The only reason you have a problem with gold sellers and account theft...

[Wtbjawpst 0]

Because mounts cost too much. 

It's really that simple.  A brand new character that starts at level 1 and quests to 40, doing random pickup dungeons, not buying any items from the AH, and selling their random good greens/blues will have about 50-60 gold when they ding 40. 

 

Q: But if everyone does that how does anyone have mounts?

A: Sell your tradeskill items on the AH, then you can get mount money

 

Q: But if everyone does that how does anyone with a leveled tradeskill have a mount?

A: They're making a profit turning materials into finished items

 

Q: But if the people who aren't supposed to buy anything on the AH to save for a mount are buying crafted items, how do they have mounts?

A: Gold sellers

 

You can mix and match the above hypotheticals but eventually one (or more) of these groups of people (joe random player, profit-making crafter player, gold saving frugal player) lands on "the only way to get a mount is to buy gold from a gold seller."

 

It's the same reason that Blizzard had a problem with gold farmers and gold sellers.  In a game where every item is bound to the character wearing it, there is no reason for gold at all, honestly.  If I had to guess I would guess that Blizzard realized that early in their beta and simply picked something arbitrarily that every player had to buy with gold and grossly inflated that one price.  Blizzard had a problem with account theft too, if you remember.  People would steal accounts to disenchant all of the items and steal the gold, just like gold sellers are doing here.

 

The whole thing can be traced back to level 40 and level 60 vendor purchased mounts costing too much.

 

tl;dr: there's no reason to repeat Blizzard's mistakes just because there's a Blizzard stamp on them.  If you want to fix the gold economy and stop gold sellers (and account thieves supplying gold sellers), lower the default purchased mount prices by half and people won't need to buy gold anymore.  Instead of having an economy crippled by gold hoarding for mounts, you'll have a working economy in which all sorts of things trade hands.

Edited December 11, 2017 by Wtbjawpst

[Ratfink 0]

This is complete garbage OP. Where did you get your 50/60g by level 40 estimate? From your ass, that's where. A clear case of 96.43827% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

My method to make money on the run up to 40 is to grind your levels in an area THEN do the quests when they are green for the rewards. Gathering professions make money too. Sod the manufacturing profs until max level as they usually cost you money to level before then. Grind, grind, grind - loot everything. Vendor all greys (some greys vendor for a surprisingly high amount of silver), auction everything else (use auctioneer add on to get best prices). If you put a bit of effort in then you'll have your mount at 40, no problem.

 

[Kalmar 0]

Gold is really not that hard to get, and it is only going to get easier as the server advances because prices are going up.

[Salle 0]

Yep, grind, grind, loot, sell shit, buy bigger bags, and again grind. I bought mount and skill at 40 and left with 9g. Ofc, most ppl just want fast lvl to 60....well, no mount for ya at 40 then:)

[Wtbjawpst 0]

1 hour ago, Kalmar said:

Gold is really not that hard to get, and it is only going to get easier as the server advances because prices are going up.

Have you looked at the horde AH prices on commonly used things?

There is so little auction house activity that people are putting things on there 5-10 silver above vendor prices.

I even got a drop of the 7 stam to bracer enchant earlier.  Fresh into a reset that should be one of the more valuable enchant recipe drops, no?  But you can buy a dozen of them on the AH for less than 1g.  To put that in context, if you got that drop when vanilla WoW was current about 13 years ago, you would have had both of your mounts paid for with 1000g to spare after that dropped for you on most servers.

All of this is because of mount prices.  People have to spend nothing to get their level 40 mounts and then spend nothing some more to get their level 60 mounts, so the economy is pretty much non-existent.

 

Edited December 11, 2017 by Wtbjawpst

[Rozen 0]

I had money for a mount at 40. Sell literally everything. vendor it all unless you know for a fact you can AH it. I reported two gold sellers who were afk sitting next to the mailbox in goldshire. I had a mail in my inbox from each of them with links to go to their gold selling site. I reported it and the GM wanted a screenshot as proof. They were literally afk next to the mailbox yet the GM needs proof.

[Buffavento 0]

i get my mount at lvl 53 . staff should make an ah bot that buys some items from ah. till this run forest run

[Maderek 0]

Use two gathering professions, and auction house literally everything that is not a grey item. Had more than enough gold when I hit level 40, and I didn't need to excessively grind, it was 90-95% questing.

[Shomiehawn 1]

This post is garbage. It is easy to obtain 100g by 40 for mount through grinding, selectively skilling up, and using your brain. IDK what you were smoking with those stats but I want some man.

 

[Zinithin 0]

Even if you do not get 90g by 40, you can just grind a level or two and get it. I mean you have to grind a bit to level anyways. People buy gold because they are lazy or don't have time to play the game. Shouldn't be playing an mmo if you are either of these anyways.

[Nepgear 5]

Casuals...Earn it with hard work, not whining on forum.

[WobLight 5]

Mount is totally optional:

• Paladins, Locks → Free mount
• Rogs → easy golds with pickpocket
• Druids → Travel form
• Shamans → Ghost wolf
• Hunters → Aspect of the cheetah
• Mages → Blink
• Warriors → ... well, they can pair with an hunter I guess ... ? :/

[Garthim 0]

Go. Back. To. Retail.

[Nafro 0]

Wrong.  It's only a problem because people buy it.  If people would just sit back and enjoy the game, which I thought was the point of Vanilla, this problem wouldn't exist.

[shirup1 0]

they have to think that it is a relatively new kingdom, gold is not made alone, it is obtained from missions and from the objects that are sold to the merchants and from there people get to buy at auction all this talking about a new kingdom where even There is more movement of gold I assure you that later gold will not be a problem since the older ones will have enough gold to buy more expensive items sold at the auction and the lower levels will therefore have more gold at their level, they have that give time to the economy of a kingdom

Edited December 22, 2017 by shirup1

[gbalkam 0]

OP is clueless.  Even after Blizzard lowered the requirement from 40/60 to 20/40 and the price to around 10g / 40g there were still gold sellers running rampant.  What finally did kill the gold seller trade was Blizzards competing with them by selling in game gold on the Blizzard home page.   It cut gold sellers off cold because it just wasn't worth farming gold and trying to beat Blizzards prices.  Since gold farmers had to grind out gold and get banned often along the way, and blizzard only had to click a button to generate gold, it became harder to make a profit for gold sellers.    On another private server they do the same.. you pay cash to support the server and you get 5k gold for 5GPB.   Of course players don't have to buy gold, but some are buying it.    So the argument of "flooding the market with gold" doesn't hold water.   SOMEONE is selling gold now.  But at least the server selling it doesn't spam chat channels, whispers and mail boxes.