Leveling a Warrior...

[Undertanker 88]

5 hours ago, Kodesterx said:

I'm leveling as 2H Fury (using Nocturn's spec) level 50 atm.

I just got the 2H mace from Princess in Maraudon. Should I use it or stick with the Whirlwind axe? They seem to hit about the same.

Whirlwind Axe vs Princess Theradras' Scepter     "They hit about the same".     Scepter has a 23.37% higher top end damage than Whirlwind Axe, and a 30.6% higher average DPS.    These numbers are huge in difference and 5% axe specialization doesn't make up for it.     Vendor your Whirlwind Axe.

[Jeetee 2]

10 hours ago, Kodesterx said:

I'm leveling as 2H Fury (using Nocturn's spec) level 50 atm.

I just got the 2H mace from Princess in Maraudon. Should I use it or stick with the Whirlwind axe? They seem to hit about the same.

How is this a real question?  Are you too lazy to even think about it.     Next, you will be asking for a leveling bis gear guide.....

[Kodesterx 0]

5 hours ago, Undertanker said:

Whirlwind Axe vs Princess Theradras' Scepter     "They hit about the same".     Scepter has a 23.37% higher top end damage than Whirlwind Axe, and a 30.6% higher average DPS.    These numbers are huge in difference and 5% axe specialization doesn't make up for it.     Vendor your Whirlwind Axe.

As I said I'm 2H fury I do not have axe spec. Thanks for the answer though. I'm new to warrior and wasn't sure if the strength/speed on the axe was better.

52 minutes ago, Jeetee said:

How is this a real question?  Are you too lazy to even think about it.     Next, you will be asking for a leveling bis gear guide.....

Always love being criticized for asking a question and seeking knowledge about a subject I know little about.

[Vilius 1]

Figuring out whether an item is an upgrade in vanilla can be tough, but there are some tricks you can learn.  Here's a simplified way to compare these two:

Whirlwind Axe: 35.6 dps, +15 str

Scepter: 46.5 dps

For warriors, 1 str = 2 ap, and 14 ap = 1 dps.  So ww axe str bonus gives an extra ~2.1 dps.  Scepter is a clear upgrade even without counting the proc.  Of course there's a lot more to the math, like weapon speed, but it's kinda moot when the items are that far apart.

[Undertanker 88]

11 hours ago, Vilius said:

14 ap = 1 dps.

We are not feral druids.

[KonigsTiger 2]

lvl 47, currently using Rockpounder (stoneslayer never dropped) . I was thiking about buying warmonger (if I can get it for like 25g) The weapon damage is lower, but it has high dps and 3% incresed chance to hit, which I think it´s really nice for arms. Im not sure I would re spec to Swrod specialization though, since I would probably replace it for the ice barbed spear later.

Speaking of which, how hard is it to get the spear on this server? a friend told me it´s really hard, but I have seen many people with it. 

Edited February 3, 2017 by KonigsTiger

[Vilius 1]

On 1/31/2017 at 2:18 AM, Undertanker said:

We are not feral druids.

14 ap = 1 dps is correct and easily checked in game.  Open your warrior character sheet, hover mouse over number next to "Power" under heading "Melee Attack", and divide that number by the dps rating listed in that tooltip.  It will always come out to 14 (or just under due to rounding).  The amount of misinformation around here is just shocking to me.

[Ashocck 0]

For all those who are still wondering about the usefulness of TM, without it you will be perpetually kited by ranged classes, because you won't be able to Intercept. This is warrior 101. If you are not on a PVE server, it is a MUST for any type of PVP. Period.

Edited February 3, 2017 by Ashocck

[Godjul 0]

What about spells? What spells do you train and what spells do you leave untill you reach 60?

[KonigsTiger 2]

On 12/2/2017 at 10:16 AM, Godjul said:

What about spells? What spells do you train and what spells do you leave untill you reach 60?

I made a thread about it, search a little bit. 

[Misunderstood_Tauren 0]

Ok so, I recently specced into 2h arms at level 40, Here is my experience in relation to having leveled as fury 2h throughout my warrior career.

1. The leveling experience is DREADFUL, with arms my DPS during questing was sometimes on average HALF of what it was during Fury (and this is without bloodthirst). Its painful just watching myself do white damage with the occasional MISS until i had enough rage to dump MS... Sooo boring

2. I dont do BGs, but in Wpvp i saw no real significant difference in my encounters. Those who say tactical mastery makes a difference, i say what difference? When leveling as fury 2h i was always in zerker stance anyways, and i had imp intercept, some would argue this gives you a bigger push against ranged classes.

3. In dungeons (which make up a small percentage of the leveling experience) my arms dps was top of the charts during MULTI-TARGET fights, however, during single target i was trailing most dps classes...

4. All in all, arms vs fury means a longer leveling experience and albeit more boring. Because you cant rely on fury talents that offer base dmg increases. I found no benefit in wPvp to arms > fury. And fury single target dmg trumps arms in almost all occasions for me. If you're on the fence, take it from me, stick with fury.

