Playing tank/healer while leveling?

[MisterRay 0]

Hi all!

 

As far as I have understood, there are no dual-spec, right? To respec, it costs a lot of money?

 

Anyway, if that is the case, then how do people level from 1-60 when they, i.e., want to play a healer and also do (low level) dungeons as a healer but I strongly assume that leveling a healer from scratch will take ages as you lack damage throughout the whole leveling process.

 

Same maybe applies to tanks? How is this best managed?

 

Thanks,

Ray

[SikSan 4]

As a tank or healer you will be top 1,2 wanted char for the dungeons. Sometimes ppl getting so desperate so can even pay you for a run. And btw, vanilla is all about social interactions. So it's not that hard to lvl within a group.  Making some rep and a couple of friends is solving any grind/lvling issues whatever class you're playing

Edited November 25, 2016 by SikSan

[Undertanker 88]

No Duel-Spec.

 

Respec cost increase which each time you do it up to a cap of 50g which is a lot of money, considering farming at level 60, average player gets 30-45 gold per hour (others can get more).

 

You can tank with your dps leveling spec with pally/druid/warrior in 5 mans.  Stam gear helps where put it in the bank if you don't need it for questing.

 

You can heal in any spec as well.  Have a gear set with +int / spirit depending on your class (pally won't need as much spirit as druid / priest).  After you are done with your 5 man, put it back in the bank.

[MisterRay 0]

So it is recommended to just have a set of gear for each situation, i.e. dps gear leveling, healing/tanking gear dungeons, and as soon as I reach level 60, I respec to the respective skill? For example, I want to be a healer, I just level with dps spec to 60 and then respec?

[Holkan 13]

You can tank and heal as off specs just collect gear along the way for what you want to do. Also you probably don't want to let people know you're the off spec just to avoid being kicked out or hearing complaints from people who fail to understand that.

[rprimora 0]

There is a ingame feature called grouping...no seriously, you have to group if you want to level faster. I myself am a holy priest and leveling for me on my own is so freaking slow but if I get into a group with someone else than it's just bang! bang! bang!

 

Look at it this way, if you are leveling slower it just means you get to enjoy the game at a slower pace and appreciate everything even more. Fast leveling and dual spec is for sissies anyway.

 

P.S. To the NostEly team - Do not nerf respec fee. Like ever cos that should keep of newbs from the server.

[SikSan 4]

You can tank and heal as off specs just collect gear along the way for what you want to do. Also you probably don't want to let people know you're the off spec just to avoid being kicked out or hearing complaints from people who fail to understand that.

I guess,  you'll be struggilng to heal in dps spec since around lvl 40. At least ppl rather gonna look for a full healer/tank than a dps with heal/tank items

[MisterRay 0]

Thanks guys for the input. I have mixed feelings about this now ... 

 

What do you recommend if I want to be a healer? From level 1-60? What's the best way to level and also play my favorite role?

 

EDIT: It is still sort of confusing to me, sorry

Edited November 25, 2016 by MisterRay

[Undertanker 88]

So it is recommended to just have a set of gear for each situation, i.e. dps gear leveling, healing/tanking gear dungeons, and as soon as I reach level 60, I respec to the respective skill? For example, I want to be a healer, I just level with dps spec to 60 and then respec?

 

Yes or maybe around level 58/59 if you get invites for 5 mans.

[Undertanker 88]

Don't be worried about the people saying it is hard or you would get kicked.   Most of the raw + healing talents are further down the talent trees.   The difference you'll see in low and mid level 5 mans is that you may have to drink a bit more between pulls.

[MisterRay 0]

Yes or maybe around level 58/59 if you get invites for 5 mans.

 

Okay, this is now clear for me. Thanks

[MisterRay 0]

Don't be worried about the people saying it is hard or you would get kicked.   Most of the raw + healing talents are further down the talent trees.   The difference you'll see in low and mid level 5 mans is that you may have to drink a bit more between pulls.

 

I see. So as mentioned earlier: I go full dps but collect healing gear, that I use in dungeons. At level 60, I just "throw away" the dps gear and go full healing - skill tree + gear?

[Undertanker 88]

Also don't spam instances for experience, it is terrible exp per hour compared to soloing even with the weakest solo classes by atleast 2x slower.  Do instances when you got a good amount of quest for that 5 man.

 

Level as dps spec, since you'll spend 150-170 hours grinding and questing vs 15-30 hours in 5 mans at MOST.

[Undertanker 88]

I see. So as mentioned earlier: I go full dps but collect healing gear, that I use in dungeons. At level 60, I just "throw away" the dps gear and go full healing - skill tree + gear?

