Calling out Alexensual

[Norbit 2]

I can't contain it any longer. The world must know.

 

[Zosyn 8]

OMGosh! This is EXACTLY what i've been telling the Barrens for the past week! This guy subscribes to popular youtubers who do their OWN homework on reading forums and are legitimately informed on WoW mechanics. Then he pops his video and is a parrot, repeating buzzwords of what those people say, and he tries so hard to sound authentic. Here is my three-step plan that I have shared with Barrens, but wish to share with entire community now:

#1) Please shut down your twitch. 

#2) Daily Quest: Check your privilege.

#3) Repeat Daily Quest.

[aeruwynn 3]

"why can't you be more like alexensual"

[gashole 7]

 

 

[Zosyn 8]

 

[Zosyn 8]

world pvp: 17 hunter vs 25 dudu. Guess which one is our self-proclaimed expert teaching us how to play vanilla and dictating what classes belong in the game:

 

[Porta 10]

Dank ads

[cargalia 2]

Alex stop making videos.

[ValarMorghulis 2]

Honestly, everyone saying "dudu", "shammy", "pally" should go back to the kindergarten and stop talking about WoW. No, I'm not referring to Alex ;)

And on the topic, I'm not trying to defend him or say he is perfect. But he is doing stuff some people enjoy or maybe learn from and probably contributing more to the community than any of you criticising him ever will. If you have issues with that yet still keep watching him, then I think it's probably some kind of mental condition already. Don't watch Alex if you don't like his content - why would you torture yourself like that? 

[Riceforlife 1]

hes a trend follower, its how most of you tube is."I don't hate" but I would rather be alone watching myself stream then to ever step 10 mins into his lol .

[Zosyn 8]

On 1/24/2017 at 9:53 AM, ValarMorghulis said:

But he is doing stuff some people enjoy or maybe learn from and probably contributing more to the community than any of you criticising him ever will.

Hi ValarMorghulis,

I disagree with you on the point that you mentioned that he is contributing to the community.

The content in his videos makes people on this server adapt a negative attitude towards many things. First of all, the versatile classes such as shamans and paladins that he considers trash and unworthy of raiding besides being in healing spec. Then he comes around telling people to play what they enjoy. If a pug cleared MC, why can't a raid that has a handful of ret paladins, feral dudu, spriests, elem shamans, boomkins, arms warriors raid and clear it as well? Vanilla, unlike TBC, has a wide margin of error. Alex's "how to" & "class guides" encourages people to look down upon those classes that I've mentioned. His videos imply to the player that there is 1 and only 1 way of playing the game. Players are developing mentality that any attempt at playing the game in a way different way than described by Alex is a sign of IQ deficit. I have run into so many people during the launch of Elysium in dungeons who are so inflexible because "they've watched or heard alex say so" regarding dungeon strategies to the point where they rather QQ than adapt. I have had people leave group because a dudu is tank rather than healer.

Secondly, he build big big hype and big talk on servers like Nostalrius, Kronos, PlayTBC then comes around and trash talk them. I consider this misleading the viewers. Also, after all the donations that he received courtesy of playing on Nostalrius' creation, he comes around and posts a video titled "F you Nostalrius." The level of immaturity and entitlement in such an unleveled reaction towards the devs that allow us to have lots of fun during our free time is uncalled for.

He is forming a community, but this community is being taught to be very narrow minded.

[Zosyn 8]

IP BAN HIM PLEASE! It's one thing to let someone get away with flaming the server & its staff, spreading bad information about the server & the staff, but now you're allowing him to get away with FINANCIALLY ABUSING you. This sort of behavior should not be acceptable on any server, least to say the most important Vanilla server around. Judgement! Guilty. Ban. Ban. Ban. Exile him to pandaland.

[quest008 0]

1 hour ago, Zosyn said:

IP BAN HIM PLEASE! It's one thing to let someone get away with flaming the server & its staff, spreading bad information about the server & the staff, but now you're allowing him to get away with FINANCIALLY ABUSING you. This sort of behavior should not be acceptable on any server, least to say the most important Vanilla server around. Judgement! Guilty. Ban. Ban. Ban. Exile him to pandaland.

1. It takes only a quick google search to figure out how to change your dynamic IP.

2. Elysium-Project would lose the moral high ground in this drama if they banned him, making them look vindictive and protective of their new partners (some of whom frankly should never have access to the account database, though it has been clarified that they do not). This would also give more fuel to those who lean towards Alexensual's side that there may be some dirty money conspiracy.

3. Both parties in this drama made their mistakes. Alexensual's donation chargeback was reckless and untimely. This gives Elysium-Project the moral high ground, and it would be understandable if they banned him. However, Elysium-Project should have been more transparent with this "Legacy Gaming Network" partnership and explained whether or not their new partners have anything to do with the account database and other sensitive information.

They should wait it out.

[Zosyn 8]

sorry, but if somebody scams me real life money worth $1000, moral high ground will not be the first thing I would be thinking about.

To hell away with him and his community. It's better if the server is purged of them anyway. All of them act entitled and promote a "toxic" environment that is a thorn in the side of the developers who are doing this project in their free time. You know why Rebirth vanilla server shutdown? It's because the devs all got "burnt out" from the stress and volunteer basis of it.

World of Warcraft is a game to everyone. Players and Devs alike. It's not a job.

[quest008 0]

51 minutes ago, Zosyn said:

sorry, but if somebody scams me real life money worth $1000, moral high ground will not be the first thing I would be thinking about.

It will only be considered a scam if and only if Alexensual does not either give back the donations to his donators (so they can donate again directly to Elysium-Project if they choose to) or he apologizes and donates it back to Elysium-Project. That is why they need to wait to see if Alexensual made an honest (though misguided) decision for the chargeback, or if he really did "scam" the money and keeps it all for himself. If he doesn't give back the money to those who donated within a week or so, that is perfect time for Elysium-Project to make a brief public statement about how Alexensual has not refunded the donations to his followers and to ban him.

[Zosyn 8]

very good point. I actually raised this serious issue on the refund to the players here:

 

[illik 0]

If anyone for whatever reason has donated to him... just do what he did... charge back... fuck him over like he fucked the server over.

[Zosyn 8]

http://www.strawpoll.me/12361860/r

vote him out of here