Hunter Stereotype?

[Swolobaggins 0]

Is there a reason why the majority of players that are hunters actually fit the negative attitude that comes with hunter stereotypes? 

Its starting to feel like most yasuo and riven players in League (Only analogy I could think of)

[Fisher 5]

Because most people are scum, regardless of class. There is a certain degree of allure for the hunter class, namely that the class is very easy to get into and level.

[TheDruidCode 28]

They are called huntards for a reason. But meh, don't think hunters are any worse than warriors. Druids are always the nicest people. And priest before they start raiding and understand that they're invaluable and start feeling entitled.

Or maybe we shouldn't generalize. It's just people being people. Some are dicks, some are nice. 

[Software 9]

16 hours ago, Swolobaggins said:

Is there a reason why the majority of players that are hunters actually fit the negative attitude that comes with hunter stereotypes? 

Its starting to feel like most yasuo and riven players in League (Only analogy I could think of)

Try not to generalize people. Also, I highly doubt you've interacted with the majority of your servers hunters.

[Nosleep 4]

Don't believe the hype! True Hunters are some of the nicest people in the game! They bring pride to the class and themselves! Its just a throwback from vanilla days, and its not even true.. the same ''easy to play and so huntard'' claim and be said about a mage... or any class if played simply or badly...

IMO Hunters are one of the easy classes to pick up and roll with, levelling is fast, and a basic auto shot with pet will kill anything at your lvl range as you are levelling... hitting specials, arcane shot, multi, serpent sting will just speed it up and don't really matter what order you use them in as you're levelling and for a moderate dps in 5 mans.

 

.... BUT.....

 

They are one of the most difficult to be good with at max lvl raids and even in 5 mans both levelling and at 60. And by this I don't just mean DPS, which for any spec or setup will have a mathematically 'best' method for a pure tank n spank fight and will net you a decent DPS even played badly, but after that the fun begins.

Bosses with many adds or big trash pulls are where a Hunter is truly tested, kiting, CC and utility of the Hunter is amazing and their true purpose in a raid is not just to top the DPS tables (that's the easy bit.. we just own, it's that simple)

.....but it is actually to keep the healers alive, and so the raid alive... ranged taunt/distracting shot... long and short range slows... the ability to fain death and lay a trap or pre lay 1 in strategic places .. these are just some of the things that make Hunters the care takers of the raid.. not to mention scorpid sting on every mob that it being tanked/off tanked. and the list goes on. 

If you are a Hunter and a healer dies in your raid or group, you should hang your head in shame!!

You are responsible for or anyone really except MT, and even them sometimes, its your job as a Hunter to use the amazing awareness of the raid you 'should' have, spotting who needs help and when.. being able to pick up mobs that were or were not your task because they broke free or the players tasked with killing them dies. Using the amazing variety of abilities we have.

I cant remember the amount of times I saved this or that after hearing on ventrillo/TS ''shit we need more DPS on these adds''.. or ''FUCK IM DEAD''  or see a mob run towards the healers and upon hearing it ''boom!'' im there, doing whatever needs doing! While still doing the job i had, the Hunter should be a multi-task expert!

 

But when it comes to PVP they really come into their own... getting hi HK's in AV by standing at the back and multi-shot barrage will get you great HK's yes and so they get called easy... but their true skill is in 1v2 and even 1v3 where when played right.. is more than possible! And using your abilities on players your team mates are fighting...in those periods where you have 1+ secs left on your CD's and ideally if it wont clip an auto shot, you should be hitting other enemies with viper or scorpid or serpent sings.. you should be controlling your pet independently of yourself and making it attack the right player at the right time and switching as the field changes, FD trapping id needed, basically seeing who is aroud you and how you might best help them as well as yourself. (cos lets be fair, in PVP its not exactly hard to win a 1v1... think the awakening sceen from the Maxtrix 1 towards the end after being shot, where he does agent smith with 1 hand and looks bored haha) use that 'free' time while you're owning some silly fool that DARED to attack you.. to help everyone else too!

 

A Hunter played very good, is truly a beautiful thing to see.. and by no means ''easy''

 

Cherish these vanilla times!! for this (and TBC, actually tbc it got even better! .. and even wotlk to be fair) is where Hunters are God's amongst mere mortals!

Edited January 25, 2017 by Nosleep

[Perkalov 0]

Its simple.

Hunters are easy to play and get a decent result. It is the perfect "beginners" class, with a straightforward gameplay. Rogues is the close combat equalent of hunters.

That makes them classes that a lot of good and decent players avoid, since they feel it isn't a challenge and it makes it classes that are recommended to new players.

So with that said, a lot of newbies plays hunters.

The hunter rep comes from two things...

#1 dead easy to play, alas only played by those who will fail at playing everything else. This is as all experienced hunters know, a misconception. But it doesn't matter, this is the opinion in general. 

