Garradon 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) I'll just assume Tornadari is trolling 4 minutes ago, Tornadari said: Unique players you imbecile, not characters. They were released based on account data. >calls someone an imbecile >is against another server opening when it's next to impossible for like 20k people to even connect with these queues, only argument being "they'd quit anyway". Queue is 11k and is literally not moving because people who are on the server don't wanna lose their spot. It's questionnable if one more server is even gonna be enough to fix this. Might need two servers. Did someone drop you on your head when you were little? Edited January 12, 2017 by Garradon 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Carns said: It's really not, but just keep trying to convince others... maybe you might even find a fool or two. What gives you the impression I care even in the slightest about lowbie ganking. I'll be going for GM again so why would I even begin to mess with my rating. 1 minute ago, Garradon said: I'll just assume Tornadari is trolling >calls someone an imbecile >is against another server opening when it's next to impossible for like 20k people to even connect with these queues, only argument being "they'd quit anyway". Did someone drop you on your head when you were little? 20k Queues? Really? I haven't seen one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturn 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Nocturn said: It also gained tons of popularity in the months before it shut down, leaving many people stranded in the lmiddle of lvling. Fair enough about the point on Unique players, chill though.... My point still stands and don't really get what you're worried about honestly. Like what's your point, you still can't refute the huge player base it has now and the gaining popularity. the funny thing is i can't believe im defending this project so much, im not even that big a fan, but im being real. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garradon 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Tornadari said: What gives you the impression I care even in the slightest about lowbie ganking. I'll be going for GM again so why would I even begin to mess with my rating. 20k Queues? Really? I haven't seen one. Queue is currenly over 11k. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ntbud 14 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Tornadari said: Lowbie ganking isn't a factor. Concentrating end game raiding potential is what I'm mostly concerned with. You can do that with 1-2k active players. You currently have 10k on Nost. Why do you think that the 30k+ people who want nothing to do with playing on the Nost server, have any effect on your potential raiding experience there? Most people committed to playing on Nost are going to stay there. You'll have plenty of people to raid with for the entire life of the server. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Worldstar 36 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Can't tell if OP is retarded or trolling. Going to assume the latter. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nocturn said: Fair enough about the point on Unique players, chill though.... My point still stands and don't really get what you're worried about honestly. Like what's your point, you still can't refute the huge player base it has now and the gaining popularity. the funny thing is i can't believe im defending this project so much, im not even that big a fan, but im being real. My point two things happen when you dilute a playerbase - Player quality goes way down on one server - Player number goes way down. I don't want to have to reroll on whichever server retains the best PvE/PvP populations. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vartis 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 I couldn't be bothered to read every post but when there is 8k people online and 10k+ in queue i see absolutely no reason not to have another server. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ntbud said: You can do that with 1-2k active players. You currently have 10k on Nost. Why do you think that the 30k+ people who want nothing to do with playing on the Nost server, have any effect on your potential raiding experience there? Most people committed to playing on Nost are going to stay there. You'll have plenty of people to raid with for the entire life of the server. That is simply not the case. 1-2k is simply not enough. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nocturn 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Tornadari said: My point two things happen when you dilute a playerbase - Player quality goes way down on one server - Player number goes way down. I don't want to have to reroll on whichever server retains the best PvE/PvP populations. You're right if they announced this months after Elysium. It's a week later, 6 days actually with half the population under lvl 20 or not even have been able to play yet. If they didn't launch another server, MAYBE the queues would go down eventually.... but you're basically not allowing anyone with a work schedule or any other life activities to play on that realm and force them to move on to something else OR everyone just figures out the Queue times, log on before work and sit in there for hours or afk at char select for hours with the problem never being fixed and not addressing the fact the realm already has to many players anyways. Ive repeated this like 5 times today throughout the forums. These servers were never intended for 10K+ population, the literal world itself is too small. You can increase the cap slightly but once you go over 8-9K is just a cluster fuck and definitely not "blizzlike" in any way. Im glad the populations will now be spread. That's perfect, and there's no reason or evidence to suggest it will decrease. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Nocturn said: You're right if they announced this months after Elysium. It's a week later, 6 days actually with half the population under lvl 20 or not even have been able to play yet. If they didn't launch another server, MAYBE the queues would go down eventually.... but you're basically not allowing anyone with a work schedule or any other life activities to play on that realm and force them to move on to something else OR everyone just figures out the Queue times, log on before work and sit in there for hours or afk at char select for hours with the problem never being fixed and not addressing the fact the realm already has to many players anyways. Ive repeated this like 5 times today throughout the forums. These servers were never intended for 10K+ population, the literal world itself is too small. You can increase the cap slightly but once you go over 8-9K is just a cluster fuck and definitely not "blizzlike" in any way. Im glad the populations will now be spread. That's perfect, and there's no reason or evidence to suggest it will decrease. Vanilla WoW launch is perfect evidence. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sogonzo 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 For whatever reason people think it's normal to have 10k+ people on a single server but it's not. It's overkill by a large margin. Even if both servers went down to 3-5k population months from now that would still be a healthy pop. What did high pop blizz servers used to have back in vanilla? Probably not even that much. This idea that a private server needs a lag inducing 10k+ is ridiculous. Populations are going to be fine, trust me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sundanc_r 19 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 retard op i just hope they are also working on a proper anti cheat anti-gold seller solution. this is more important to me 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killershama 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Just going to have to wait in see what tomorrow brings, and I have no doubt it will be beneficial to everyone. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Killershama said: Just going to have to wait in see what tomorrow brings, and I have no doubt it will be beneficial to everyone. The issue it will cause will not be readily apparent for a few months but there will be issues. I for one do not want to have to bother rerolling when the top tier PvE community migrates. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimen 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 Woooow I was in queue since 13:00 and got in now, only to not be able to create a character and getting disconnected. 6h queue for nothing. Can't welcome the new realm enough. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tornadari 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 You realize that won't change even on the new server right. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sundanc_r 19 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 lets make the new server have a 1k pop cap for a good laugh :D 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suhail1200 3 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Tornadari said: No it's not. Server merges will wreck server economies. It's literally not possible to do it without completely tanking any semblance of stability in the player economy. Not to mention faction imbalances. Well if this is the case about economy then they can do what wow warmane have done.Reduce/cut all peoples gold by 50% and it will be stable.Warmane have done it for years and it has worked out nice. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kastle 4 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) So all of this uproar is because Tornadari is afraid the server he chose won't have the population, and guild competition HE wants. Really? Get over yourself btw anyone who's played on other private servers knows you would get excited to see 500-1k people online, saying 1-3k pop is too low is just because you've been spoiled by a year of Nost's 10k overpopulation. The servers are already too crowded, camping mobs to grind from 1-60 wasn't intended nor is it fun. I'd welcome a zone or two with no one in it Edited January 12, 2017 by kastle 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pottu 290 Report post Posted January 12, 2017 People in this thread need to turn off their computers, walk to the nearest animal shelter (you probably need the exercise) and then hug dogs for a while. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
