johanson 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 Is it legal to trade gold between servers? If for example I find a guy and on PvP give him say 20g and he gives me 20g on PvE in return. Is this legal or is this considered gold selling/trafficking and is this bannable? In this case the gold is legit (not Chinese farmed) and we just trade, because someone decided to say re-roll on another server but has a main already. Also, really sorry if this has been asked before or this is answered somewhere. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormhart 12 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 Check out: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/21966-terms-of-use-rules-regulations/ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johanson 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 I have read it, but I can't see that this is directly illegal i.e I'm not trading gold for real money in this case. I'm trading in game item for an in game item, but between servers. I'd like some clear answer on this matter possibly by a GM please or somebody who knows for sure. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 Its not really against the rules, but its not especially allowed either. Do it at your own risk. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimma 10 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 I remember a similar post on Nost, and there the answer was it is not allowed. I am not sure how they would ever find out though. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johanson 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Same way gold buyers are found. Their "anti-cheat" will flag me. Plus, I don't want to be targeted as a cheater here so decided to discuss this. Edited January 21, 2017 by johanson 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nelythia 44 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 If the gold is legitimately farmed/earned its fine. As said, its not against the rules but not especially allowed either. You could do it, but at your own risk. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 Ya, it was not allowed on Nost, and I'm pretty sure Pottu has already answered this one on Elysium as well. The reasoning is that 1. There's no way to tell the difference between buying gold and transferring gold in this manner, and 2. Economies aren't equal, so unles someone set up an official exchange rate (HA!), allowing this across the board would somewhat (no doubt very small effect) impact economies. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDruidCode 28 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 I wouldn't risk it. You'll most certainly get flagged and banned. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDruidCode 28 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Henceforth said: Well, it cannot be cause of ban if you change like 1000 golds in PVE server for 1000 golds in PvP server. You are not doing anything WRONG that would cause you a permanent ban. This isn't even breaking economy. The risk is you to get scammed by somebody. Would think what could happen is that the evil "gold seller hunter bot" will notice someone trading gold for nothing and flag the account. Maybe I'm just paranoid. I moved my bank dude to my main account early on nost to not be sending gold between accounts when there seemed to be a lot of gold related bans going on. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 It is not allowed. 1. It was already answered in another thread with same topic. 2. You are attempting to create an exchange of gold for a benefit outside of the server. That is clearly against the rules. Don't do it. To the people that have you incorrect information: You could have easily gotten 2 people banned for your bad assumptions. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johanson 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Undertanker said: It is not allowed. 1. It was already answered in another thread with same topic. 2. You are attempting to create an exchange of gold for a benefit outside of the server. That is clearly against the rules. Don't do it. To the people that have you incorrect information: You could have easily gotten 2 people banned for your bad assumptions. Thank you. Was there an answer by a GM? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Pottu Master Senior Game Master 889 posts Posted December 11, 2016 · Report post Between factions = allowed Between realms = not allowed from this thread. Edited January 21, 2017 by Ellipsea 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johanson 1 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ellipsea said: Pottu Master Senior Game Master 889 posts Posted December 11, 2016 · Report post Between factions = allowed Between realms = not allowed from this thread. Thank you. This is exactly what I needed. Although, I don't really see how he concluded that it's not allowed, nothing in TC says so, but oh well. But that's another topic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimma 10 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 It could be interpreted as trading gold for items outside the realm - in which case it is bannable. But I agree: a note in the rules would'nt hurt! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 Why are people even talking about different econonies, lol. The gold wouldn't go from one server to another. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimma 10 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Oakenlix said: Why are people even talking about different econonies, lol. The gold wouldn't go from one server to another. You could say the same for buying gold. The point is the traded item is outside the realm. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Just now, Mimma said: You could say the same for buying gold. The point is the traded item is outside the realm. Yeah, I have no doubt this should be forbidden, just thought that was funny and pointed it out. Edited January 21, 2017 by Oakenlix 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Oakenlix said: Why are people even talking about different econonies, lol. The gold wouldn't go from one server to another. You don't get it. If it were allowed and everyone is willing to trade 1:1. I'll take my 60 on anathema and start farming now and gladly exchange anyone 1000g from Anathema for 1000g on Darrowshire. I'll run the arcanite bar and arcane crystal market on Darrowshire from here to eternity. Back on Anathema I can buy a couple black lotus and a bag of chips for that. 4 hours ago, Henceforth said: 1) you are wrong. It is really EASY to say that you are transferring gold, you just have to check the transactions on server 1 and 2 if the GMs are concerned. 2) Economies aren't equal, but if both agree to exchange at 1:1 rate, who are you to say otherwise? Are you going to moderate the economy? 1. You'd be flagged for gold selling first, and then your assuming it's the GMs responsibilty to sort your situation out. I mean, you can try playing this game that way if it seems smart to you. 2. read above. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakenlix 79 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Ellipsea said: You don't get it. If it were allowed and everyone is willing to trade 1:1. I'll take my 60 on anathema and start farming now and gladly exchange anyone 1000g from Anathema for 1000g on Darrowshire. I'll run the arcanite bar and arcane crystal market on Darrowshire from here to eternity. Back on Anathema I can buy a couple black lotus and a bag of chips for that. Oh, well if that's the case, then people simply wouldn't trade it 1:1. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 that's what I originally said would have to be implemented. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellipsea 36 Report post Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Henceforth said: This is NOT breaking economy. You must be a moron or a dumb to think about that. Ya, clearly I'm the one that doesn't understand : P 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites