Important Project Update 03.11.2017

[Garthim 0]

6 minutes ago, Ash said:

Actually, a vote was cast and many players did want it. In fact of 5 thousand players are playing which wanted it. WoW classic is always 'a thing' but the whole point of Nighthaven is a fast progressive server which will go to TBC in which we will be one expansion ahead of Blizzard. But we will always keep your Vanilla characters available for use.

Do you have a link to that poll?  The only one I can find falsifies your claim.  http://www.strawpoll.me/14353224/r

[Gunthra 0]

So after watching the news over the last few weeks and waiting for at least Stratholm to come online to get a glimpse at toons I've worked for hours to get to their 40s in my spare time you cancel the resurrection? There is no legitimate way to have them moved? I started back on Nostalrius years ago and if they are just being tossed I can't express to you how screwed up that really is. I'm sure many feel the same. I really do want to know if I can get them back though, because I like vanilla and I did enjoy these servers, but there is no way I'm reinvesting a toon on a "fresh" server if you will toss them again when you run into problems. Realistically it's a waste of time for me, and others who play casually off-and-on.

[slapjack 0]

i have plaved wow since blizzard released it,  i have played on N, elysium, and on you new server, nighthaven.  but i do not want to spend hours lving a character and then lose them and have to start over on a new server again,  i love classec, but if this is the case, i will go back to blizzard and play there on my lv 100 characters.  i hope you will think about all the players that you have chosen to waste their time playing on your servers that you have shut down. 

Edited December 4, 2017 by slapjack
correction

[Bazuka 6]

God dammit, if u wanna play you r14 AQ40 naxx characters just go to LH. They all there.

(optional) u can use restoration tool for the future safety of your characters when LH will die. (it just clone character tool).

[Zlac 0]

To many players the realm was really pointless, and I honestly can't disagree. The server was not at any time as populated as we or I atleast thought. No one knows as if from where the characters were transfered from that there wasn't transferede a big amount of "fake" gold to ruin even more the economy. I really think it was a good idea to put the server offline.

(Just my thoughts).

[Zoxis 0]

Lol, we waited all this time (+ an announcement-to-play-delay for about 1 month) to have the server running for 1 day, and then letting us know our characters from Anathema etc. are gone forever?

Classy .......

[Zlac 0]

Please read the announcement carefully through @Zoxis.

 

It clearly states:

 

• What about Stratholme characters? See below on details about Stratholme, but there may be a possible to have all previous backups that we owned in which we can transfer to the TBC realm for you.

 

[steve1 0]

10 hours ago, Ash said:

Actually, a vote was cast and many players did want it. In fact of 5 thousand players are playing which wanted it. WoW classic is always 'a thing' but the whole point of Nighthaven is a fast progressive server which will go to TBC in which we will be one expansion ahead of Blizzard. But we will always keep your Vanilla characters available for use.

While many players do want the fast paced progression. What do you do with the people like myself who started a new character on Stratholme to "ease" back into the game where we left off on vanilla retail? I spent 16 hours on a new character only to log out and come back from work and see this news of the server got the axe. Was the intended purpose only for character restoration and not for someone like myself who wanted to fall into a place in late game content? I'm really confused at this point and would at least like a cut and dry statement as to whether or not I will see the character that I had freshly started on Stratholme.

[Ayalieve 0]

Too many on this forum don't read posts properly. I understand that many feel they wasted time on characters but that can be said for Nostalrius. At any point in time, blizzard could smack the Elysium-Project with a CAD letter, making progress for anyone else and I from Nighthaven.. moot. Understand that most of the reason you are here is because you LOVE the Vanilla experience, showing that very often by your 'passionate' replies. Yet complaining about a game with a grind as a waste of time is not the answer. There was turmoil within the Project of Elysium that caused many issues with the servers. They tried their best after that whole aftermath to bring your characters back, which they did. Sadly the time in which it took to get it back up, people moved on. From the perspective of the Project, that means they're spending money on a server box needlessly when their fresh server Nighthaven gets more than 15 times the amount Stratholme gets as a preexisting realm. Companies are not perfect, nor is leadership, but at least they try. They try very hard to make the experience enjoyable for everyone and many take that for granted. This project replies very fast with service to complaints and requests, all of which is free. An so I say this, if you are having such a big problem with the outcome, leave. The rest of us will be here enjoying the very much bug free fun experience that this Project provides.