#2 Ninja'ing anything that isn't nailed to the floor. Hunters pre 40 is sharing gear with both Rogues and ferals, making the arguments in instance groups to next to allways center on a hunter and something else. On top of that, since there are a lot of beginers amongs rogues and hunters they do not fully understand the needs of the other classes or the idea that while can need the "tanking sword" for a slight improvement (negating a decent improvement for the warrior) it is "morally" the warrior that has dibs on that item (nor can they see the difference between a suitable weapon for hunters, vs a tanking sword... "what, I also have use for Stamina and why would weapon speed matter?"), just as I have dibs on any bow I might need. On top of that, hunters post lvl 40 keeps ninjaing leather items right in front of the hissing cats and spitting rogues, because now they have come to the conclusion that anything that they can possibly use, with agility, is rightful theirs.

There are an absurd amount of ninjas amongst hunters. Granted, I have seen a mage skipping away, while humming cheerfully, with a Bow of Searing Arrows he "needed for AH"(with an sobbing, underequipped hunter where left on the scene of the crime). So there are idiots in every class, its just that every third intolerable  player seem to roll hunter.

So we got a deservedly bad rep, because of #2. But with that said, when I played Warrior Tank there where no dps class I'd rather have if I knew the hunter to be a decent player. A good hunter is far more valuable then a good dps warrior, shammy, rogue, druid etc (which basically adds a clutter of bodies around the mobs, stomps around in various shit the bosses/mobs puts on the ground/floor, and good DPS). Only Mage or Warlock will be nearly as useful. A hunter is to the party like what a swizz knife is to a camper.

[Huntardsrise 0]

On 27.1.2017 at 11:15 AM, Perkalov said:

Its simple.

Hunters are easy to play and get a decent result. It is the perfect "beginners" class, with a straightforward gameplay. Rogues is the close combat equalent of hunters.

That makes them classes that a lot of good and decent players avoid, since they feel it isn't a challenge and it makes it classes that are recommended to new players.

So with that said, a lot of newbies plays hunters.

Aight m8, not sure where you have your knowledge from. But actually hunters are the hardest class to master in vanilla, followed by the mage and rogue. - talking about pvp here

Pve is cake on every class so not sure if it's worth mentioning, but if you want to play a beginner friendly class go for a Frost or Shadowbolt spammer, easiest stuff in the game.

 

[Perkalov 0]

20 minutes ago, Huntardsrise said:

Aight m8, not sure where you have your knowledge from. But actually hunters are the hardest class to master in vanilla, followed by the mage and rogue. - talking about pvp here

Pve is cake on every class so not sure if it's worth mentioning, but if you want to play a beginner friendly class go for a Frost or Shadowbolt spammer, easiest stuff in the game.

 

Im talking PvE, because that what most newbies consider when they chose and just by virtue of the pet they are easier then all the other classes. Just send pet, point the weapon in right direction and hammer buttons. If all else fail, run like a madman when the pet is about to die or FD if you are past 30.

[Huntardsrise 0]

12 minutes ago, Perkalov said:

Im talking PvE, because that what most newbies consider when they chose and just by virtue of the pet they are easier then all the other classes. Just send pet, point the weapon in right direction and hammer buttons. If all else fail, run like a madman when the pet is about to die or FD if you are past 30.

So micromanaging a pet and paying attention to your auto multi aimed rotation is easier than spamming one button? 

[Raziya 11]

Guys, guys: Easy to learn, difficult to master.

[Perkalov 0]

On ‎2017‎-‎01‎-‎29 at 11:25 AM, Huntardsrise said:

So micromanaging a pet and paying attention to your auto multi aimed rotation is easier than spamming one button? 

Nahh... but newbies doesn't micromanage the pet nor do they care much for rotation. They send Hoggolito at Mob A, and point their arrow/barrel in the general direction of A close their eyes and hope for the best. And for this kind of behaviour Hunter is the best. Those who actually micromanage their pet and pay attention to their rotation (thus have a decent DPS, aside from being the utility box of the party) isn't the part of the hunter community that gives us the bad rep.

To a new player, hunter is by far the easiest to learn. I am gona teach my 7 y/o son to play WoW this afternoon and I have manipulated him into chosing hunter, so I wont have to wait for hours while he corpse run.

Having a pet is a blessing to newbies, they do not need to freeze mobs and jump away as Mages do or fearkite as warlocks and they can generally avoid close combat (where you die) which Shammys/Druids/Rogues etc cant. I get it, its not hard to do, but its easier to just have a hog taking the damage. Warlock do have pet, but sending the blob and using wand seems to be unattractive and Warlock might be the class I find hardest to handle of the obvious ranged.  While they have better rep then Hunters, I avoid them if I can because its clear to me that a lot of them can't handle their class, thus has a DPS that barely gets them out of an wet papperbag.

[Nosleep 4]

Every class is easy to learn.. the game is designed to be easy at the start, slowly introducing more talents and abilities as the player progresses.....

So why only the hunter is mentioned as easy?  oh you mean pve?  well thats funny, cos every class is insanely simple and easy to play at beginning in pve and you only get more complex (as with hunters) past lvl 20 or so, slowly introduced every couple of levels but still every class, while lvl'ing or end game pve, are a 1-4 button spammers... and that includes hunters with all classes.

