"The Catalysts" Guild Ethics

[Drunkmonk 0]

just fyi to the world of Elysium,
 

Obviously it would benefit other classes more but when it is best in slot for a Hunter at this point and Kugara & his guild confirms NO reserves on an UBRS run and when you win a roll on Dal Rends and it is awarded to one of his guild mates it reflects poor ethical values.

Have a wonderful day :)

[Ulaani 0]

'Obviously it would benefit other classes more'

When you have 4 warriors and a rogue in your group   ,you would expect some common sense in these situations...

But hey ,you're a hunter  and you need everything, even if its an offhand with +10 def slapped onto it that you will use as a statstick.

Catalysts never reserve anything  on their runs.

Our hunters would  never roll on that and we treated you like one of our own.

And as if that wasn't enough you quit the raid and pull the pack hoping to wipe us -this speaks volumes about you.

 

Man up and stop crying.

 

Have an extraordinary week :)

 

Edited March 7, 2017 by Ulaani

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

Another piece of trash huntard reveals his true colors of brown/red stains.

[Zakkur 0]

8 hours ago, Ulaani said:

'Obviously it would benefit other classes more'

When you have 4 warriors and a rogue in your group   ,you would expect some common sense in these situations...

But hey ,you're a hunter  and you need everything, even if its an offhand with +10 def slapped onto it that you will use as a statstick.

Catalysts never reserve anything  on their runs.

Our hunters would  never roll on that and we treated you like one of our own.

And as if that wasn't enough you quit the raid and pull the pack hoping to wipe us -this speaks volumes about you.

 

Man up and stop crying.

 

Have an extraordinary week :)

 

Well, if you are part of The Catalysts, that means his story is true. Your guild is a bunch of ninjas. Just like how melee roll on the Blackcrow from Lbrs against hunters for their range bis, why can't a hunter roll on his melee bis? And he wasn't part of your guild so why does he have to follow your loot rules if nothing is reserved?

[Ulaani 0]

'Well, if you are part of The Catalysts, that means his story is true. Your guild is a bunch of ninjas'

So, if i am a memeber of catalysts that  means that they are   a bunch of ninjas?.

Makes perfect sense.

''why can't a hunter roll on his melee bis?'

Cause its a ranged class?

Cause there are melee in the group who need that to complete the set....

Not reseirving stuff doesn't mean that you can go on a brainless rolling spree  - just  ' cause, y'know ,it's not reservered.

Have you read the first sentence in his post ?

 

Brain is a rare luxury these days.

 

Edited March 7, 2017 by Ulaani

[Hurricane2 2]

1 hour ago, Ulaani said:

'Well, if you are part of The Catalysts, that means his story is true. Your guild is a bunch of ninjas'

So, if i am a memeber of catalysts that  means that they are   a bunch of ninjas?.

Makes perfect sense.

''why can't a hunter roll on his melee bis?'

Cause its a ranged class?

Cause there are melee in the group who need that to complete the set....

Not reseirving stuff doesn't mean that you can go on a brainless rolling spree  - just  ' cause, y'know ,it's not reservered.

Have you read the first sentence in his post ?

 

Brain is a rare luxury these days.

 

Whoever borrowed yours should give it back.  I feel dumber after reading that.

Edited March 7, 2017 by Hurricane2
How does your post say it's edited and still come out so poorly?

[Aziz 1]

Complete ninja move by the masterlooter if this is true. No other way of putting it.

[Zakkur 0]

10 hours ago, Ulaani said:

'Well, if you are part of The Catalysts, that means his story is true. Your guild is a bunch of ninjas'

So, if i am a memeber of catalysts that  means that they are   a bunch of ninjas?.

-Yes, because that means you confirm his story with your post. He rolled highest and your guild refused to give it to him and gave it to your own.

Makes perfect sense.

''why can't a hunter roll on his melee bis?'

Cause its a ranged class?

-Ranged classes have a melee slot, same as melee that has a ranged slot. Good luck finding a raid if you go with an empty slot.

Cause there are melee in the group who need that to complete the set....

-Dal-rend set is bis for hunters as well, what is your point.

Not reseirving stuff doesn't mean that you can go on a brainless rolling spree  - just  ' cause, y'know ,it's not reservered.

-He didn't roll on a felstriker or briarweed trinket, he rolled on his bis weapon

Have you read the first sentence in his post ?

 

Brain is a rare luxury these days.

 

Here are the facts from his post and yours.

1) Ubrs run was no items reserved

2) Leader changed loot to Masterloot (why would you change it in a no reserved run unless you are ninjaing)

3) Non guildy won the roll for his bis item

4) Leader refused to give it and gave it to his guildmate instead

Due to the facts, The Catalysts are ninjas, you may make excuses but it is the truth.

