Legacy needed more than ever, Legion has failed.

[maverick 11]

Blizzard shill, confirmed.  "I love legion so much, I'm on Elysium forums eagerly waiting for Vanilla to come!"

ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahah

[MadAxeThrower 0]

Group finder in wrath was the beginning of the end for wow.

 

Pretty much this + grind to gear-quality ratio being lowered dramatically, it really set the game off balance, and I don't think it's ever been even close to revert itself back to the stable levels of Vanilla/BC.

 

I just don't think that Blizzard ever realized the delicate balance that a "Theme Park" MMORPG has, and how easily it can be ruined by what at first would seem like small "helpful" changes.

[Undertanker 88]

Just gonna throw this out there:

 

A retail streamer in a video was talking about making the harder raids more "accessible to people with lower i-lvls".    Somebody suggested, just get into a guild.

 

The majority of the people including the streamer referred to it as a "social issue".

 

Today I learned guilds create a "social issue" when you are playing an MMO.

Edited November 21, 2016 by Undertanker

[MadAxeThrower 0]

Just gonna throw this out there:

 

A retail streamer in a video was talking about making the harder raids more "accessible to people with lower i-lvls".    Somebody suggested, just get into a guild.

 

The majority of the people including the streamer referred to it as a "social issue".

 

Today I learned guilds create a "social issue" when you are playing an MMO.

 

LOL! XD

[Draegon 1]

in all honesty they should just make WoW a single player game nowadays -.- it basically is already.

But i like playing with my self.

[Utherael 3]

in all honesty they should just make WoW a single player game nowadays -.- it basically is already.

Not before they release the console version.

[tjillin 1]

I don't know what's going on with their realm graph so I'll stick to this one: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyactivity.php?serverid=-1

 

Don't look at the numbers, but realize this: on the left is the end of WoD, the peak is the start of Legion. On the right you can see the current amount of players is close to what it was at the end of WoD. 

 

I don't hate Legion at all but even I don't feel like logging in anymore. Everything is RNG and RNGsus hates me. On top of that cheaters get to keep their ill gained ap. I'm so far behind now and there's nothing I can do. I could try to play 'more' but it doesn't guarantee anything at all. Now if I was at the end game I could understand, but I'm not by far because RNG doesn't want to give me upgrades in any shape or form.

 

Legion is insanely demoralizing, spoken from experience.

 

So I can't wait for Nost to be back again ^^. I may not have all the time in the world to level but at least I get as much out of the game as I put in.

[Tefnek 2]

Lol man, I play also on Sargeras and it's a dead server. The only thing that save low pop server like this is the phasing with other servers, it make you feel that there's a lot of people everywhere but it's not that (And don't talk about the 75%h / 25%a)... The only 2 "full" servers are Hyjal and Archimonde.

 

Edit : And thanks to the LFR/LFD system for having "no trouble finding people to play with".

 

http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/sargeras

 

"Dead Server"

709 Registered Raiding Guilds

28,000+ Active Players.

 

"Dead Server"

 

You obviously live under a rock or don't play on Sargeras.

[slatina 1]

 

Blizzard,http://files.shareholder.com/downloa..._Tables_vF.pdf

 

Take note of "On August 30, 2016, Blizzard launched World of Warcraft: Legion, which sold through 3.3 million

copies on day one, matching all‐time records achieved by previous expansions, and ranking

amongst the fastest‐selling PC games ever. The new expansion grew franchise MAUsA by nearly

30% quarter‐over‐quarter."

 

Also take note of this "Blizzard’s World of Warcraft: Legion expansion drove record monthly participation in value‐

added services."

 

That last statement I posted refers to in-game store bought crap. The game is currently at around 3.3million players and blizzard is making sure to milk Legion tools via in game stores.

 

This is why Legacy needs to come back, since the only way to stop the bleeding is to bring Legacy.

 

Take special note that no wow expansions since TBC/Wrath has ever had more subs than the open month of the expac!

 

Lets be kind and assume a few hundred thousand people more bought the game, why did Blizzard mention that for the September 30th report?  I suspect because it would be a lower total number than day one.  Guys Legion has failed, Legacy is more needed now than ever before!

