This needs to stop

[ProMeTheus112 1]

3 minutes ago, Vod said:

Crying on the forums really helps you quest, doesn't it?

not at all why you thought so?

[Vod 0]

1 minute ago, ProMeTheus112 said:

not at all why you thought so?

Well then why are you crying about "noob gankers" in the other post?

[ProMeTheus112 1]

Just now, Vod said:

Well then why are you crying about "noob gankers" in the other post?

why are you crying about me? I'm not writing this to help me questing. Are you helping your own questing now or mine?
I'm fine, I know noob gankers like to say stuff like "git gud", I don't think they really believe it has anything to do with "getting good" unless they have never known what skill is :/

[Justme 9]

3 hours ago, ProMeTheus112 said:

why are you crying about me? I'm not writing this to help me questing. Are you helping your own questing now or mine?
I'm fine, I know noob gankers like to say stuff like "git gud", I don't think they really believe it has anything to do with "getting good" unless they have never known what skill is :/

Getting good and having skill are unrelated. You can be the best 1v1 pvp player in the world and still be a bad for getting camped in BRD 1v5. There are multiple ways to avoid that situation

[Honey 0]

I left Elysium and plan to go Darrowshire, my main goals in game are to get into raiding, I love especially tanking in raids, but this server does not lets say establish that possibility for me, there is just too much Horde, in addition to making questing impossible on high level areas in the addition of major quests.

But in addition most of Horde kill you on sight, not just the same level, but the most of high levels as well, who hang around in the leveling zones because they spawn camp fire elementals for Elemental Fire which goes for a high price in AH atm or just kill you for the fun of it, which again I think does not come hand in hand with the ideals of "PvP" is as it is making the game almost impossible to play.

Again these individuals think, they are smart and funny but actually are very foolish as I explain later on.

The community when compared with my memories of pretbc or even with current retail is very toxic too, people act here very rudely and call each other more or less "retard" 24/7, also most of people are too unintelligent to face the fact that if the faction balance gets disturbed even a bit, it basically means it will slowly descent to the point where there is no other faction and where there is no other faction on PvP realm, it means there is no PvP either, which makes the whole server more or elss completely useless.

No world PvP, ques will take days for Horde, no anything, because of the naivety of the community and I have seen this happen in retail, this is why Blizz, did a lot of free character migration and introduced cross-realms as the ultimate problem solver.

E:

I highly suggest the GM team to give longer mutes / bans and more of them to the players as the current amount is clearly not enough, also camping and blocking people from entering a dungeon with a high lvl character is NOT World PvP, it's just gaining pleasure of making the game impossible for others.

[TTL 6]

7 hours ago, Honey said:

 

I highly suggest the GM team to give longer mutes / bans and more of them to the players as the current amount is clearly not enough, also camping and blocking people from entering a dungeon with a high lvl character is NOT World PvP, it's just gaining pleasure of making the game impossible for others.

Actually it is World PvP, that's just a fact that you may disagree with, doesn't mean it's not accurate.

[Vollfos 2]

Honey ,

At the first 3 weeks of release i needed 1 hour playtime  more at every lvl for my warrior,  just because the server was in every zone overcrowded and you had to deal 1v5 all the time with horde of the same lvl.

As second you had to deal with the same faction aswell to get the questmobs which were spawncamped aswell.

It wasnt better.it was way worse then now 

I just lvl an alt and have to say its so much easier now , not that the amount of player which lvling is not even a quater.

The amount of ganks at lvl 30 - 50 are way less aswell.

 

I defenitly would have had 2 days playtime to 60 less with my warrior if i would hin lvling now.

 

And sidenote , if you are love to tanking in raids , goodr  luck!  

The demand of tanks at alliance on elysium and darrowshire is such low because there are already more than enough there, dont know hows on horde side. But now getting a tank raidslot which is fresh 60 goes to zero 

[Honey 0]

On 20.4.2017 at 8:35 AM, TTL said:

Actually it is World PvP, that's just a fact that you may disagree with, doesn't mean it's not accurate.

So your ideal gameplay is running for the mountains beating up boars with fists because every time you enter the real game content you get slaughtered by high level players who act like a punch of pricks?

Good luck with that, I'll pass by goodwill and go to the PvE realm.

[Palladig 0]

People just don't get it, getting killed by rank 8+ mages as soon as you enter a zoone over and over again aint fun or interactive in any way. 

It's not about crying or ranting, it's just stating the fact that being a dick (even if it is your right to kill any1 you want) ruins the fun for other people. And if the game aint fun people quit, and then you are stuck with even larger gaps between horde and alliance and bg queues gets even longer.

 

[Honey 0]

1 minute ago, Palladig said:

People just don't get it, getting killed by rank 8+ mages as soon as you enter a zoone over and over again aint fun or interactive in any way. 

It's not about crying or ranting, it's just stating the fact that being a dick (even if it is your right to kill any1 you want) ruins the fun for other people. And if the game aint fun people quit, and then you are stuck with even larger gaps between horde and alliance and bg queues gets even longer.

Yah exactly this, the game is just absolutely unplayable, you're wasting your time trying to play the game, this happened once to me on retail where I played on the Horde on a server which had one of the biggest Alliance populations, I took pause from there for 2 years and when I came back where ever I was I got punch in the face and ended up dead, so the GMs proposed I change the realm.

 

Also I've noticed when this kind of thing happens, people lose all respect and "if it's red, it's dead" steps in and just everyone who sees you kills you and people just end up as total pricks and yell about crying and moaning cuz they enjoy killing the losing.