 

Are you all new to WoW???  maybe these are your 1st chars ever??  because you talk like you never played the game in your life and take all your so called experience from ranting youtubers.

 

easy to play?? compared to what??

 

mage - lol literally 1 button  from lvl 1 to lvl 60 in pve and pvp.. 1 button.... ok 2 if mobs come close lol + free (max current level) food n water often expensive for new players and so seriously decreases downtime)

rogue/war,  lol auto swing will kill mobs..  stealth or mail/plate armor and they get lots of handy health/avoidance abilities to help keep them alive or lose HP slower etc.

shammy/pala/druid - hahahaha easy??  auto swing or single button bash main dmg spell cast... thats it...oh and the heals lol... at all levels they can heal themselves... kind of a bonus eh??  

lock/priest - slightly more to these guys than a mage, but still.. in beginning very very easy to learn.. and eventually they become 2-3 button spammers... LIKE ALL OTHER CLASSES!

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ALL CLASSES ARE EASY TO PLAY... ALL JUST AS EASY AS HUNTER, IF NOT MUCH MORE EASY!!

but no, no you're right.. its the hunter thats more easy than others by soooo much it deserves special mention and even suggest the player who chose the hunter couldn't do any other class!.

 

If any of you think that me comparing hunter auto shot to other classes auto swing or 1 button spam is not fair, i would love to know why.

... pet tank+auto shot = pet half dead every mob.. needs heals = mana = down time.  other classes either heal them selves after every fight = mana = down time or they eat food+ bandage every fight or 2 like melee classes = consumables = down time.

 

If you auto shot mobs with pet tank... if you actually play that way with hunter... your pet will be almost dead after 1 or 2 mobs... cos your auto shot will take so long that your pet is half dead or more after each mob which = huge down time healing and feeding (especially in the beginning) and so then huge down time drinking to replace mana ... that is NOT how newbie players play hunter....or anyone for that matter, unless you really are bored with playing games and choose not to use any abilities or do anything except AFK auto shoot... i mean really??  you think 'all new players' or anyone really, plays like that??

and even if some do.. so do ALL other classes.. they can all single button/auto swing their way to lvl 60 if they want the extra downtime and boredom that comes with it.

 

This idea that for some reason new players all roll hunter cos they are 'easy' to play  and all you have to do is AFK auto shoot your way to lvl 60 is...

1: not true!  new players who roll hunter dont AFK auto shoot, they spamm the abilitiy buttons they have as they get them with pet tanking...and learn to play their class.... just the same as every other class.

2:  Most important - backwards logic!  oh ok.. ''new players roll hunter cos they are the easiest to pick up and learn and especially players who dont have the skill to play other classes''  interesting logic...

so the 'new' players, who know nothing about classes and lvl 60 abilities etc... they pick hunter based on their deep understanding of the class differences both at lvl 1 and lvl 60 pvp and pve and so choose the easy class out of fear of the other 'hard' classes.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  big breath hahahahahahahahahahaha

3: literally made up by the OP ..... rhetoric thrown back from vanilla days, that had no true meaning then, as it still doesnt now, other than bullshit hatred and jealousy from little children who just name call things aka: trolls... that got picked up by the pond scum part of the wow community... and here... still today 13 years later... you guys are making posts asking...

''why is hunters all noobs??  oh cos hunter is the easiest to play!''

 

And you only do 1 thing when you try to make these claims.....

You show your complete lack of knowledge of the game, and your obvious cata baby attitude that never even experienced playing a hunter and only knows class normalisation , free lewtz and how to blindly follow old rhetoric/memes/trolls from 13 years ago still being repeated in /1 and /2 all day on retail *and private, unfortunately!), with zero understanding of how they came to be or why they might be wrong, incorrect, often on purpose.. aka: troll.  ... they just repeat what they see in /1 and /2 like good little sheep.. repeat it long enough, and you even think its true hahahahaha

 

so please... before you claim hunters are the most simple to play.. or easy to play compared to other classes ... or that hunters are all horrible vile people... remember...

 

trolling is frowned upon on these forums... and thats all youre doing.

Edited February 4, 2017 by Nosleep

[Zarant 2]

I've played a hunter and multiple other classes, and I gotta say, as a hunter I've wiped my group so many times because of stupid mistakes more than any other class.

Things like tabbing through targets and accidentally pulling an extra pack with auto shot, climbing a ziggurat in strat ud by the side of the stairs and not dismissing my pet, jumping from the balcony in ubrs without dismissing my pet, having my pet chase after runners, and the list goes on, most of them are related to pet/pathing mechanics. Mastering those same mechanics is what makes hunters so fun to play and one of the best soloing class in the game.

Unfortunately the only way to learn is by experience, so you can expect someone less experienced to annoy the crap out of you when they make some kind of stupid mistake, when you and your group have to die and run back and the bastard that wiped everyone just feign death and afk for the next 5 minutes.