[Jeetee 2]

 Cleave farming/grinding is the only reason to go arms.  If you don't abuse it you should spec fury.  Leveled both ways multiple times, both are fine.

[Ashocck 0]

11 hours ago, Misunderstood_Tauren said:

Ok so, I recently specced into 2h arms at level 40, Here is my experience in relation to having leveled as fury 2h throughout my warrior career.

1. The leveling experience is DREADFUL, with arms my DPS during questing was sometimes on average HALF of what it was during Fury (and this is without bloodthirst). Its painful just watching myself do white damage with the occasional MISS until i had enough rage to dump MS... Sooo boring

2. I dont do BGs, but in Wpvp i saw no real significant difference in my encounters. Those who say tactical mastery makes a difference, i say what difference? When leveling as fury 2h i was always in zerker stance anyways, and i had imp intercept, some would argue this gives you a bigger push against ranged classes.

3. In dungeons (which make up a small percentage of the leveling experience) my arms dps was top of the charts during MULTI-TARGET fights, however, during single target i was trailing most dps classes...

4. All in all, arms vs fury means a longer leveling experience and albeit more boring. Because you cant rely on fury talents that offer base dmg increases. I found no benefit in wPvp to arms > fury. And fury single target dmg trumps arms in almost all occasions for me. If you're on the fence, take it from me, stick with fury.

If you stay in zerker, then you don't have charge available to you. Also, you don't have overpower. Sure you can switch stances for it, but then you have no rage. This is pretty basic stuff.

[Misunderstood_Tauren 0]

The idea of a fury build is to stay in zerker stance for maximum dps.

Staying in zerker stance also allows me to have more access  to imp intercept, and the rage i lose from not switching from battle stance after charging can come from imp zerker rage which gives me 10 extra rage every 30 seconds,

Edited February 17, 2017 by Misunderstood_Tauren

[Ashocck 0]

6 minutes ago, Misunderstood_Tauren said:

The idea of a fury build is to stay in zerker stance for maximum dps.

Staying in zerker stance also allows me to have more access  to imp intercept, and the rage i lose from not switching from battle stance after charging can come from imp zerker rage which gives me 10 extra rage every 30 seconds,

This is all good, however you still don't have charge and by the time you switch stances and hit zerker rage, your OP window is often gone. 

BTW, I played 2h fury on my retail vanilla warrior and will possibly do that here also, but not before I have enough talent points to get TM after getting my 31 in Fury. Depends on how much I decide to pvp.

[Misunderstood_Tauren 0]

5 hours ago, Ashocck said:

This is all good, however you still don't have charge and by the time you switch stances and hit zerker rage, your OP window is often gone. 

BTW, I played 2h fury on my retail vanilla warrior and will possibly do that here also, but not before I have enough talent points to get TM after getting my 31 in Fury. Depends on how much I decide to pvp.

Ya as fury, you just have to accept that overpower will not be in your arsenal. Arms has its benefits for sure, It just doesnt seem to suit my fancy. And TM has provided a bit more utility / engagement for me then /sit and wait for whirlwind.

[Volkrisse 0]

On 11/18/2016 at 4:05 PM, Aquamaria said:

Here's an alternate take on leveling a warrior up until level 40. I level all my warrior as protection... You all probably think that's crazy, but you should hear me out.

 

 

 

 

Leveling with a few key talents from the protection tree gives me nearly zero downtime, a lot higher survivability and it makes my class a lot less worse in PvP before level 36. In my experience I actually gain quite a bit more experience an hour aswell. 

 

 

 

 

 

You all know the horrible grind from level 1-36 as a warrior. We play hoping that the RNG won't make us miss the next hit. We constantly run away from mobs and we die A LOT. Prior to getting our first instant ability at level 36 all we can do is auto-attack the mobs.

 

 

 

 

 

If you look at the talents improved shield block and improved revenge from the protection tree you should be able to envision yourself having a lot higher survivability. With a shield and two guaranteed blocks plus a 45% chance of stunning the mob every fifth second I get very close to having zero downtime while grinding mobs. I can even take on 3-4 of them at a time without being worried I'll die. I'll post a video of my character leveling in stranglethorn valley down below to give you guys a demonstration. And by the way, being jumped by a rogue with these talents is no longer any threat as I mitigate all their damage. I love watching them break themselves upon my shield.

 

 

 

 

 

In the video I have a Silverblade with a fiery enchant and shield spikes on, which boosts my damage quite a bit, but prior to getting those items I still leveled quite a bit faster as protection as opposed to wielding a two-hander. If you get Meteor Shard/Silverblade and shield spikes on your shield your damage will increase by a lot. If you have the gold to get a fiery weapon enchant and shadow oil aswell you'll fly through the mid-levels as if they were nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

Appologies about the cheesy music. When I taped it I wanted to show off to a friend so I put on a dramatic song.

 

 

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/zyzxj8ZgRzw

 

Hey Aqua, do you have your skill tree up somewhere that I could take a look at?

[Aquamaria 1]

Here you go. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LZZxbus
After getting these talents you put the rest in fury as you normally would.