 

 

Edit;

 

I suspect the 2m-3 million tools that wow probably has now will never leave.  They will only be given more promises of content and more in game "services" to milk and double dip the remaining players. So the game is effectively dead, those 2-3m players will never leave and the game will not have a new play pool to draw on.  RIP, WOW was its own killer.  

 

agreed

[Vraul Jawrip 0]

Hopefully WoD will never be repeated.

[Articuno 0]

Legion was really fun for the first 1-2 months. I loved the story, liked the new zones, artifact questlines, class order campaigns and so on. But after finishing all of this once, I can't even force myself to log in again.

 

It was like a really good movie. Very fun to experience once, and maybe once again to get all the little details, but not something you would watch 20 times in a row.

[kegboy 8]

modern wow players are stay at home dads and soccer moms. they are our enemy and should be welcomed onto this server. anyone who admits to still playing retail or enjoying it should have a permanent badge added to their forum profile 

[gotmilk0112 10]

I personally don't like this game, therefore it has failed and/or is "dead"

 

I'll never understand this mentality.

Edited November 22, 2016 by gotmilk0112

[Aituul 0]

I didn't like WoD personally and legion just seems like more of the same, but with worse class design. Excited for nost return though, stress test was fun, can't wait for the release. 

[apz 0]

Atleast the pvp was a good warmup with getting killed in 3 sec. But there is less stuns and фекал in vanilla. Not sure how u can see how many that is active in legion this far. I mean, I have 4 110 on silvermoon EU. I'm pretty casual in my old raiding guild. Still, tanked EN on normal on 1 char and have cleared it on hc on another, meaning u cant even see it that way. Guess only way to get a decent idea would be to check how many that have killed anything on nytchic or got prestige 1+

[soulzek 3]

it certainly hasnt failed in terms of $$$, which is how success is measured in a business.

[szuszak 2]

i still have like 2 or 3 months running in legion from tokens

but i haven't logged in over a month or two

i cant stand the oversimplifications of classes

the forced ap grind

all there is left in classes are rotations

tbh i dont give a flying вау about rotations

i dont mind a 1 button macro rotation

what i mind is lack of any skills outside of that rotation

i mind the oversimplification

stance dancing removed traps removed(well supposedly they are bringing 1 or two traps back i dont rly care anymore)

there was nothing wrong with using lower rank spells , its called mastering your ваууing class

you do those things because they are part of the class mastery

that фекал is gone its all horribly homogenized

all all that garbage stuff from diablo 3 making its way into wow

that game just pisses me off now

i had more fun in wod than i had in legion (even if i quit wod before tannan jungle as well)

 

also the servers arent empty because of xrealm thingie, you will see ppl from other servers running in your quest areas etc , and tbh i dont mind that it does make the world more alive (if not slightly crowded especially on some of the wq when its in tiny area with lots of objectives , like the one with dryads monkins and imps i ваууing hated that wq with passion)

Edited December 3, 2016 by szuszak

[szuszak 2]

I don't know what's going on with their realm graph so I'll stick to this one: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyactivity.php?serverid=-1

 

Don't look at the numbers, but realize this: on the left is the end of WoD, the peak is the start of Legion. On the right you can see the current amount of players is close to what it was at the end of WoD. 

 

I don't hate Legion at all but even I don't feel like logging in anymore. Everything is RNG and RNGsus hates me. On top of that cheaters get to keep their ill gained ap. I'm so far behind now and there's nothing I can do. I could try to play 'more' but it doesn't guarantee anything at all. Now if I was at the end game I could understand, but I'm not by far because RNG doesn't want to give me upgrades in any shape or form.

 

Legion is insanely demoralizing, spoken from experience.

 

So I can't wait for Nost to be back again ^^. I may not have all the time in the world to level but at least I get as much out of the game as I put in.

 

and this is sooo true

i don't understand why but the demoralizing part is spot on

i mean there is фекал to do

i just dont have fun while doing it

and no i wants burned out i started playing on some romanian mop server and it was fun (but i rather play vanilla)

[Undertanker 88]

i mean there is фекал to do

i just dont have fun while doing it