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Need more transparancy on the payments.. people paying for Anathema arent going trough!!!!

Another proof Elysium doesnt care for the old Nostalrius crowd.....

Basically leeching an old established community for its own profit while that the Old Nost community was the base for this whole project to come off the ground in the first place. NEVER FORGET that.

 

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1 hour ago, Kazuma said:

Need more transparancy on the payments.. people paying for Anathema arent going trough!!!!

Another proof Elysium doesnt care for the old Nostalrius crowd.....

Basically leeching an old established community for its own profit while that the Old Nost community was the base for this whole project to come off the ground in the first place. NEVER FORGET that.

 

Saying the payments "arent going through" how would you know this? Maybe its because you have more than 3 days left on your server why they havent said anything. They said before they usually do not post updates until multiple months are paid for, they made and exception for ZK because it was going down in 3 fucking days.  Chill out if you "know" that people have paid for your server then why are you worried?

 

Also let us not forget your "old nost community" leaders left you out to dry and sold you out. If you do not like elysium and the way it is....well you know where the door is.

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8 hours ago, Kazuma said:

Need more transparancy on the payments.. people paying for Anathema arent going trough!!!!

Another proof Elysium doesnt care for the old Nostalrius crowd.....

Basically leeching an old established community for its own profit while that the Old Nost community was the base for this whole project to come off the ground in the first place. NEVER FORGET that.

 

Man I hate your kind. 

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You and the contributors donating through the hidden donation link were together paying 900€. The expenses are now 1,500€ and that means you need roughly 600€ from the community.

Considering all donations since 13 december you shouldn't be asking to be fed for a long time.

Will you provide us with evidence how you've handled the money?

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On 7/2/2017 at 5:11 PM, Kazuma said:

Need more transparancy on the payments.. people paying for Anathema arent going trough!!!!

Another proof Elysium doesnt care for the old Nostalrius crowd.....

Basically leeching an old established community for its own profit while that the Old Nost community was the base for this whole project to come off the ground in the first place. NEVER FORGET that.

 

Leave the community please.

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On 6/2/2017 at 11:16 PM, [email protected] said:

Did  u think hosting was free? I mean honestly.....

I ain't saying that hosint is free. But if they can't afford it themselves, then it's pretty stupid to make a project like this.

 

I just fear Blizzard can shut it down when they ask of money.

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1 minute ago, Mike JezZ said:

But if they can't afford it themselves, then it's pretty stupid to make a project like this.

You sir, sounds like an interesting character.

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Just now, TheDruidCode said:

You sir, sounds like an interesting character.

Don't get me wrong. I understand why they want to get support from the players.

 

But when they want money for a fan project, then it's more likely that Blizzard will shut it down. I think.

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I sent $15 towards Zek'Thur. What I would love is an option to have a recurring subscription. I know Paypal does it. If you setup a recurring $5, $10, $15 etc. Let people choose what it's worth to them. I've got more hassle logging in and paying than just setting it to auto pay. 

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As long as they don't provide any balance sheets of their paypal account I won't provide any money. Who knows if they don't embazzle parts of our payments? Even if this means my server will be shuted down... it's wort waiting for Crestfall anyway.

If they provide balance sheets I immidately donate some bugs.

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Im new to Elysium, played a bit on nostalrius. (lvl 40)

So far i like how the world looks and feels, it works good and i appreciate the work that has been done.
I just saw the news about alexensual and the need for donations, so i wanted to chip in.

However,

Reading this thread made me doubt if the money will be going towards the server, if there would be a transparent overview of fundings then i would donate money.
Can't you make the donations in a way that we can see that we have donated?

Like a list on the site with all the donations that are made?, including provided donator name(or anonymous).

p.s. also when i try to donate with paypal, i dont see an option to send it to Anathema

 

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I would donate money if I could actually play...Started an account last night and have been having nothing but Disconnection Issues since last night's Server Restart.. Was playing fine for about an hour today...And BAM disconnect...Now I can't get back in..

