Blizzlike be Blizzlike

[Shynthia 7]

31 minutes ago, woahwut said:

Is that why you posted in another topic to bring back old Mounts, even though it's not blizzlike?

Sounds like you're just looking out for your own interests.

This server aint blizzlike at all so fuck it ... loottable nerf, walljumps bannable (at least if you are horde and not ally/praise)  who cares in that case if mounts will not be removed?

[Pleasehelp 0]

1 minute ago, Shynthia said:

This server aint blizzlike at all so fuck it ... loottable nerf, walljumps bannable (at least if you are horde and not ally/praise)  who cares in that case if mounts will not be removed?

Walljumps were also bannable on retail servers ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNgGCGl0_S0

12:57

[Pleasehelp 0]

People weren't aware of all the glitches and bugs that you could abuse back in the day. Through time we have learned about them. Just because something wasn't bannable back in the day, it doesn't mean that it should be acceptable today.

[Lyalp 0]

I think this guy just wants to complain and insult others.

[Shynthia 7]

45 minutes ago, Lyalp said:

I think this guy just wants to complain and insult others.

Sure especially as i did not said anything rude to anybody 

[Shynthia 7]

2 hours ago, Pleasehelp said:

Walljumps were also bannable on retail servers ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNgGCGl0_S0

12:57

Nope their were not, you were not allowed to enter areas like old if but nothing prohibited you from jumping up some hill if you wanted to - or on top of a house as long as you did not use wall/hill-climbing hacks - and your vid has nothing to do with vanilla as its tbc 

[Pleasehelp 0]

Because back in the day blizz was working on a fix and this server dosent allow abuse of the system, I hope that answers your question.

[Pleasehelp 0]

Have a great day! :-)

[TTL 6]

6 hours ago, Abra024 said:

Then why was freezing band 400g when it wasn't nerfed and 800-1000 gold now thats not always true for everything. Don't try and justify it with something stupid like inflation it was a good farming spot regardless and a source of income for honest players.

 

Also the cost of epic mount will always be the static amount of gold no matter how the economy is and I bet you anything thats the main thing people buy gold for. They're going out of their way to break the vanilla game because they're so obsessed with stopping gold sellers how about not nerfing the farming spots so people can buy their mount and epix with no need for buying gold.

On Elysium freezing band is BiS now, later it won't be BiS especially with many BiS raid options, supply and demand is always a factor and of course people have less gold in the first 2-3 months than in the 6 months so of course prices will naturally be different.

@Shynthia Economics isn't hard to understand when you add in supply and demand, the Linen was only an example so pea brains could understand without taking it literally into context but guess that failed ;)

[Ninjacorpse 2]

By now its clear that most of the staff plays alliance and it shows. You cn 5 man Sylvanas but Magni has lvl 70 stats.

This I can live with but last month especially theres things ive seen that is making me less enthusiastic about playing here, people finding exploits, reporting them and then getting banned (lol), favouritism in things mentioned in this topic etc.

Trust me, the less changes you make and the more fixes, the better the gaming experience will be for everyone.

If that is the goal..

[Lyalp 0]

1 hour ago, Shynthia said:

Sure especially as i did not said anything rude to anybody 

Actually, there are many things that you said that were pretty insulting... Especially to people's intelligence, and it hasn't stopped. You came on here for a reason, which I can understand, got carried away with people answering the way they did, not accepting what they say or trying to have an intellectual conversation. I'm done here.

[Shynthia 7]

11 hours ago, Lyalp said:

Actually, there are many things that you said that were pretty insulting... Especially to people's intelligence, and it hasn't stopped. You came on here for a reason, which I can understand, got carried away with people answering the way they did, not accepting what they say or trying to have an intellectual conversation. I'm done here.

Insult is when i call you a dumb f+#k or esle which i didn't and wont - its just an example!

To say somebody has no clue what he is talking about or to call nerfs genious-level-nerfs  is not an insult ...

[Masteridley 3]

QQ mages can't make double the amount of gold as everyone else anymore life must be so tough!

But seriously these are some very minor changes in the big picture, and anyone with half a brain can see why it's good for the server in the long run. 