[flowqz 34]

considering melees also roll on the 1% hit xbow in lbrs id demand on rolling on dalrend weapons (cause its bis till zg).

[mytchi3 1]

Hunter rolling on dalrends is useless and if you did i dont want you in my group. That guild would be stupid to give it to you

[Hurricane2 2]

Define useless because I don't think you understand the term or its application in this case.

[Zakkur 0]

9 hours ago, mytchi3 said:

Hunter rolling on dalrends is useless and if you did i dont want you in my group. That guild would be stupid to give it to you

Useless would be rolling on Felstriker since hunters won't ever proc the crit on it. Dal rends give 1% crit and 50ap which increases range dps. The guild wasn't stupid, they were most probably gonna ninja against any other class not in their guild and use some other random excuse. They made it master loot in a non-reserved run.

[TTL 6]

16 hours ago, mytchi3 said:

Hunter rolling on dalrends is useless and if you did i dont want you in my group. That guild would be stupid to give it to you

Explain your logic other than full retard mode?

Dal'rends are BiS stats for a few classes, while we can argue they are more beneficial to a rogue because combat spec swords actually scales on the weapon damage and they are just a stat stick for hunters doesn't change the FACT it's still BiS for both classes.

Either don't invite hunters in your group, or make them a reserve otherwise you're just a retard wasting everyone else's time and being a ninja by denying others what they should have a equal chance to get in a non-reserved group.

As for the x'bow comment, it's not BiS but 2nd BiS for hunters to start with, secondly this is why you don't bring a hunter in your 5 man party if it's an item you want to get otherwise yeah, hunter can roll on it too.

[mytchi3 1]

4 hours ago, TTL said:

Explain your logic other than full retard mode?

Dal'rends are BiS stats for a few classes, while we can argue they are more beneficial to a rogue because combat spec swords actually scales on the weapon damage and they are just a stat stick for hunters doesn't change the FACT it's still BiS for both classes.

Either don't invite hunters in your group, or make them a reserve otherwise you're just a retard wasting everyone else's time and being a ninja by denying others what they should have a equal chance to get in a non-reserved group.

As for the x'bow comment, it's not BiS but 2nd BiS for hunters to start with, secondly this is why you don't bring a hunter in your 5 man party if it's an item you want to get otherwise yeah, hunter can roll on it too.

Because hunters can get better other quest drops and boe cheap blues that will match this while missing only maybe 15-20 AP. So no taking this weapon as zour stat stick instead of rogue or warrior makes no sense becuase you can easily get equivalent. 

Next time ask if you can roll for it if you came only for that item. Dont assume.

[TTL 6]

1 minute ago, mytchi3 said:

Because hunters can get better other quest drops and boe cheap blues that will match this while missing only maybe 15-20 AP. So no taking this weapon as zour stat stick instead of rogue or warrior makes no sense becuase you can easily get equivalent. 

Next time ask if you can roll for it if you came only for that item. Dont assume.

I think the problem here is rogues assuming they are gods and control everything, I play a rogue so not being biased here. Hunters BiS is hunters BiS.... if you don't want a hunter to roll on it either 1) reserve it, or 2) don't invite them.

Denying BiS drops to people is clearly ninja looting in non-reserved groups.

[mytchi3 1]

50 minutes ago, TTL said:

I think the problem here is rogues assuming they are gods and control everything, I play a rogue so not being biased here. Hunters BiS is hunters BiS.... if you don't want a hunter to roll on it either 1) reserve it, or 2) don't invite them.

Denying BiS drops to people is clearly ninja looting in non-reserved groups.

Im all for this i play rogue aswell and i know what ubrs runs are without or with reserves so i went straight to sword of zeal instead of that cancerous dalrend combo. Make reserved runs or dont let them join if you wont let them roll on it.

Same exact situation will happen later in BWL with DFT and hunters.Its bis for them also but usually its prio for rogues and furys but if i joined pug as hunter i'd like fair roll on it also as pug 

[Zakkur 0]

3 hours ago, mytchi3 said:

Same exact situation will happen later in BWL with DFT and hunters.Its bis for them also but usually its prio for rogues and furys but if i joined pug as hunter i'd like fair roll on it also as pug 

If in a guild run, I also believe that it is more prio to melee but it wasn't. It was a pug run with no reserved where pugs were forcefully made to submit to the guild rules.

Also we ain't here to discuss if Hunters should pass melee weapons to Warriors/Rogues or if Warriors/Rogues should pass ranged weapons to Ranged classes. We are here to discuss if The Catalysts ninjaed and they did.