Gank Scene - am I missing something?

[Gnog 1]

38 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

I went to 60 2x and can verify that this comment is bullshit.

You know, One possibility is that you've been 60 for a little while and don't have a pulse on the current state of play. When did you level? What date ranges? 

[csant 3]

38 minutes ago, Gnog said:

You know, One possibility is that you've been 60 for a little while and don't have a pulse on the current state of play. When did you level? What date ranges? 

I am almost willing to bet it has been a while. People also need to realize while it is easy to level up horde solo, its not on alliance. Granted if you have some friends to level up with the experience is different. 

[Hurricane2 2]

January the 1st time and march the 2nd time, both on alliance.

[csant 3]

well, now you can't walk 100 feet w/o running into multiple hordies and while that would be great otherwise on a pvp server. it kinda sucks here because you can't complete stuff "solo" you have to be in a group. 

[Hurricane2 2]

Except for searing gorge, parts of burning steppes, and wpl off and on the other 48-60 zones really are not that crowded.  I patrol epl every day for example and can run across the whole map and find 1 or 2 horde on avg not including lights hope.

[Gnog 1]

 

1 hour ago, Hurricane2 said:

January the 1st time and march the 2nd time, both on alliance.

For me, it has been late March - now, for 2 characters. I've noticed a major change in the last 3 weeks. Basically since the beginning of May the ganking has been impressive. Maybe you're right that certain zones aren't too bad (EPL perhaps). But given the increase in systematic honor farming of questing alliance, I think there must have been a realization among more PvP horde that world PvP between BG queues is a meaningful or even necessary part of the PvP rank push. 

[Justme 9]

Go to Azshara and farm lvl 50 mobs there zZz

[Testoman 0]

Sololeveling as an ally is not that hard if you only use your brain, it's only slow and can be frustrating at times due to the issues discussed above. If a location x is full of horde and you get ganked constantly, don't be there, change your location and adapt to that situation. For me (lvl 54 warrior), that means skipping some zones entirely and doing some grinding and questing here and there. BS I haven't tried but landing to Thorium Point means immediate death and hope of having enough time to HS the f out there, which kinda ruins the leveling experience but whatever, I have more important things in life to stress about than a game xd. In general, the horde-ally ratio regardless of a zone seems to be more like 5:1 than unity as I rarely bump into other allies.

If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[Banezilla 2]

Make some friends, do quests together, and run some instances. Grind some levels in your safe space instances if you have to.

[Kattekvinnen 0]

A lot of people are talking beside the point here. The point Gnog is making isn't that there aren't ways to level an alliance character (grinding in not so popular zones etc.) but the fact that Horde have lately become increasingly aggressive in their griefing of lower level players, and that there are a lot more high ranking Horde players in zones like Burning Steppes, Searing Gorge, Felwood, Winterspring, and Un'Goro which makes leveling past 50 a pain for most people.

I completely agree with Gnog - in my experience (10 days /played since March) you will get outnumbered by Horde in almost every zone, and you'll live or die by their mercy.

I have also noticed an increase in griefing lately, especially in the Burning Steppes and Searing Gorge. But I've also spent significant amounts of time getting ganked in Winterspring and Un'Goro as well, so I don't really buy the argument that these zones are "safe", but that is also completely beside the point, as I've said.

As an example today (June 6) there were seventeen (17) horde placed starting from outside the Blackrock Mountain until the very entrance of Blackrock Depths (I had time to count because the run to the instance entrance from Thorium Point took 34 minutes). As I'm sure you can appreciate that makes it pretty difficult to get to the dungeon.

Compound that with six high-ranking hordes constantly griefing at Morgan's Vigil (Karatequin, Flameboy, etc.) and things get pretty hard for most players getting things done in those zones.

Now it's important to note that there's nothing inherently wrong with any of this - it's a consequence of playing on a PvP server and having an imbalanced faction ratio - I just think it's unnecessary to blow if off like nonsense like (for instance) Hurricane2 is doing.

Yes, there's an imbalance between the two factions, and yes there's been a lot of griefing lately. And I don't think there's a lot anyone can do about it I'm afraid, so just hang in there. :-)

[Gronnrock 0]

Some people just keep calling it ganking griefing camping etcc etc... Yes it is absolutely frustrating to keep getting killed over and over again.

But it is World of Warcraft!

As I see it most lands are ruled by the Horde. We are in war with them.... If you trespassing the lands they rule then you have a good chance you die.

You should make a stand and gather friends and fellow adventures to fight them.

It is all part of the game. And for a high level horde "ganking" low levels, I see him/her as a murderer and If you know it then you should avoid that area for your safety.

This is how I (try to) see it.

 

Good luck on all your adventures. 

[ismeckye 7]

9 hours ago, Gronnrock said:

Some people just keep calling it ganking griefing camping etcc etc... Yes it is absolutely frustrating to keep getting killed over and over again.

But it is World of Warcraft!

As I see it most lands are ruled by the Horde. We are in war with them.... If you trespassing the lands they rule then you have a good chance you die.

You should make a stand and gather friends and fellow adventures to fight them.