The only people you will find crying about it is the classes who were previously able to exploit said methods. There are but a handful of you folks, I advise you save your breath because no amount of whining is going to make the staff change their stance on this for good reasons. 

[Shynthia 7]

5 minutes ago, Masteridley said:

QQ mages can't make double the amount of gold as everyone else anymore life must be so tough!

But seriously these are some very minor changes in the big picture, and anyone with half a brain can see why it's good for the server in the long run. 

The only people you will find crying about it is the classes who were previously able to exploit said methods. There are but a handful of you folks, I advise you save your breath because no amount of whining is going to make the staff change their stance on this for good reasons. 

Mages cant, Rogues cant, Hunter cant .... its not affecting only 1 Class ...

[Masteridley 3]

3 hours ago, Shynthia said:

Mages cant, Rogues cant, Hunter cant .

Can't what? They are still the 3 best classes to solo farm gold even post nerf so my point stands.

There are actual issues that should be addressed on these servers, one of them is not that those 3 classes are struggling to get by from a gold perspective.

[Abra024 2]

On 6/28/2017 at 5:32 PM, TTL said:

On Elysium freezing band is BiS now, later it won't be BiS especially with many BiS raid options, supply and demand is always a factor and of course people have less gold in the first 2-3 months than in the 6 months so of course prices will naturally be different.

@Shynthia Economics isn't hard to understand when you add in supply and demand, the Linen was only an example so pea brains could understand without taking it literally into context but guess that failed ;)

See no need to waste words again just read what i said before and stop pulling shit from your ass to try and make an argument. "Inflation" and "Oh there are other issues" is not an argument. If they want to stop people buying gold they shouldn't be nerfing the best places to farm it in the game just plain stupid and not "blizz like"

[TTL 6]

1 hour ago, Abra024 said:

See no need to waste words again just read what i said before and stop pulling shit from your ass to try and make an argument. "Inflation" and "Oh there are other issues" is not an argument. If they want to stop people buying gold they shouldn't be nerfing the best places to farm it in the game just plain stupid and not "blizz like"

You must lack common sense and knowledge on how markets work so do your best to quiet down. I'm a power trader on several MMO's reaching high amounts of wealth so don't be so quick to dismiss what I have to say simply because you want to disagree with me for your own sake.

Your statement "Then why was freezing band 400g when it wasn't nerfed and 800-1000 gold now thats not always true for everything. Don't try and justify it with something stupid like inflation it was a good farming spot regardless and a source of income for honest players."

Now I'll try to explain this more clearly for you. First off, giving me a timeline would better help me analyze but your extremely vague comment. You state why was freezing band 400g, but "now" it's 800-100g. 

1) When it was 400g there were far less level 60 mages than right now that was interested (Demand)
2) "Now" there is much more gold in the game than before. (Supply Gold/Rings)

Supply + Demand, it's seriously not that difficult to understand. Obviously there is tons of mages who have 800g that want the ring, and this is why the price is roughly around 800g. If no one ever bought them then the price would slowly decline from undercuts and a larger supply that slowly enter the game.

Now if we let every gold farm pump massive "pure gold" into the economy you would be looking at the same amount of mages with 2000g instead of 800g and the price will be higher. While we can argue that's fine because everyone can make faster gold you are actually hurting less knowledgeable players or low level players who do not have access to high demand resources or farming spots to make as much gold to buy these items at inflated prices which does ruin their gaming experience.

If you can't understand this, you're probably just stupid and will believe anything you have to say which has little to no actual substance in the first place. 

[Abra024 2]

54 minutes ago, TTL said:

You must lack common sense and knowledge on how markets work so do your best to quiet down. I'm a power trader on several MMO's reaching high amounts of wealth so don't be so quick to dismiss what I have to say simply because you want to disagree with me for your own sake.

Your statement "Then why was freezing band 400g when it wasn't nerfed and 800-1000 gold now thats not always true for everything. Don't try and justify it with something stupid like inflation it was a good farming spot regardless and a source of income for honest players."

Now I'll try to explain this more clearly for you. First off, giving me a timeline would better help me analyze but your extremely vague comment. You state why was freezing band 400g, but "now" it's 800-100g. 