Nor has there been a response from anyone on these issues that a lot of people have made posts on...Why would I give money to people who seem to not care about their community..

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5 minutes ago, Jman420 said:

I would donate money if I could actually play...Started an account last night and have been having nothing but Disconnection Issues since last night's Server Restart.. Was playing fine for about an hour today...And BAM disconnect...Now I can't get back in..

Nor has there been a response from anyone on these issues that a lot of people have made posts on...Why would I give money to people who seem to not care about their community..

Normally the servers fine. But today it's been on the same level as Riot's EU West server.

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9 minutes ago, Jman420 said:

I would donate money if I could actually play...Started an account last night and have been having nothing but Disconnection Issues since last night's Server Restart.. Was playing fine for about an hour today...And BAM disconnect...Now I can't get back in..

Nor has there been a response from anyone on these issues that a lot of people have made posts on...Why would I give money to people who seem to not care about their community..

I registered a forum account only to say that you have been unlucky. This has been an unusual day with all the disconnects and server restarts. But keep in mind that there's usually a good reason why the servers go down, the game is further developed and existing issues are being fixed. That's the exact reason why the donations are welcome, it's not only about the server rentals.

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Again, are you going to provide us with evidence how you're handling donated money? Or could it be that you're hoarding the money? That was the case with private servers hosted by Scapegaming, where it turned out they had more than $3 million in a PayPal account: http://www.geek.com/games/blizzard-wins-88-million-from-scapegaming-over-illegal-wow-servers-1277800/

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On 03/02/2017 at 6:09 AM, Mallek said:

Why don't you merge Elysium and Zeth'kor?? both servers are a lot more empty, not close to the max players on the servers as we had before, we will have more players to play with and you will just have to ask the community to help maintain 3 servers instead of 4 servers. Its 310 less euros spent. Think about it. Look at the servers population. Just merge them.


Elysium needs a pop cap if anything. Zeth'kur is great at the moment! No merge would be accepted.
 

On 03/02/2017 at 8:55 PM, snawfu said:

no no no

 

you just stay on zeth kur broTher

 

with the rabble


Elysium is overpopulated and with gold farmers? China emulation?
 

On 04/02/2017 at 6:25 PM, Wishes said:

#MergeServerToSaveCosts

I play on Zet and ofc its cool that is not so over pop - but it seems to make no diffrent in costs if 10k or 3k play on it. We start playing here and expect 10k+ ppl on realm so it cant be a argument now to say, we dont like it over pop.

Further if server get merged, gm staff are merged, too = more gm per server = better support.

I was rly glad to lvl on Zet but it would be stupid to keep both on long turn. Dont think about what is the best for you; think about what is the best for the project - which was planned with 1 new realm.


If servers are merge, problems are queued longer = higher workload for staff = worse support.
 

On 06/02/2017 at 9:12 AM, Jdschoh said:

I was going to do a donation, but now my account is banned. No reason whatsoever what provided. I have a hard time donating money if I randomly get banned? I'm hoping this is just some sort of bug or confusion. But if I cannot even play the game anymore, what's the point? If you could resolve my appeal I'd love to offer up my financial/development/analytic support.  Thanks!


+1

Fair enough. Ban appeals should be reviewed!
 

On 06/02/2017 at 9:58 PM, masyabalin said:

Send you some more bucks again :) Happy to do so!

My advise: But what this wouldnt be an issue if you setup this message in the server-news, so all players can see it. Many of them thinking this is for free and will be there forever. 