 

[softclocks 0]

Disappointing but understandable.

I am disappointed that neither the staff of Elysium nor the LH guys handled the previous situation better. 

Greed squandered the opportunity and possibility of a unified private vanilla server.

[Haniel87 0]

So... Let me get this right...

Stratholme has been taken down, permanently or not.

People's characters from that realm are gone, including my own..

People are now forced to play on Nighthaven, which is a pvp realm, that will transfer to TBC at some point in the future?

 

... I.. Im not sure I like this, I mean yea okay I only made it to lvl 10 on Stratholme, but being forced to start anew on a realm that's going to be a fast progression realm...

On the contrary to what some people might believe, I actually liked the less populated realm. It was much easier in the starting zone to get things done, because you werent competing with a horde of other players for the same quest mobs. And with some of the quests requiring questitem drops from the mobs, it makes it even harder on a fully populated server because of the looting system, where if an item drops, only 1 player can pick it up, so grouping for those particular quests is useless, unless you want to spend even more time on killing at least twice as many of those mobs.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Haniel87

[Kalmar 0]

No one is forcing you to play on Nighthaven. We would love to have you, but you're free to make a choice. :)

Nighthaven will stay a vanilla realm, at some point TBC realm will be released and you guys will be able to make a copy of your character from Nighthaven to a freshly released TBC realm.

As far as Stratholme is concerned, Ayalieve pretty much got it right. It was not an easy decision to make, but all of the staff members agreed to take it down. We hoped it would be a success, but keeping it on for like two-three hundred players was just not viable, especially with Nighthaven doing so well. I'm aware of the fact that this whole situation regarding Stratholme pissed some of you and I apologize for that.

[Haniel87 0]

Dont get me wrong, I am not pissed. 

You made the decision that was realistic, Im just sad that it wasnt more visible on the website, instead of just the forums, at least that's the only place I've been able to find anything about it.

Also sad that the realm wasn't given more time. It was only up for a very short time, if it had had a little more time, more people might've been able to see the benefits of migrating over to a little less populated server. *Shrug*

[koda 0]

Stratholme >? You start it and delete?

Please give us one PVE server if it is possible

[Kalmar 0]

We do not plan to open a new server at the given time. 

[Booksie 0]

Everyone was at Nighthaven so it's understandable. Maybe I will see my transferred toons on a TBC server when the Elysium Project gets that up and running. Looking forward to The Dark Portal opening here.

Edited December 5, 2017 by Booksie

[Maderek 0]

Since Stratholme is closed, can the "Restore characters" link be removed from the front page?

Otherwise you are just going to confuse players who return after not playing for many months thinking they can get their characters back.

[Kalmar 0]

1 hour ago, Maderek said:

Since Stratholme is closed, can the "Restore characters" link be removed from the front page?

Otherwise you are just going to confuse players who return after not playing for many months thinking they can get their characters back.

Our restoration tool still servers a purpose. To be more specific, restored characters could be used at some point if something happens to Light's Hope. Other than that, there's a chance you will be able to use restored characters  on our new TBC realm once it comes out.

[Maderek 0]

Well it would make more sense to bring back that tool if/when something happens to Light's Hope, or when the TBC realm is released. Having it up right now just seems to me to serve no purpose.

Just trying to save you all some trouble, there have been near daily messages on the tech forums asking "why can't I restore my characters!?"