1) When it was 400g there were far less level 60 mages than right now that was interested (Demand)
2) "Now" there is much more gold in the game than before. (Supply Gold/Rings)

Supply + Demand, it's seriously not that difficult to understand. Obviously there is tons of mages who have 800g that want the ring, and this is why the price is roughly around 800g. If no one ever bought them then the price would slowly decline from undercuts and a larger supply that slowly enter the game.

Now if we let every gold farm pump massive "pure gold" into the economy you would be looking at the same amount of mages with 2000g instead of 800g and the price will be higher. While we can argue that's fine because everyone can make faster gold you are actually hurting less knowledgeable players or low level players who do not have access to high demand resources or farming spots to make as much gold to buy these items at inflated prices which does ruin their gaming experience.

If you can't understand this, you're probably just stupid and will believe anything you have to say which has little to no actual substance in the first place. 

What I said is very simple and your point is mute so its funny you say it has no actual substance " I see no need to waste words again just read what i said before and stop pulling shit from your ass to try and make an argument."

Its very simple. Diremaul was a good place to farm gold it should not have been nerfed and they're actually helping the gold sellers by taking away ways to make gold honestly. Again in caps so you understand IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THE ECONOMY IS ON THE SERVER.

They are not going to "fix" the game and inflation by nerfing farm spots and lowering the amount of gold on the server and they are not going to stop gold sellers by nerfing it. Also that is absolute bullshit. If linen is selling at an inflated price of 2-5 gold per stack they are still making gold at those inflated values also they are getting their mounts faster. For example when elemental earth is selling for 3 gold each instead of 70 silver each. I had 150 gold on old nost(Before elysium) by the time I hit 40 while training all my skills because of that insane amount of inflation.

 

You're not arguing any of my points and not at all justifying diremaul being nerfed so stop wasting your time.

[TTL 6]

12 minutes ago, Abra024 said:

What I said is very simple and your point is mute so its funny you say it has no actual substance " I see no need to waste words again just read what i said before and stop pulling shit from your ass to try and make an argument."

Its very simple. Diremaul was a good place to farm gold it should not have been nerfed and they're actually helping the gold sellers by taking away ways to make gold honestly. Again in caps so you understand IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THE ECONOMY IS ON THE SERVER.

They are not going to "fix" the game and inflation by nerfing farm spots and lowering the amount of gold on the server and they are not going to stop gold sellers by nerfing it. Also that is absolute bullshit. If linen is selling at an inflated price of 2-5 gold per stack they are still making gold at those inflated values also they are getting their mounts faster. For example when elemental earth is selling for 3 gold each instead of 70 silver each. I had 150 gold on old nost(Before elysium) by the time I hit 40 while training all my skills because of that insane amount of inflation.

 

You're not arguing any of my points and not at all justifying diremaul being nerfed so stop wasting your time.

"Diremaul was a good place to farm gold" - Exactly why it was nerfed

"IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THE ECONOMY IS ON THE SERVER." - This is exactly why you're an idiot that knows nothing about economics OR previous servers that have died due to inflation because no one wants to play there or the game has so much gold everyone runs GDKP and new players can't even join a raid xD

Clearly they will slow down the pace of inflation when massive "pure gold" is not being entered into the game. Also when someone earns a mount is irrelevant. Also just to debunk your Linen example, you get tons of Linen to the point it's always dirt cheap on the AH, there is no reason for high level and rich players to buy the Linen compared to say Runecloth... so Linen will not see large rise with inflation, and inflation will still make items take just as long to earn except for static prices like Mounts.

Now go search for "your truth" rather than "the truth" like most dense people.

[Abra024 2]

12 minutes ago, TTL said:

"Diremaul was a good place to farm gold" - Exactly why it was nerfed

"IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THE ECONOMY IS ON THE SERVER." - This is exactly why you're an idiot that knows nothing about economics OR previous servers that have died due to inflation because no one wants to play there or the game has so much gold everyone runs GDKP and new players can't even join a raid xD

Clearly they will slow down the pace of inflation when massive "pure gold" is not being entered into the game. Also when someone earns a mount is irrelevant. Also just to debunk your Linen example, you get tons of Linen to the point it's always dirt cheap on the AH, there is no reason for high level and rich players to buy the Linen compared to say Runecloth... so Linen will not see large rise with inflation, and inflation will still make items take just as long to earn except for static prices like Mounts.