It is all part of the game. And for a high level horde "ganking" low levels, I see him/her as a murderer and If you know it then you should avoid that area for your safety.

This is how I (try to) see it.

 

Good luck on all your adventures. 

 I really dont want to belittle you but ARE you lvl 50+ yet? What if the alliance PvP premades would stany outside BRM and wouldnt let anyone pass except by dying though over and over? Thats the exact situation. Alliance premades and top guilds wipe the floor with the horde - but only when they have to or at certain times. So they wipe them 40 vs 200 in BRM or in BGs. But in thehigh level open world its the horde highranks 10+ often that totally shit one prebis farming alliance. Not much to fight against when you get steamrolled by 8 chinese rankers who sit at a flightmaster all day trying to get a spell off on you to get honor. It no  RPG style, its pure 100% grind and thats why I wont bother with ranking, its 100% 0 fun on horde side. It might on alliance side because you can sit in BGs all day with friends but on horde it must suck hard. Thats why 99% of rankers are chinese who just put up with it.

[khalismur 6]

As a 54 dwarf hunter, I confirm ganking in insane right now. Many leveling friends I met along the way simply don't log anymore or are levelling alts.

Found some peace in isolated subzones of silithus and will try my patience to grind there to 60. Reporting back soon..

My ud warrior is already level 22 meanwhile... :-(

[Howdil 0]

On 5/26/2017 at 10:48 AM, Justme said:

Consider getting gut

 

[holix 0]

There only making the situation worse. The ammount of people I know who have left because they cant level, or switched over to the horde is insane. Clearly i'm not the only one with this experience. So continue what your doing, the alliance pop will go down even further, your BG que will be even longer, and you'll have a server full of horde and the alliance who were already 60 who stay in there city.

World chat is constantly full of the same people at redridge,darkshire,wetlands,theramore,southshore, TP flight path, BS quest givers, chillwind point and so on. literally everywhere

[Testoman 0]

On 31.5.2017 at 10:24 AM, Testoman said:

If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

The heat got me. With limited amount of time to play (roughly one hour at a time), a choice between dying all the time or trying to stand against the horde had to be made. With the given amount of allies in the same zone the choice was always the former or more like logging out. XP wise it didn't matter, since there was no xp flowing in anyway. Vanilla used to be more than constant wpvp where one could actually explore the world and quest. And don't give me the "form a group" bs, that is not always possible.

It's great if someone can enjoy the game the way it is at the moment, but this is not something I can. Too bad because the project is managed and executed well, good job devs.

[csant 3]

The elysium crew should probably do something like warmane did and stop horde from creating new chars. give alliance some perks and what not. 

[Banezilla 2]

You know the Hordes can't touch you if you're in an instance right? Run to the instance as a 5 man crew and kill all of the solo Horde you see, hopefully you don't run into another group.

 

I'm all for Alliance getting perks for rolling on this server. Maybe open Alliance only transfers?

[holix 0]

would people actually take the plunge though, its like intentionally gimping yourself

[Hurricane2 2]

21 hours ago, holix said:

There only making the situation worse. The ammount of people I know who have left because they cant level, or switched over to the horde is insane. Clearly i'm not the only one with this experience. So continue what your doing, the alliance pop will go down even further, your BG que will be even longer, and you'll have a server full of horde and the alliance who were already 60 who stay in there city.

World chat is constantly full of the same people at redridge,darkshire,wetlands,theramore,southshore, TP flight path, BS quest givers, chillwind point and so on. literally everywhere

Actually the alliance vs horde pop has been steadily becoming more equal so your post is complete bullshit.

If by chance you are out numbered 40:1 in a zone there are ways to still gain steady xp with out corpse running and complaining like a noob.

[holix 0]

4 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Actually the alliance vs horde pop has been steadily becoming more equal so your post is complete bullshit.

If by chance you are out numbered 40:1 in a zone there are ways to still gain steady xp with out corpse running and complaining like a noob.

Your posts are equal to anti vaxers and climate change deniers and are well documented as complete "bullshit"

[khalismur 6]

9 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

Actually the alliance vs horde pop has been steadily becoming more equal so your post is complete bullshit.

If by chance you are out numbered 40:1 in a zone there are ways to still gain steady xp with out corpse running and complaining like a noob.

Oftentimes I agree with your posts, but this time you have little knowledge of what you speak.

If you mean the whole server's faction ratio, then yes, it might be close to 52/48 to horde. But at any moment, in Un'goro, Winterspring, Felwood, Burning Steppes and Searing Gorge, you will see at least 2 horde to one alliance, so (66/33 ratio).

[Mozq 1]

Had to take a break leveling today because of two groups of alliance players constantly ganking me, so it's the same thing on both sides.

[Hurricane2 2]

7 hours ago, holix said:

Your posts are equal to anti vaxers and climate change deniers and are well documented as complete "bullshit"

Ok prove what I said is incorrect.

[Ned612 0]

On 5/30/2017 at 0:10 PM, Korben said:

 Leveling Alliance on Elysium makes you quit the game.

I second this - I am at level 31 and strongly considering quitting. When more than 50% is spent running back to my body from level 60 ganks, it is no longer enjoyable.