[ProMeTheus112 1]

As a wpvp player I just want to say again, I hope nighthaven doesn't get overcrowded. Vanilla works best with caps around 2K or 3K especially on pvp (even for pve I'm sure this has perks). It's up to any staff who is able to run servers ofc whether they want to open any server, but if you opened a pve server that would bring a direct answer to population control while also accomodating those who don't want to be attacked or attack others by default in the world.

wow classic pvp is pretty hard, and finely tuned. blizzard at the time thought to make two versions of this game for players who like to play a different style. Clearly playing your character optimized for killing monsters as efficiently as possible is just a very risky style on a pvp realm and even more so on more population (not blizzlike). Because it involves letting your health or mana drop a lot more than you can afford to without being at the mercy of the first opponent who comes around and chooses to attack you (which a wpvp player will probably do). So you know, at blizzlike pop this isn't such an issue because you can scout and predict opponents a lot easier tracking, monster corpses, etc, it becomes lot easier to evade and you can get a chance to use all your tools better before you would get to a situation where you have to lose and lose your buffs that you planned on etc.

that said, I'm having good time on nighthaven, it's really good to have it, low "tech" (economy) makes balanced game its quite interesting how everything works out with the trading and all. I seem to come across bots quite often though, I wonder how many there are at a given time o_O

I know its hard to please everyone, a server can be undercrowded or overcrowded, I think best to do is just open more than one server but I'm not doing that myself so I'm just suggesting thx for your work on classic servers its important that this game always has its place to live its the best mmo I know great wild pve/pvp stuff

[2ez 0]

It's a pity that the server was closed, however, please give us a chance to transfer our characters to Nighthaven. I have a lvl 50 mage and 27 lock back from Nostalrius I don't want too lose. I'd love to play on Nighthaven, but I don't want to level all over again. My characters aren't even 60 yet, so the patch difference between the realms shouldn't be a problem?! 

[ProMeTheus112 1]

also about the LH stuff

its kinda obscure for players cause we can't really see all that's going on with the staff right

when elysium shut down I was there and got the message and followed the information, I mean who had a clear idea what was going on at first I wondered if the server just got hacked lol. Immediately after learning about the gold gen stuff that made me want to start over because I just had a feeling the economy was rigged. It did bring imbalance to me and I just wanted to start on a new server. The data porting stuff, I just don't know what to think I mean did LH save something by grasping the full server away from who was doing the economy rigging in the staff? yes?

should they have rather just opened their own new server?

maybe, maybe

they have been doing good job at providing a good place to keep playing for players of elysium

[ProMeTheus112 1]

6 minutes ago, 2ez said:

It's a pity that the server was closed, however, please give us a chance to transfer our characters to Nighthaven. I have a lvl 50 mage and 27 lock back from Nostalrius I don't want too lose. I'd love to play on Nighthaven, but I don't want to level all over again. My characters aren't even 60 yet, so the patch difference between the realms shouldn't be a problem?! 

and this I'm just gonna give my opinion, I think the economy of the game is well constructed, and I do not want to see it affected by transfers of characters that were not leveled on it and that didn't acquire their wealths by playing on it and bring that wealth and power to generate wealth on it

I know blizzard did start making char transfers at some point, I think they saw this as a good opportunity to take more money lol

anyway I don't think it's good for the server especially not on its first "fresh run" or "legit" lol so basically so long as this doesn't start happening I'm happy to play on it, after not so sure

As a player, if I wanted to play on a different realm I feel like if I know that realm is good I'd be pretty happy for the opportunity cause I enjoy the game from lvl1. I think its interesting to level the same class again and build it different, there are so many ways and you likely will never have really tested everything for one or two classes even. So you know if you enjoy the game not just raids and BGs but also all the outdoors stuff, I think just make a new char on a realm you want to play on.. I think thats better for the game, for the realms integrity and economy and balance

[Booksie 0]

I won't be going back to Lemmings Hope no matter what as they are all being led over a cliff edge over there blindly trusting & following one another when WoW Classic launches, literally like a bunch of shilling lemmings regardless of if they get a 'backup' of their data or not. I'm having a great time at Nighthaven and staying here and wish to continue playing at The Elysium Project long after WoW Classic is live.

Please keep the transfer option open indefinitely as well in case one of the Lemmings over there has a Eureka moment and suddenly makes a great escape to Elysium for your TBC server later on.

Ex-Lemmings Hope players can always play at Nighthaven too like this ex-Lemming.

Edited December 6, 2017 by Booksie

[ProMeTheus112 1]

dafuk, lemmings? lol

cool game