+1 

Most people don't read the forums
 

On 06/02/2017 at 10:01 PM, Azphyxiation said:

I am beginning to become concerned.  3 Days left on ZK and people are trying to give, people are trying to help, i know for a fact over $300 US dollars have been donated with a specific note to ZK, unless people legitimately went through the extra effort to photoshop screenshots etc.  I have witnessed first hand over $150 US dollars donated to Zeth Kur.  We have been asking for days for a counter, for an update for anything. I would gladly accept the response that they cannot do it right now or that they dont have the ability or something...but thsi is complete radio silence.  They ask us to post on the forums when we donate etc to let them know.  Apparently its easier to get noticed if you pay for 2 months straight out because that post was made hours after the donation.  Please respect us, we respect you Elysium, we are trying to help the best we can.


+1

I would like to donate to Zeth'Kur directly but only in part. If Elysium does not come up with a solution, I will contact the hosting company directly with my enquiry.
 

On 07/02/2017 at 4:37 AM, Shenna said:

Thank you to all who helped out. Zeth'Kur is now paid up for one month.


+1

However, it seems, that all money directed at Zeth'Kur isn't going to where it should be...

 

On 07/02/2017 at 4:47 AM, Ithurial said:

Hello,

 

How did we only pay for one month when I was told we would have to pay for it 3 months at a time and that was the providers doing saying we could not pay for only one month ? So its possible for us to make a 1 month donation ? to pay pal and for the admin to make a  1 month payment ? is it possible for us to get a donation bar I mean streamers have a donation bar I even have one for my stream it does not take much to do and we can donate to it and would no how much we need to put up for the server to stay up. I do thank you guys for everything you do for us I just want some clarity on this.

 

Thanks ,

Magicnuts<elysium>

Battlecattle<Zeth'Kur>


+1

Sounds suspicious to me as well!
 

On 07/02/2017 at 5:29 AM, Oriomnu said:

Ok, we have one more month on Zeth'Kur. I don't really think that Zeth players will donate enough money for more months, so after 10 March our characters will probably get transferred on Elysium. We need to use our last 30 days (or something) wisely before the end, so time to get more levels and materials.


We have 3 months on Zeth'kur at least (unannounced).  I wouldn't worry about it too much. I think Elyisum staff are concerned people will give up on Zeth'Kur so they only pay for 1 month at a time?
 

On 07/02/2017 at 6:37 AM, Azphyxiation said:

Zeth will stay strong. We have a good community don't you worry


+1
 

On 07/02/2017 at 8:37 AM, Mike JezZ said:

So if people don't pay for the servers ,will they be put down?

It's actually kinda a request of some sort of monthly fee, which probably will get Blizzards attention.


So if you stop breathing, you won't die? Everything has its costs...
 

On 07/02/2017 at 8:49 AM, tearitup said:

The community definitely needs some way to track donations, even if it is just in a forum topic. I'd imagine putting it on the homepage, or even on the server status page, would be too public (ie. Blizzard's eyes). I know it is more work for the devs, whom already do so much, but I would love to know how close each server is to being paid up. It also seems that people are having a lot of confusion in regards to how donations work.


+1
 

On 08/02/2017 at 3:11 AM, Kazuma said:

Need more transparancy on the payments.. people paying for Anathema arent going trough!!!!

Another proof Elysium doesnt care for the old Nostalrius crowd.....

Basically leeching an old established community for its own profit while that the Old Nost community was the base for this whole project to come off the ground in the first place. NEVER FORGET that.

 


Yeah, qq more noob.
 

On 09/02/2017 at 3:39 AM, Fluke said:

€100 for Zeth'Kur

Thank you for your efforts!


+1

Holy shit man! You are awesome! A true hero of the Zeth'Kur

Hopefully it goes towards Zeth'kur and not another server :S
 

On 18/02/2017 at 10:31 PM, Wirt said:

Again, are you going to provide us with evidence how you're handling donated money? Or could it be that you're hoarding the money? That was the case with private servers hosted by Scapegaming, where it turned out they had more than $3 million in a PayPal account: http://www.geek.com/games/blizzard-wins-88-million-from-scapegaming-over-illegal-wow-servers-1277800/


+1

Some accountability is necessary

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