Rdruid in Vanila PvE

[Cnkl 2]

Hi,

After some very, very long research on Google, and hours spent on reading guides and posts about the PvE resto druid in Vanilla, there's always some points that I'd to know more about because I don't have any PvE experience as a resto in vanilla.

Rdruids are clearly not a popular class in PvE, the comments I could read and the stats on census speak by themselves. By the way, I always loved this class and I still want to give it a try. There's just 3 questions I would like to ask to experienced druids before investing me in my character. Note that I already accepted the fact to not be competitive on the healing meters and I will play Horde.

1. How needed are Rdruids in servers like Nostalrius/Elysium ?
Will I have to fight to get a spot in a raid ? if I plan to join a guild or simply doing pug ? I'm not aiming at joining top elitist guilds that race the 1st downs, those that aim for an healthy and assured progression through all the content is enough for me.

2. How the gamplay really is ?
Usually, I play tank (MT1 essentially) so I love to have lots of things to do which require more than two neurons connected. Does Rdruid could suits this playstyle ? I'm looking for something dynamic. Do the long casting times really kill any feeling of reactive gameplay as a druid ?

3. How Rdruids progress ?
I ask that because I read many contradictory things about how druids evolve through the content. Some said that its getting worse as they climb the tiers content, others that their performances increases with AQ and Naxx items (even if they still not really competitive on the meters).

Thank you for your answers.

Edited January 16, 2017 by Cnkl

[Lorilay 12]

1. Resto druids are in very high demand because it's not a popular class (because of its difficulty to master when leveling, in my opinion). Just looking at the guild forums, most raiding guilds are recruiting druids.

2. Druids have a good variety of play styles depending on your spec. You could be spamming hots and swiftmending, raid healing with regrowth, or casting healing touch infinitely. I've never felt limited by casting times, and druids consistently top the meters in my guild raids.

3. I wouldn't say any particular healing class does better than any other through progression content. If you're willing to use consumables and play smartly, any class will do fine.

[taladril 43]

Resto druids are one of the most sought after classes there is because no one plays them. They fit a nice niche and can do great numbers if you push yourself.

[szuszak 2]

lol rly? not competitive ?

you will be more than fine

HS is very efficient at healing as long as you dont go spamming rejuvs and regrowths you will be a very mana efficient healer

 

but thats not important

what if i told you that you can be fully  resto speced druid with swiftmend

AND you are fully capable of tanking any 5 man content while in that spec?

and that the same spec is perfect for pvp both world and bgs?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0zL0bZxxMoZVgcoeq0o

there is no other class that has this flexibility

Edited January 16, 2017 by szuszak

[Warl0ck 2]

I have watched a few streams, and I see a lot of healing touch spam but almost never a rejuv.  Is that because rejuv isn't efficient?  Or just because all health bars not full will get healed up (and rejuv sniped) for the most part?  If it's the latter, then I expect it would be worth using in 5 mans.

[Lorilay 12]

Watch Casa's stream. He's swiftmend spec and is usually #1 or #2 on our meters. I use a regrowth spec, but don't stream.

[StarecaseXD 0]

50 minutes ago, Lorilay said:

Watch Casa's stream. He's swiftmend spec and is usually #1 or #2 on our meters. I use a regrowth spec, but don't stream.

Link?

[Lorilay 12]

https://www.twitch.tv/casacasa123

[StarecaseXD 0]

53 minutes ago, Lorilay said:

https://www.twitch.tv/casacasa123

Appreciate it fam

[Asherdoom 5]

druids for heling spam healing touch rank 3 or 4 and for emergency NS+HT10

i leave you a resto drood guide here in case for future reference

 

http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/94313-druid-pve-healing-guide/

http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/12549-pve-druid-restoration-guide/

Edited January 17, 2017 by Asherdoom
added second guide

[Lorilay 12]

Those guides are great to follow if you don't want to use consumables and are OK putting out mediocre numbers.

[Warl0ck 2]

4 hours ago, Warl0ck said:

I have watched a few streams, and I see a lot of healing touch spam but almost never a rejuv.  Is that because rejuv isn't efficient?  Or just because all health bars not full will get healed up (and rejuv sniped) for the most part?  If it's the latter, then I expect it would be worth using in 5 mans.

Can I get an answer please?

[taladril 43]

rejuv is great in 5 mans. it's expensive and often not used in raids except for the tanks as people sniping always will win out.

