the jump to Anathema

[rajinsu 8]

Is is just me or is every one jumping over to anathema pvp server its now the #1 server in terms of player numbers.is every one jumping to it because it has the most done to it in terms of raids and content on it.or is there something else im missing .

[Xef 5]

Yes I think you're correct. Currently, according to the website, Anathema has 12 more players than Elysium. 

Or perhaps coming into conclusions like this needs a bit more examples than just one. Earlier when I checked Anathema had 6.8k whilst Ely had over 10k.

Edit: Ely restarted few min ago..now pop rising again. Don't be so hasty.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Xef

[Geston 15]

Probably has a lot to do with how tough leveling on Elysium is right now for a lot of people, I dont play on it but I can only imagine every contested zone is an absolute mess, even moreso than OG Nost was.

The population of Zeth probably scares people away(im not saying I believe its low but its the mentality set by nost that <5k is dead) and a lot of people prefer PvP over PvE so Darrowshire is out, so Anathema is the desirable choice to a lot of people.

And yes ofc the promise of new content way before the other 3 realms.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Geston

[Shiamorah 20]

I have been playing exclusively on Zeth'Kur, level 26 now. Population of 4.5k currently is more than enough, I see players in every zone, been grouped with random players through group questing pretty frequently. Don't forget that the original Vanilla WoW population cap was around 2.5k, so even though it is the lowest, it is still more than enough. 

I have not regretted my decision to go on Zeth'Kur, and think that an 8k population would be much more difficult leveling up with. 

[killerduki 54]

20 minutes ago, rajinsu said:

Is is just me or is every one jumping over to anathema pvp server its now the #1 server in terms of player numbers.is every one jumping to it because it has the most done to it in terms of raids and content on it.or is there something else im missing .

That's what i been saying long time ago, when many hypetrain was so pro fresh server oriented ;)

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Revo 34]

22 minutes ago, rajinsu said:

Is is just me or is every one jumping over to anathema pvp server its now the #1 server in terms of player numbers.is every one jumping to it because it has the most done to it in terms of raids and content on it.or is there something else im missing .

i dont think its (new) ppl that are changing realms, it rather are veterans returning to anathema for aq i suppose.

however, ive not seen anathema have a higher pop than elysium yet. right now, anathema 8k, elysium 10.6k

it also does not make sense to switch realms from ely to anathema if youre tired of getting ganked. if youre tired of getting ganked all the time, youd rather choose darrowshire or zeth kur

[Shiamorah 20]

5 minutes ago, Zipzo said:

I think my #1 pet peeve these days is people using the retail 2.5k server cap as an argument point.

 

1. Not everyone played on a full server with a constant queue and thus doesn't know or care what it's like exactly to be on a server with 2.5k people, hence a big draw is that this server holds more people.

 

2. 2.5k people could still seem dead back then. Farming alone in zones, empty Ironforge at non-peak times, depended what you were doing.

 

My point is that the old 2.5k cap is absolutely irrelevant to any argument concerning the populations in the current modern iterations of vanilla WoW. More people is better. Heaps more people is why people liked Nost.

 

Technically I can throw the reverse context at you and say that Kronos is an active server by retail vanilla standards, it's not full by any means but is most within the standard of medium during slightly off-peak hours and definitely in upper medium during peak, but guess what? That sever may as well be completely dead to everyone.

 

People do not care about the old server cap, times have changed. The standards are higher. Stop using this as an argument point to justify decreasing populations or low population numbers.

Standards are not higher... Go to retail server stats, realize that Zeth'Kur's concurrent population is higher than about 180 of current WoW servers concurrent population, even without their cap. I see people everywhere, population is 100% not a problem. Standards are not higher, population caps increased because of addition of continents (Outlands, Northrend, Pandaria). It is definitely an argument point. Steady 4.5k population is not low.

People are actually disliking 10k concurrent populations due to lag and issues quest camping.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Shiamorah

[Revo 34]

7 minutes ago, Zipzo said:

More people is better.

err no. its not that simple.

wow's world simply has a limited size, thus it cannot support an unlimited amount of players. the custom changes that were necessery to make to the respawn rates show how putting too many players into a world that wasnt build for that many players cause more and more problems. as you change 1 value of the puzzle, the amount of players, you will also have to adapt a lot of more values.

you might be able to change spawn rates or other rates like vendors unique recipe re-pop (which is also necessary) in order to try to balance everything out again, but you cannot adapt it all. itd be a lot of effort youd have to make, plus some things like the worlds size just cannot be changed. the "improved" respawn rate already stops ppl from going into certain areas because its just impossible to surive there for 1 minute

so more does not  automatically mean better and right now i think 5k is ideal. >7k is terrible and <3k is terrible.

imo, the player cap should be 7k

[Maez 4]

43 minutes ago, Zipzo said:

I think my #1 pet peeve these days is people using the retail 2.5k server cap as an argument point.

