Boomkin raiding?

[Milton 0]

Is boomy viable for raids?

Edited December 29, 2016 by Milton

[Ayruslol 1]

no

 

Best Regards

[Muscul 0]

Unfortunately no.

[mrcer 8]

With the right gear, Boomkin & Feral(kitty) can be devastating in PvP.

As far as Druids go for Raid slots, Most guilds would only allow up to 1 Druid Tank but is very gear dependent in early release. Then you'll typically have up to 2 Druid Healers in Raids.

Unless you join a very casual guild, you will not be DPSing as a Druid. If you do end up joining a Guild as a druid DPS; you will find yourself doing very limited DPS even with perfect gear/consumables/buffs. 

[Milton 0]

What about healing then? Can I heal with this spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0toxhMEstZVxco or does it require more talents in resto?

[Ayruslol 1]

28 minutes ago, Milton said:

What about healing then? Can I heal with this spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0toxhMEstZVxco or does it require more talents in resto?

no

 

Best regards

[mrcer 8]

1 hour ago, Milton said:

What about healing then? Can I heal with this spec http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0toxhMEstZVxco or does it require more talents in resto?

Restoration Druids are good healers, but by no means are the strongest healers in the game. For raids, you need to be using a solid Healing Spec, not a Hybrid Healing spec. For 5 mans, do whatever you want.

[WTFBoomkin 1]

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Boomkins can raid, but you had damn well be ready to A)  Get laughed at.  B)  Have mages yell at you for rolling on *their* gear  C) Bring consumables.  Being a boomkin pre-ZG was a really tough gig, but it gets easier after you get bloodvine and some more +hit items.  It's always gonna be a labor of love, so don't even bother if you're not REALLY committed to playing one.

 

[Milton 0]

6 hours ago, WTFBoomkin said:

 

I never raided in vanilla but I think I learn fast. And if I'm gonna main a boomy I will be dedicated to that toon.

[Undertanker 88]

But will your guild be dedicated to your boomkin?

[Geston 15]

5 hours ago, Undertanker said:

But will your guild be dedicated to your boomkin?

Basically this. You can technically raid as whatever spec you want if your guild allows it.

But for the most part as everyone as said, dps druids are not really a thing in vanilla raiding. And unlike shadow priests who bring a great buff to raids, the boomkin crit buff can actually be a detriment due to how crits work with threat, causing more downtime for your casters.

[Undertanker 88]

A BiS Skiiled Boomkin will pull around 400 DPS in Naxx on a tank and spank boss, vs a mage whom will do 1,100 and contribute to the rolling ignite process.   Your 3% crit buff doesn't make up that difference.  So you should also have an MP/5 set for any fight that requires a decurse. This freeze up a mage or restro druid to continue to do their main job with minimal dps loss.  Having versatility in situations like these is what will carry your weight throughout a raid.

A feral druid in BiS can pull around 560 DPS average dps on a tank and spank in naxx, and still be available for off tanking, freeing up an entire slot for an additional pure DPS instead of bringing another prot warrior, while still have the same extended utility to the raid of decurse bot with MP/5 set and so on.

 

IMO there is room in a raid for 1 boomkin in a 4x mage group.  And 1 ret pally whom does blessing of might to melee, swings nightfall.  If you have these two in raid and you wiped on a boss, it isn't because these two were in your raid.  You got other issues, and looking for an easy out of whom to blame.

Edited January 4, 2017 by Undertanker

[Rafale 6]

On 29/12/2016 at 4:21 PM, mrcer said:

Restoration Druids are good healers, but by no means are the strongest healers in the game. For raids, you need to be using a solid Healing Spec, not a Hybrid Healing spec. For 5 mans, do whatever you want.

Lol look the first heal

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Ranking.aspx?Bosses=00010203040506070809&realm=All

[Duality 4]

There are several ways to top a meter like that. For instance have a warlock constantly lifetap with hots running on him. Secondly, that druid plays on K2 where the raids are scaled differently than Elysium.
But regardless, druids can be exceptional healers if they're played to their full potential. Don't be surprised if u see several druids in top10 HPS on MC and BWL in the future. However, druids don't scale as well as other classes moving into Naxx.

