AzAMOuS 2 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 I find it kind of weird how you think you can vouch for the vanilla movement after the very unprofessional announcement you most recently made; even though you wish to dissociate yourself with the drama, I really don't see how you can act like Elysium will continue Nostalrius's vanilla movement, sorry, factors have weighed up and... not gonna happen. Stick to improving the server and showing people that you're mature and that we can put our trust in you instead of making such statements. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illutian 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 Seeing the posts about ZK's pop. I would say ZK should have been rolled out as a 'fresh start' PVE server. Don't gimme the crap that Darrowshire is. It's not. It was running [as Nost PVE] for about two months before Nost shutdown. I get why ZK was made PVP, because Elysium was capping daily, but how many of those people would have been "okay" with the new server being PVE? ...then just delay 1.12 for a few extra months to get the other server caught up and see if a merge between Nost servers and Elysium servers is needed. Realistically, the project can only afford two server of each type. Maybe down the road if the project plans to go 'beyond vanilla', more servers can be added. But right now. It's not in the budget. ---- I would also suggest making a Patreon to fund the server. I think it'd be better to look and say "oh we're going to fundraise another $500 this month to cover" than "oh shit, we need $3k...like right the fuck now!". 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mahtan 15 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, illutian said: Seeing the posts about ZK's pop. I would say ZK should have been rolled out as a 'fresh start' PVE server. Don't gimme the crap that Darrowshire is. It's not. It was running [as Nost PVE] for about two months before Nost shutdown. I get why ZK was made PVP, because Elysium was capping daily, but how many of those people would have been "okay" with the new server being PVE? ...then just delay 1.12 for a few extra months to get the other server caught up and see if a merge between Nost servers and Elysium servers is needed. Realistically, the project can only afford two server of each type. Maybe down the road if the project plans to go 'beyond vanilla', more servers can be added. But right now. It's not in the budget. ---- I would also suggest making a Patreon to fund the server. I think it'd be better to look and say "oh we're going to fundraise another $500 this month to cover" than "oh shit, we need $3k...like right the fuck now!". Darrowshire is a great server! <3<3<3 Darrowshire <3<3<3 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 8:46 AM, Shenna said: Here are the expiration dates for our machines: Anathema: September 2017 Darrowshire: October 2017 Zeth’Kur: May 2017 Elysium: October 2017 Website: October 2017 Backup Server: June 2017 Quit asking about if/when Zeth gonna be merged with Elysium. Your answer is in the OP. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indi 10 Report post Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Undertanker said: Quit asking about if/when Zeth gonna be merged with Elysium. Your answer is in the OP. Theres going to be half a dozen people left on Zeth by the time May comes around, kek. Thought this was relevant, Zeth is now "peaking" 1.4k~ on Friday night and bottoming out around 700. If that isn't a population death spiral I don't know what is. Source: http://vanillaradar.com/elysium-stats/zethkur/ Edited March 17, 2017 by indi 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abn 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) so what you gonna nerf the rank 12-13 gear yet you dont do it on anathema?, do you plan to buff them back to their normal stats when bwl comes out ? no wonder people instant stop pvping when this update came, good way to just complete fuck the will to rank :D anyways, when can we expect the set to be buff again, with bwl? or aq? Edited March 19, 2017 by Abn 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plumpfoliage 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 I'm so happy to hear the game isn't going anywhere. Retail is so bad that I just can't go back. Oh, Obe Wan. You're my last hope. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozamra 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Abn said: so what you gonna nerf the rank 12-13 gear yet you dont do it on anathema?, do you plan to buff them back to their normal stats when bwl comes out ? no wonder people instant stop pvping when this update came, good way to just complete fuck the will to rank :D anyways, when can we expect the set to be buff again, with bwl? or aq? Their plan is to have the R12-13 gear on Elysium buffed 2 weeks after AQ40 / When AQ40 has been cleared, at which point the set isn't good for anyone but mages. This is why so many casters have dropped out of ranking compared to melees - and I expect it to get worse as most casters drop off at a lower rank than melees as well. Personally I think ranking gear should be updated about 3-4 months into MC for optimally PvP community - it's incredibly fun with a huge pvp scene and it really draws good PR to the server. And MC is easy, that's how how it is, the only way to make MC challenging is to progressively make it's mechanics more punishing / dynamic with some higher HP to combat stronger gear. At the end of the day people just want to play with others - generally they dont want to play on a 500 pop server with shit items, they want to play on a high pop server with good rewards for "hard work". And I say generally, I know some people that really love playing on empty servers with 1-2 guilds struggling to raidlog but these are very few. Elysium did inform us they would keep the gear nerfed until AQ to make PvE more diffuclt at the cost of discouraging PvP before they opened the servers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abn 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Rozamra said: Their plan is to have the R12-13 gear