People do not care about the old server cap, times have changed. The standards are higher. Stop using this as an argument point to justify decreasing populations or low population numbers.

One of the points of the argument is that the respawn rate of quest items/monsters/limited vendor items is not fit to handle 8-10k population.  Another point is the amount of lag caused by loads of people in one area and people post on here reporting 1500ms+ latency issues on those high population servers.

Retail fixed their population/lag issues with zone instancing and cross-server play with TBC/WotLK.

[Undertanker 88]

Bringing this back to OP:

A lot of the people that had Nost toons/Anathema toons that made alts on the new server are hitting the point of leveling where it seems more realistic to get rest exp (usually in the 40s) and play their mains during that time.   Hype train people hit the 30s where people tend to burn out.  

Others who went to a new server for that "I am gonna be first level/playing field" are coming to the realization you will always be behind.  Considering people are doing MC before you are level 30.

Some people are testing the waters, some will play on multiple servers.  Honestly it doesn't matter.

Is there enough mats for you to buy on the AH when needed?   Can you put a 5 man together in a reasonable time?   Is there 39 other people wanting to raid the same days/times as you?  This is what matters.  Server could have 10k people but wouldn't matter if you can't find a raid group.  Or could have 100 people and everybody plays together.

The position some people hold of more population = better.  Does that mean India and China better than other countries?  Is a public swimming pool better than a gated community pool?  Is going to the grocery store when it is crowded better than when it isn't busy?

Can you accomplish your goals is all that should matter.

[Hauzer 1]

2 hours ago, Xef said:

Edit: Ely restarted few min ago..now pop rising again. Don't be so hasty.

 

Elysium has thousands more than Anathema at all times unless something like this...

Edited January 29, 2017 by Hauzer

[Leytere 1]

Mmh except it's not true, 2.5k people is enough, sure sometimes (especially when leveling) it'll be hard to find that last spot for dungeons or group quests and you'll not be surrounded by people all the time (which is anti-immersive as hell for me).

But it's enough.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Leytere

[Ront7 0]

16 minutes ago, Leytere said:

Mmh except it's not true, 2.5k people is enough, sure sometimes (especially when leveling) it'll be hard to find that last spot for dungeons or group quests and you'll not be surrounded by people all the time (which is anti-immersive as hell for me).

But it's enough.

i disagree, 2.5k is meh. i was on darrowshire with constant 6-7k people and i said so much trouble finding groups i quit as a 47 hunter(also tried a lock to sub 20) + a few alts with leather working and alts with enough mats to power level enchanting and tailoring

[Xef 5]

What's the point of going on about "what population is the best"? Some like 10k, some like 5k and some like 2k. Deal with it. There's no right or wrong. Why do you think people chose/choose servers like Kronos and TRB (for now) over Elysium/Nost? Quality differences aside, some like smaller populations.

To me it's not vanilla if I can get a group to anything I want within 5 seconds. It's more like having RDF, it really is (and this point makes me laugh at those who pretend to be vanilla "purists" but can't play on a server where they can't get a group going within seconds). 

To me it's not vanilla if there's groups of other people doing the same quest I'm doing, regardless which Q I'm on. 

To me it's not vanilla if I can kill somebody in the world and 2 seconds later that person has totally forgotten who I am and won't recognize me again unless he has some issues and writes my name down. 

There. That's my opinion...no need to tell me now how I'm wrong because "times have changed" and whatever other shit Zipzo was saying. 

[mbee 4]

3 hours ago, Zipzo said:

I think my #1 pet peeve these days is people using the retail 2.5k server cap as an argument point.

The other thing that hasn't been mentioned is the retail servers were designed for players in a single geographic zone - NA, EU, etc. Private servers have no such limitation, you will find players or guilds who are coming from various countries, much more so than it was on retail.

[math3746 6]

Im a little bit annoyed, that people on Elysium already farming Ragnaros, but i cant buy Warsong items for the next 6 months. I understand that its ok and it should be like this, but...i got honored on lvl 19 and went to vendor and cried a lot. lul

[Syff 23]

remember when all the doomsday preachers were crying "Don't open a new server! old nostalrius pvp realms will die because of this blablalba"

 

 

nice

[Lifealert 19]

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[Worldstar 36]

[Lifealert 19]

Better leveling experience on Anathema

 

Anathema is also fresher because we got a name change. 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Lifealert

[smokeit 26]

I'm snuggly in ZK