When judging healers by meter it's also worth to mention that the paladin who is doing 'judgement of light' will in most cases top meters. This obviously doesn't reflect the paladin as a healing class since only 1 or 2 get to judge light. 4-5 paladins are also required to do 'blessing of light' on the entire raid which boosts the paladins healing greatly. If your raid doesn't have that amount of pallys their healing will downscale accordingly. 

In conclusion: personal skill, encounter knowledge and raid-setup plays a great role in determining which classes are strong and weak.

Edited January 6, 2017 by Duality

[mbee 4]

On 12/29/2016 at 7:59 AM, Milton said:

Is boomy viable for raids?

It depends on several things - are you in a good guild, is everything on farm, are you the ultimate tryhard (farming ALL consumables for all fights).

For AQ-above, Boomkins can be viable if your raid is killing everything quickly - as the fights get longer, Boomkins don't do as well. If your guild has everything on farm and they don't mind giving you gear normally coveted by Mages & Warlocks, that helps. Boomkins need near-BiS gear to even be competitive on the damage meters, and even then you will have constant mana issues.

There's a good thread here

[Undertanker 88]

On 1/6/2017 at 9:56 AM, Duality said:

However, druids don't scale as well as other classes moving into Naxx.

Druids scale better than other healing classes because their cast times compared to other class allow for a greater coefficient % benefit.   Also in AQ40/Naxx there is more frequent periodic raid damage than BWL/MC therefore their HoTs are utilized much more on raid healing.

[Kazgarul 1]

In my guild on Kronos we had 1 feral druid in our raid to act as an off tank or DPS when required. He was also useful to dispell and for a little bit of healing here and there. It was probably only "viable" to have him because everyone had Dire Maul gear with buffed (Naxx I think?) stats. Either way, it was very useful to have someone who could fulfill a variety of roles when necessary but I don't think it would have been viable in anything after Naxx. At the time it was a very interesting dynamic and it probably saved a lot of time and effort for a smaller guild like ours.

[taladril 43]

It's definitely viable. It's what I'm doing right now. But you either need to wait to get gear to do it or have it fed to you, depending on the guild style.

[Asherdoom 5]

people talk of dps meters in vanilla lol

boomkin can:

-extra innervate for healers without sacrifice the resto druids one

-additional combat ress which no dps can do

-using consumalbes can do a nice dps

 

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for the PVE guide i leave this link here

http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/81946-moonkin-naxx-raider-1115-amalogsetc/

 

p.s. dont listen on ragers most ppl here never raided as boomkin nor even rolled a druid.

 

all the best in your gaming experience!

[mbee 4]

On 1/17/2017 at 10:39 AM, Asherdoom said:

boomkin can:

-extra innervate for healers without sacrifice the resto druids one

I'm not sure how realistic it will be for a Boomkin to save their Innervate for the Priests, when Boomkin has severe mana issues themselves. Unless you don't mind having your Boomkin spam R1 Starfire the whole fight, just so your Priest can be a God of healing...it's more realistic to save the Resto Druids for this purpose - their mana issues are not so bad, especially if they have 3-piece T2 and a decent trinket like Shard of the Scale, Rejuv Gem or the Blue Dragon trinket.

[Asherdoom 5]

Mbee like all classes a moonkin raider brong pots runes and consumables. like all casters do

[Niceclaw 0]

It's sad too see all kinds of losers  trying to bum you out for playing your favorite class.I guess people just like jumping on the Druid bashing wagon for no other reason then to feel like a superior know-it-all.Definitely makes WoW way less enjoyable.

Edited January 27, 2017 by Niceclaw

[Garun 9]

On ‎1‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 10:32 AM, Niceclaw said:

It's sad too see all kinds of losers  trying to bum you out for playing your favorite class.I guess people just like jumping on the Druid bashing wagon for no other reason then to feel like a superior know-it-all.Definitely makes WoW way less enjoyable.

Apparently BwL is srs bzns with 1.12 talents and over a decade of people knowing the fights.