Now go search for "your truth" rather than "the truth" like most dense people.

Not dense just like to argue the fact when I know I'm right.

 

And again thats not true for everything things like elemental earth are easy to get while leveling and the same price on the auction house, 3g per is a lot for someone leveling and makes it easier to get a mount at 40(Oh yea and giving less reason for someone wanting to buy gold). Diremaul being un-nerfed isnt going to all of a sudden skyrocket prices and inflate the auction house and destroy the server again another reason why your arguments and all your points have "No actual substance"

[TTL 6]

2 minutes ago, Abra024 said:

Not dense just like to argue the fact when I know I'm right.

 

And again thats not true for everything things like elemental earth are easy to get while leveling and the same price on the auction house, 3g per is a lot for someone leveling and makes it easier to get a mount at 40(Oh yea and giving less reason for someone wanting to buy gold). Diremaul being un-nerfed isnt going to all of a sudden skyrocket prices and inflate the auction house and destroy the server again another reason why your arguments and all your points have "No actual substance"

What are you right about? Clearly nerfing gold gains into the game will slow down inflation. 1+1=2

Also your reasoning for inflation is so "people won't buy gold" is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. You're supporting a slow death to the game because others CHOOSE to break the rules? That's like blaming the bank for having money in it's vault instead of the bank robbers lmao.

[Abra024 2]

Just now, TTL said:

What are you right about? Clearly nerfing gold gains into the game will slow down inflation. 1+1=2

My argument in the first place was not even about inflation you brought it up. It was whether or not nerfing diremaul is going to stop gold selling and people from buying gold and it will do nothing except the opposite. Inflation is not an issue here if we are on the topic of diremaul and its not going to do absolute shit to the economy expect make it easier and more fun to make gold.

[TTL 6]

Just now, Abra024 said:

My argument in the first place was not even about inflation you brought it up. It was whether or not nerfing diremaul is going to stop gold selling and people from buying gold and it will do nothing except the opposite. Inflation is not an issue here if we are on the topic of diremaul and its not going to do absolute shit to the economy expect make it easier and more fun to make gold.

Okay? I've read that ages ago but again your focus is in the wrong place. We shouldn't try to prevent people from buying gold, that's their choice and they deserve to be banned. Giving millions of dollars to someone to prevent them from robbing a bank is a silly reality.

I also don't see how it will make it easier to make gold when diremaul is nerfed xD

[Abra024 2]

17 minutes ago, TTL said:

Okay? I've read that ages ago but again your focus is in the wrong place. We shouldn't try to prevent people from buying gold, that's their choice and they deserve to be banned. Giving millions of dollars to someone to prevent them from robbing a bank is a silly reality.

I also don't see how it will make it easier to make gold when diremaul is nerfed xD

Where did I ever say that inflation is going to stop people from buying gold? How hard is this to understand for you.. They nerfed diremaul in order to stop goldsellers from having a good source of it but people would have no reason to even buy gold if they would stop nerfing the spots there are a million different ways to make gold in this game and nerfing it is not going to stop them.

 

You do understand that it was 45g and hour just from selling greys and now its 20-25? Almost cut in half because the drop rates were nerfed. They also added mobs in diremaul east and made them twice as fast (But still doable)  the gold to be made there is also nerfed. Its more of a personal preference someone can go around gathering dreamfoil/gromsblood and do pretty good but someone like me that has leatherworking/skinning/enchanting can make a lot more from diremaul.

 

I also leveled a rogue to 35 with leatherworking/enchanting as well as my mage to 300 skinning in order to farm diremaul north but all that work has gone to waste because they think its "too good" and nerf it in order to "stop" gold sellers.

Thats all Im going to say on it you can try to justify it idgaf I just wanted to get the point across that nerfing the vanilla game in order to "stop" gold sellers is straight up retarded and achieves the opposite.

[TTL 6]

2 hours ago, Abra024 said: