AQ40 equipment and one of these shiny 300 AP maces, my numbers (especially Claw, Ferocious Bite, Pounce and Rip) are still unexciting and not tremendously higher than with just blue BIS-gear. And I guess that's blizzlike. Shred and Ravage are the skills that actually scale well due to their dependency on weapon damage, similar to Maul of Bear Form.

Nevertheless I would love to see an actual list of coefficients, too. Can anyone read them out of the database? I have never tried to do that. Please help us! *damsel in distress* :P

[Keftenk 0]

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Attack Power coefficients

There are only 6 abilities that gain damage bonuses from your attack power. These are:
Eviscerate - 3% per combo point
Ferocious Bite - 3% per combo point
Garrote - 18% - 3% per tick (6)
Rake - 6% - 2% per tick (3)
Rip - 24% - 4% per tick (6)
Rupture - 24% - amount per tick and number of ticks based on CP

I wouldn't be surprised if anything was working on Elysium. The staff is a far cry from the Nost team. Elysium is more fun-server than anything.

So, my suggestion would be not to worry about coefficients and just abuse and exploit Pummeler with +weapon enchants if you want to make Feral Druid work.

[killerduki 54]

5 hours ago, Mahtan said:

Regarding Shred: This one is working for sure. You can just use Tigers Fury and watch your numbers growing higher, following the description of the spell (225% auto attack damage).

I assume this was "perhaps" only ability working with AP .

2 hours ago, Keftenk said:

I wouldn't be surprised if anything was working on Elysium. The staff is a far cry from the Nost team. Elysium is more fun-server than anything.

So, my suggestion would be not to worry about coefficients and just abuse and exploit Pummeler with +weapon enchants if you want to make Feral Druid work.

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Attack Power coefficients

There are only 6 abilities that gain damage bonuses from your attack power. These are:
Eviscerate - 3% per combo point
Ferocious Bite - 3% per combo point
Garrote - 18% - 3% per tick (6)
Rake - 6% - 2% per tick (3)
Rip - 24% - 4% per tick (6)
Rupture - 24% - amount per tick and number of ticks based on CP

Thanks alot Keftenk, do you mind also to share your sources please ?

Ferocious Bite , Rake , Rip (does not scale at all)

Done tests with and without Blessing of Might = 120 Attack Power,  the damage didn't change at all .

Still i'd like confirmations , because from what we've tested with our Feral Cat Guildie, it's so weird that nothing was scaling at all with Attack Power.

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Rafale 6]

Interesting. We need more testing

[killerduki 54]

6 hours ago, Rafale said:

Interesting. We need more testing

I am opening this discussion not because i benefit anything , neither i do get anything from it.

I do favor to a guildie + hopefully i can help druid community little with that , i personally have 0 knowledge about it , just found it curious that nothing was scaling , because i know the game was not made like that.

Need more info+sources+evidence about things,  so we can help Cat Ferals with bugreports.

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Keftenk 0]

19 hours ago, killerduki said:

I assume this was "perhaps" only ability working with AP .

Thanks alot Keftenk, do you mind also to share your sources please ?

Ferocious Bite , Rake , Rip (does not scale at all)

Done tests with and without Blessing of Might = 120 Attack Power,  the damage didn't change at all .

Still i'd like confirmations , because from what we've tested with our Feral Cat Guildie, it's so weird that nothing was scaling at all with Attack Power.

/Kind regards Killerduki

I'd have to honestly dig for my sources again. The Elysium team should have all my documentation before I left the team though, but seeing as how C'Thun wasn't even the pre-nerfed version. I highly doubt they even looked at class mechanics. Though...Staden is still around, so what do I know.

The easiest way to get 1.12.1 sources for this kind of thing is to break open Theorycraft from back in the day. You should still be able to find it and download the version before the Pre-TBC patch.