 

You may want to bank any decent DPS gear you get for when you farm solo.    There are low level *30-40 that level 60s farm for raid mats so even if you are a pure healer or tank you can still farm effectively.   Or if you are a gatherer, helps too w/o making a difference of spec too much.

[MisterRay 0]

Damn, so different from the newest WoW expansions ... thanks a lot for your help!

[arbet 9]

Since you're not locked into any skill trees, your ability to heal/tank is mostly dependent on skill + gear, especially at early levels where you're barely into the skill tree. You can spec Arms warrior and chuck some stamina-heavy gear on and you'll be OK. Equally healing power is determined by intellect which you need whether you're DPS or healing. The only real difficulty would be if you were trying to level as an enhancement shaman but and heal in dungeons, or even worse wanted to level in Cat/Bear as druid but wanted to heal.

 

Alternatively you can be a healer in grouping.

 

I personally, spec into tanking tree all the way, I have less damage output when levelling but I can take more hits so it's OK, and it means in a dungeon I'd be adequately equipped for it. But the game is pretty flexible while you're levelling, you can do different roles with the same talents.

[cryofsorrow 5]

If you happen to roll a healing class, don't worry about healing in dps spec up to level 58 when you are eligible for all the end game 5man instances and it'll be thoughtful if you respec Holy/Restoration. Just make sure you have different ranks of heal spells hotkeyed and play around them. As Priest Heal Rank 1, Rank 2 and Heal max rank for the current level are your most efficient heal spells aside from Greater Heal but that costs too much mana for the little mana pool you'll have. That's how priests work, I'm pretty sure other healing classes won't differ in that matter too much. I can go on with Priest mana efficiency if you happen to roll Priest and need some tips.

I leveled a warrior up to level 34 and I didn't have any problem tanking low level 5mans as mix of fury/arms spec, no clue if it changes much untill you hit 60.

[MisterRay 0]

If you happen to roll a healing class, don't worry about healing in dps spec up to level 58 when you are eligible for all the end game 5man instances and it'll be thoughtful if you respec Holy/Restoration. Just make sure you have different ranks of heal spells hotkeyed and play around them. As Priest Heal Rank 1, Rank 2 and Heal max rank for the current level are your most efficient heal spells aside from Greater Heal but that costs too much mana for the little mana pool you'll have. That's how priests work, I'm pretty sure other healing classes won't differ in that matter too much. I can go on with Priest mana efficiency if you happen to roll Priest and need some tips.

I leveled a warrior up to level 34 and I didn't have any problem tanking low level 5mans as mix of fury/arms spec, no clue if it changes much untill you hit 60.

 

So let's say I play a priest, go for the shadow spec while having a mix of skilling in dps and healing. At around level 58, it will be hard to heal in such dungeons as I need to go full healing spec. Let's also say I respec completely but then I will struggle leveling from 58-60, no?

 

Since I know that changing specs is expensive, then I really want to avoid unnecessary mistakes since start

[Undertanker 88]

Go to the priest section of the forum for your leveling talents guide.

You are over thinking the healing concerns. You will be fine

[Tholren 7]

If you make a name for yourself right off the bat as a decent tank/healer, I promise people will not only invite you back to their groups, they will seek out to level alongside you, so that you can do the next set of dungeons with them.

[gotmilk0112 10]

In leveling dungeons, you do NOT need to be healing spec or tank spec, to heal or tank.

 

You can heal dungeons as a Shadow priest, and tank dungeons as a Fury warrior.

 

You don't *need* to be a proper spec until max level.

[killerduki 54]

Honestly , in my runs = kick if you don't heal as Healing Spec or if you don't tank as Tank Spec .

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Tholren 7]

Honestly , in my runs = kick if you don't heal as Healing Spec or if you don't tank as Tank Spec .

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

Why? If it looks stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.

[killerduki 54]

Why? If it looks stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.

 

I understand that you can do the job,  but won't be efficient on that position , as spriest id rather take you as DPS or as retri paladin or as feral.

In my runs i want smooth runs like silk and to enjoy on the Spec given .

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited November 25, 2016 by killerduki

[Tholren 7]

I understand that you can do the job,  but won't be efficient on that position , as spriest id rather take you as DPS or as retri paladin or as feral.

In my runs i want smooth runs like silk and to enjoy on the Spec given .

 

/Kind regards Killerduki

I can respect that, it depends on the other members of your group, I suppose. For the lower tier dungeons I don't think it matters much, to be honest. Assuming people aren't absolute potatoes.