on Elysium buffed 2 weeks after AQ40 / When AQ40 has been cleared, at which point the set isn't good for anyone but mages. This is why so many casters have dropped out of ranking compared to melees - and I expect it to get worse as most casters drop off at a lower rank than melees as well. Personally I think ranking gear should be updated about 3-4 months into MC for optimally PvP community - it's incredibly fun with a huge pvp scene and it really draws good PR to the server. And MC is easy, that's how how it is, the only way to make MC challenging is to progressively make it's mechanics more punishing / dynamic with some higher HP to combat stronger gear. At the end of the day people just want to play with others - generally they dont want to play on a 500 pop server with shit items, they want to play on a high pop server with good rewards for "hard work". And I say generally, I know some people that really love playing on empty servers with 1-2 guilds struggling to raidlog but these are very few. Elysium did inform us they would keep the gear nerfed until AQ to make PvE more diffuclt at the cost of discouraging PvP before they opened the servers. right now all the ranker's are in a core guilds. either praise grizzly demise, witch all 3 guilds Steamroll everything, with bwl, they gonna steam roll everything again, you are targeting a group of people that already no matter how much you nerf gear, is gonna steam roll everything, so making the game harder not really. they're clearing everything anyways, the second core of players that gonna rank dont wanna rank anymore, cuz of the nerfede gear its gonna be pure warriors,rogues maybe hunters to rank 12 I really think you should rethink this over again, and come up with a CLEAR plan, so everyone know. They're not even saying they want to buff it again with the AQ release(if they have im sorry, haven't seen it) As you said, a buff to be set mid AV-BWL patch or BWL(1-2 weeks in) would be the right time to buff em again, if you dont, you gonna have random pugs doing some ab-WSG for fun with 30-2 hours que times(at least for horde) the server gonna be more and more raid logging with it too, the cost of FAP/ engineering tings gonna drop in price on ah and so on. there is a reason why vanilla servers dont touch the pvp gear ^v^ Edited March 20, 2017 by Abn 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rozamra 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Abn said: right now all the ranker's are in a core guilds. either praise grizzly demise, witch all 3 guilds Steamroll everything, with bwl, they gonna steam roll everything again, you are targeting a group of people that already no matter how much you nerf gear, is gonna steam roll everything, so making the game harder not really. they're clearing everything anyways, the second core of players that gonna rank dont wanna rank anymore, cuz of the nerfede gear its gonna be pure warriors,rogues maybe hunters to rank 12 I really think you should rethink this over again, and come up with a CLEAR plan, so everyone know. They dont even say they want to buff it again with the AQ release As you said, a buff to be set mid AV-BWL patch or BWL(1-2 weeks in) would be the right time to buff em again, if you dont, you gonna have random pugs doing some ab-WSG for fun with 30-2 hours que times(at least for horde) the server gonna be more and more raid logging with it too, the cost of FAP/ engineering tings gonna drop in price on ah and so on. there is a reason why vanilla servers dont touch the pvp gear ^v^ Pretty much. I never meant to imply I wanted a huge buff in current content difficulty - to balance vanilla content you would have to remove all but class buffs in raid etc. otherwise once you wipe you'd have to go out and get them again was the content balanced around full world buffs + consumables(I don't really care too much I just want a strong healthy pvp realm that encourages people) I know the queues are already a little meh for hordes, and they would for sure get far worse as you say should nothing be done... I hope they will figure out they should buff the sets before it annoys too many people. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L44K34 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 3:08 AM, indi said: Can you merge Elysium and Zeth'Kur already, its getting real harsh seeing 700 lows while struggling to break 2k at peak. How are the pops between the two? i havent rolled on any realm yet fresh install googled about what realm is best for Elysium Project but didnt find anything. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mytchi3 1 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, L44K34 said: How are the pops between the two? i havent rolled on any realm yet fresh install googled about what realm is best for Elysium Project but didnt find anything. Roll anathema. new. People every day and you get to raid aq soon also 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dish 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 On 17/03/2017 at 8:16 PM, illutian said: Seeing the posts about ZK's pop. I would say ZK should have been rolled out as a 'fresh start' PVE server. Don't gimme the crap that Darrowshire is. It's not. It was running [as Nost PVE] for about two months before Nost shutdown. I get why ZK was made PVP, because Elysium was capping daily, but how many of those people would have been "okay" with the new server being PVE? ...then just delay 1.12 for a few extra months to get the other server caught up and see if a merge between Nost servers and Elysium servers is needed. Realistically, the project can only afford two server of each type. Maybe down the road if the project plans to go 'beyond vanilla', more servers can be added. But right now. It's not in the budget. ---- I would also suggest making a Patreon to fund the server. I think it'd be better to look and say "oh we're going to fundraise another $500 this month to cover" than "oh shit, we need $3k...like right the fuck now!". Yeah, because making a fresh PvE server with a current max. population of 3k on Darrowshire makes total sense... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites