Win trading

[Kazuma 11]

If all you guys could start playing the game how its intended that would be great but no always this sneaky exploity bullshit. Perma ban, ip ban + delete all accounts/character is only just sanction.

[bryan8282 0]

4 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

That will result in a ban for obvious reasons.

but horde never give up.why baned

[Hurricane2 2]

Giving up is precisely why they were banned.  When you win by 5 cap and lose by 5 cap it is an obvious win trade.

[Yeehaw 0]

Hi dear pottu

  My character name is Yeehaw, i real do not win trading, I have never been banned, from Nostalrius to Anathema, i just with my US/EU friends go battleground, real do not win trading, when the sever restart, i found my account was banned, please check my account, i am Innocent victims , for real. Thanks pottu!

[Jpeg 0]

Even Yeehaw got hit #TheDream.

[Shineyy 1]

lmao

[Vsaaa 0]

On 2017/2/21 at 9:38 AM, Pottu said:

Over thirty accounts have been banned for violating our PvP rules. Please remember that we do take such violations seriously. Win trading and honour farming are not allowed and will lead to a permanent ban. I expect that number to grow as we dive deeper into the rabbit hole.

I would also like to thank the assistance of several community members who helped with the investigation. However, there is never any need for a witch hunt. If you have concerns, please bring them to the GMs via in-game ticket or send me a PM via the forum but do remember that suspicion is not enough to ban someone. Investigation takes time.

I'm one of them. But you don't have the evidence to freeze the account, I think it's irresponsible, and all the players are frozen, it's obviously an unfair treatment. We do the same with foreign players, they are not frozen, and we shouldn't be frozen. Hope you can come up with real evidence! Malicious freeze!

[Kazuma 11]

Seems like Elysium doesn't learn from the past.

Nostalrius already had to ban tons of chinese wintraders, same is happening all over again.

Isn't it a coincidence that it's always the asian part of the population. Maybe a more thorough investigation is demanded on this part of population.

Im sure more shady stuff will surface. Like how they boost eachother guilds in bwl and ever joined /china? They talk in some kind of code..

It's all a bunch of automated/cheated crap too make as much money as possible in the least effort amount possible.

[Heglamore 1]

They recently passworded the China-channel on Alliance side, so we can no longer tell what they're up to. :-P

[topceleryman 0]

I am a common PVP player from china，I want to tell you about the list of Chinese players on PvP ranking services,I want you to look into them，

Don't mistake other innocent Chinese players because of them。

 

Please investigate these Character，Don't punish innocent other Chinese players for their mistakes。

[Duron 0]

+1 mate... WoW serves must be purged from this sickness aka Gold/Ranking services.  

Ppl which are playing WoW to earn money is making me sick !!!! Go out and find a real job ... 

[Gstarhh 0]

http://realmplayers.com/PVPList.aspx?section=ranks&realm=Ana

All of the players with 0 % are banned. Is it right?

[Pottu 290]

Few more accounts have been banned.

We are slowly going through the appeals, please have patience. Making an appeal does not mean that your account will get unbanned. It means we verify the evidence again.

[Jazzl 0]

Most of players who were banned in second wave on 22nd Feb are innocent.

You just brainlessly banned all high rank Chinese PVP players no matter they soloq or premade queue

I will not trust Nost anymore cuz ur behavier of racial discrimination

[Iliilliill 0]

Its funny how everybody is so cheeky when doing exploits, but when they get caught they start crying -> DIN DU NUFFIN !

 

Further more - giving up because of some condition and stopping to contribute towards the goal of the game/activity is called throwing of the game. If you throw of the game you let the other team win by intention. If you purposely let the other team win you are trading the win - if you want to argue that point Iam glad to do so, with the definition of the word trade.

What we see in this tread is people admitting to have traded games and writing "but its not trading because I said so". Yeah that's not how it works and iam sure the silent majority of the realm's is gratefull for those ban waves and the work of the GMs and all the people that contribute towards it.  
 

[Iliilliill 0]

Just now, Jazzl said:

Most of players who were banned in second wave on 22nd Feb are innocent.

You just brainlessly banned all high rank Chinese PVP players no matter they soloq or premade queue

I will not trust Nost anymore cuz ur behavier of racial discrimination

Lol at this guy. Fam read the ToS, then you might wanna revisit your statement.

Edited February 27, 2017 by Iliilliill
missed few words

[Iliilliill 0]

On ‎24‎.‎2‎.‎2017‎ г. at 11:12 PM, Heglamore said:

They recently passworded the China-channel on Alliance side, so we can no longer tell what they're up to. :-P

That's more to a reason, to believe the ban waves are justified. IF they were innocent they would cooperate and provide evidence - but all we see is "din du nuffin" attitude and restriction over communication channels. Quite the opposite of innocent way of conducting.  

[Greenkarma 1]

Glad to see action.

Gold selling is out of control, whisper and mail is full with spam.Notably last week got 2x whispers and mail from gold sellers. They got some delivery with gold or smth?

Ban all of them wintraders and other little bastards, don''t want to play the game fair *uck off then,

[Erjh8765 19]

On 24/2/2017 at 4:04 PM, Kazuma said:

Seems like Elysium doesn't learn from the past.

Nostalrius already had to ban tons of chinese wintraders, same is happening all over again.

Isn't it a coincidence that it's always the asian part of the population. Maybe a more thorough investigation is demanded on this part of population.

Im sure more shady stuff will surface. Like how they boost eachother guilds in bwl and ever joined /china? They talk in some kind of code..

It's all a bunch of automated/cheated crap too make as much money as possible in the least effort amount possible.

Asian part of the population?

Naw man. I have never met a Japanese player, a Mongol player, a Kazakh player, a Yakut player, a Filipino player or a Korean player who was a hacker, win-trade seller, botter, honor seller etc apart from the Chinese.

It is always the Chinese. This has nothing to do with East Asia and even less to do with Asia, meaning the Indian subcontinent.

It's always the freaking Chinese. You know why? Because, 9/10 of these Chinese who play here, are "Professional WoW players" meaning people who play WoW just to earn US dollars and they earn their livelihood in this manner.

These Chinese players are like the plague, and they destroy each and every server they pray upon by selling "services" to mostly North American players.

Each and every Chinese player who posted here is a scumbag, a liar, and a cheat. They should be perma banned without mercy, and the VPN these Chinese use to play here should be banned also.

There are "east asian" flavor MMO's that the mainstream Chinese players play back in China, and they are made in China, Korea or Japan. Next to nobody plays WoW in China, and those who do so do it not because they enjoy it, they do it for the money.

They are liars, scumbags and cheap dollar wh0res, like the whores in Guangzhou port.

[Yeehaw 0]

We all need to abide by the rules of the game, but some people are innocent, it has nothing to do with politics, some people like to eat the apple, some people like to eat pears.

[Heglamore 1]

4 hours ago, Erjh8765 said:

Asian part of the population?

Naw man. I have never met a Japanese player, a Mongol player, a Kazakh player, a Yakut player, a Filipino player or a Korean player who was a hacker, win-trade seller, botter, honor seller etc apart from the Chinese.

It is always the Chinese. This has nothing to do with East Asia and even less to do with Asia, meaning the Indian subcontinent.

It's always the freaking Chinese. You know why? Because, 9/10 of these Chinese who play here, are "Professional WoW players" meaning people who play WoW just to earn US dollars and they earn their livelihood in this manner.

These Chinese players are like the plague, and they destroy each and every server they pray upon by selling "services" to mostly North American players.

Each and every Chinese player who posted here is a scumbag, a liar, and a cheat. They should be perma banned without mercy, and the VPN these Chinese use to play here should be banned also.

There are "east asian" flavor MMO's that the mainstream Chinese players play back in China, and they are made in China, Korea or Japan. Next to nobody plays WoW in China, and those who do so do it not because they enjoy it, they do it for the money.

They are liars, scumbags and cheap dollar wh0res, like the whores in Guangzhou port.

 

I've met one Japanese player who was. I have met some Chinese players who also argue pretty openly against those tactics.

I am not a fan of some of the tactics used -- but I know I do have some Chinese players who I have enjoyed playing with who don't deserve (and did not receive) a ban who are not involved in this mess.

I disagree with banning all of the Chinese because a few, or even if it was a majority that were 'bad'. Guilty until proven innocent is kinda bullshit. 

[kilimaw 3]

You were so close. Then this part.

15 hours ago, Erjh8765 said:

selling "services" to mostly North American players.

Edited February 28, 2017 by kilimaw

[xingshen22 0]

On 2017/2/27 at 8:26 PM, Erjh8765 said:

Asian part of the population?

Naw man. I have never met a Japanese player, a Mongol player, a Kazakh player, a Yakut player, a Filipino player or a Korean player who was a hacker, win-trade seller, botter, honor seller etc apart from the Chinese.

It is always the Chinese. This has nothing to do with East Asia and even less to do with Asia, meaning the Indian subcontinent.

It's always the freaking Chinese. You know why? Because, 9/10 of these Chinese who play here, are "Professional WoW players" meaning people who play WoW just to earn US dollars and they earn their livelihood in this manner.

These Chinese players are like the plague, and they destroy each and every server they pray upon by selling "services" to mostly North American players.

Each and every Chinese player who posted here is a scumbag, a liar, and a cheat. They should be perma banned without mercy, and the VPN these Chinese use to play here should be banned also.

There are "east asian" flavor MMO's that the mainstream Chinese players play back in China, and they are made in China, Korea or Japan. Next to nobody plays WoW in China, and those who do so do it not because they enjoy it, they do it for the money.

They are liars, scumbags and cheap dollar wh0res, like the whores in Guangzhou port.

You this kind of extreme speech, let me feel your childhood misfortune. I am a Chinese and I love it very much since I came here. I built a gnome warrior, and I've been working from level 1 to level 60. And started a very difficult journey. I did not do anything wrong, I am trying to recommend to friends here, so I and my 3 best friends, enjoy the continent together. Yes, we are all chinese. We don't know when and where it's going to hurt you.

[Pottu 290]

Some players have had their permanent bans converted to 7 day bans to be in line with previous PvP sanctions. Those accounts are now playable again.

[nhtz 0]

 Pottu,it that means others permanent, no appeal?? no chance????