[Lorilay 12]

In our raids there's usually 1-2 people spamming rejuv, so I'm not sure how to answer your question.

[Warl0ck 2]

2 minutes ago, Lorilay said:

In our raids there's usually 1-2 people spamming rejuv, so I'm not sure how to answer your question.

So much snark in this forum.  Thanks for enlightening me though.  I guess the guy I watched is speced differently or doing it wrong.

[Cnkl 2]

14 hours ago, Lorilay said:

Those guides are great to follow if you don't want to use consumables and are OK putting out mediocre numbers.

So, healing touch based spec with nature's grace isn't worth to take ?

Edited January 18, 2017 by Cnkl

[meridaw 11]

5 minutes ago, Cnkl said:

So, healing touch based spec with nature's grace aren't worth to take ?

sure it is, both nature`s grace spec and swiftmend spec works great.

Edited January 18, 2017 by meridaw

[Lorilay 12]

3 hours ago, Cnkl said:

So, healing touch based spec with nature's grace isn't worth to take ?

I prefer nature's grace and gift of nature & improved regrowth. Current content fights are so short that Moonglow is essentially useless unless you want to save money on potions & runes. You can output a ton more healing using rejuv/healing touch (in a swiftmend spec) or spamming downranked regrowth, which allows your guild to take fewer healers and kill things faster. Maybe that will change in AQ, but when we ran AQ on the nost PTR and on Rebirth, mana still wasn't an issue. If you're running low on mana, you can always cast healing touch with that spec to be more conservative with your mana.

Edited January 18, 2017 by Lorilay

[meridaw 11]

moonglow is a pretty decent talent imo, saves you from drinking when raid wants to clear fast trash, you can spam some more regrowth if you got to much mana, and innevate some one other then your self.

[Duality 4]

https://www.twitch.tv/dualityinq
Come have a look at wed and sun 19-23.
Feel free to ask questions.

 

[Asherdoom 5]

4 hours ago, Duality said:

https://www.twitch.tv/dualityinq
Come have a look at wed and sun 19-23.
Feel free to ask questions.

 

as i said: healing touch (like in the guide i posted) is the main healing. this streamer proved it.

regrowth spam burn away you mana in like 6 casts i dont see the advantage :/

[Duality 4]

3 minutes ago, Asherdoom said:

as i said: healing touch (like in the guide i posted) is the main healing. this streamer proved it.

regrowth spam burn away you mana in like 6 casts i dont see the advantage :/

It is all relative to the encounter.

On short encounters you can allow yourself to burn mana in order to pre-hot and quickly top off people who take a lot of damage, which in turn reduces the chance on people dying. If you know the encounter well, you know who and when to pre-hot based on certain boss mechanics. This allows for your melee to over-extend and do more dps. In the long run this reduces the time your raid-grp have to spend in the instance.

On longer encounters you may want to spam HT r3-4 to save mana, and only keep hots on the active tank.

On bosses like Chrom and Neffy with spiky tank dmg you want to line up a HT r10 to instantly top them off after a breath.

If you believe spamming r4 for an entire raid if effective as a druid, you may want to reroll a holy paladin.

[Asherdoom 5]

51 minutes ago, Duality said:

It is all relative to the encounter.

On short encounters you can allow yourself to burn mana in order to pre-hot and quickly top off people who take a lot of damage, which in turn reduces the chance on people dying. If you know the encounter well, you know who and when to pre-hot based on certain boss mechanics. This allows for your melee to over-extend and do more dps. In the long run this reduces the time your raid-grp have to spend in the instance.

On longer encounters you may want to spam HT r3-4 to save mana, and only keep hots on the active tank.

On bosses like Chrom and Neffy with spiky tank dmg you want to line up a HT r10 to instantly top them off after a breath.

If you believe spamming r4 for an entire raid if effective as a druid, you may want to reroll a holy paladin.

i never said such thing i posted guides from people who already cleared vanilla content multiple times so they got more exp than us

 

 

[meridaw 11]

14 hours ago, Asherdoom said:

as i said: healing touch (like in the guide i posted) is the main healing. this streamer proved it.

regrowth spam burn away you mana in like 6 casts i dont see the advantage :/

I like to use lower ranks of regrowth, rank 5-6 depending on gear, at moments when raid is taking rapid damage, just to save a few people who are about to die.