[TTL 6]

1 hour ago, Honey said:

So your ideal gameplay is running for the mountains beating up boars with fists because every time you enter the real game content you get slaughtered by high level players who act like a punch of pricks?

Good luck with that, I'll pass by goodwill and go to the PvE realm.

Did I say that? No. Get a grip, just pointing out the reality you were clearing ignoring. If you can't deal with the heat of a PvP server then the PvE one is for you so we don't have to see pointless threads like this.

[Hurricane2 2]

2 hours ago, Palladig said:

People just don't get it, getting killed by rank 8+ mages as soon as you enter a zoone over and over again aint fun or interactive in any way. 

It's not about crying or ranting, it's just stating the fact that being a dick (even if it is your right to kill any1 you want) ruins the fun for other people. And if the game aint fun people quit, and then you are stuck with even larger gaps between horde and alliance and bg queues gets even longer.

That's just an opinion and is a very care bear attitude.  If someone quits because they get owned on a PvP server then good riddance...

2 hours ago, Honey said:

Yah exactly this, the game is just absolutely unplayable, you're wasting your time trying to play the game, this happened once to me on retail where I played on the Horde on a server which had one of the biggest Alliance populations, I took pause from there for 2 years and when I came back where ever I was I got punch in the face and ended up dead, so the GMs proposed I change the realm.

Also I've noticed when this kind of thing happens, people lose all respect and "if it's red, it's dead" steps in and just everyone who sees you kills you and people just end up as total pricks and yell about crying and moaning cuz they enjoy killing the losing.

This is what I mean.  He couldn't handle the PvP so he wisely moved on.  Calling people pricks for pvp'n on a pvp server is just absurd.

[Palladig 0]

3 hours ago, Hurricane2 said:

That's just an opinion and is a very care bear attitude.  If someone quits because they get owned on a PvP server then good riddance...

NO! it's not "just an opinoin". If u think anyone think its FUN to get killed you're plain stupid..

You don't play a game to loose, it's just a risk that makes the reward mean something. And sure, pvp battle can be enjoyable even if you end up dead in the end. But to contantly corpsrun because the area is crowded with players WAY above your level is not something anyone enjoys. Most people accept it as a part of the game, but some dont.

When the balance is broken it's just a stupid experience and in the end noone gains from it.

 

[Hurricane2 2]

9 minutes ago, Palladig said:

NO! it's not "just an opinoin". If u think anyone think its FUN to get killed you're plain stupid..

And sure, pvp battle can be enjoyable even if you end up dead in the end.

Some of my favorite video game memories are fights where I was out numbered but had fun putting up a fight against overwhelming odds.

[Caltrix 0]

24 minutes ago, Palladig said:

NO! it's not "just an opinoin". If u think anyone think its FUN to get killed you're plain stupid..

You don't play a game to loose, it's just a risk that makes the reward mean something. And sure, pvp battle can be enjoyable even if you end up dead in the end. But to contantly corpsrun because the area is crowded with players WAY above your level is not something anyone enjoys. Most people accept it as a part of the game, but some dont.

When the balance is broken it's just a stupid experience and in the end noone gains from it.

 

No, it's just an opinion.

[Justme 9]

27 minutes ago, Palladig said:

NO! it's not "just an opinoin". If u think anyone think its FUN to get killed you're plain stupid..

You don't play a game to loose, it's just a risk that makes the reward mean something. And sure, pvp battle can be enjoyable even if you end up dead in the end. But to contantly corpsrun because the area is crowded with players WAY above your level is not something anyone enjoys. Most people accept it as a part of the game, but some dont.

When the balance is broken it's just a stupid experience and in the end noone gains from it.

 

There is an ingame function to make the horde stop. Fuk you for not using it tho. lazy cnt

[nvreeland 0]

see thats funny because i have some 58 alliance rogue while i was 52 that followed me around searing gorge for hours stealthing and honor farming me while i tried to quest and i didnt come here and post about it.

[nvreeland 0]

53 minutes ago, Palladig said:

NO! it's not "just an opinoin". If u think anyone think its FUN to get killed you're plain stupid..

You don't play a game to loose, it's just a risk that makes the reward mean something. And sure, pvp battle can be enjoyable even if you end up dead in the end. But to contantly corpsrun because the area is crowded with players WAY above your level is not something anyone enjoys. Most people accept it as a part of the game, but some dont.

When the balance is broken it's just a stupid experience and in the end noone gains from it.

 

it's not supposed to be fun you idiot, it is supposed to make it more challenging, like when you chose your level on doom.

[Some1 0]

If horde wants to make their BG queue longer by preventing their competition from leveling it's their choice. It's a video game, do whatever is fun, both sides have their pro/con. Horde gets more downtime and less action but have the numbers to win more often (wpvp only). Alliance has a harder time leveling but get instant action and don't have to stare at a BG timer for 15 minutes.

[ProMeTheus112 1]

Agree with Hurricane (ofc). Always seen this as a flaw of the game : some things are imbalanced, a bit too much crowd control, most importantly too great power difference per level, and just the fact that you can freely attack a grey who can't really retaliate at all pretty much breaks the game and wastes your time if you are the grey. Then it's all about population balance.

The game is great obviously, best MMO for world pvp right? but some guys like to make it as bad as possible for others, for their enjoyment. And it makes things worse whenever somewhere is overcrowded. If people want to make it better I think it's best to try and avoid doing things such as attacking greys, or bashing someone who just doesn't stand a chance, or generally wasting someone's time and preventing them to play the game. Sure you can do that, but if you don't and you try to show others that they don't have to either, the world will be a better place and the pvp more awesome ^_^

[so far haven't suffered this at all on Elysium, but I'm not even 20 yet, I've seen some reds who didn't attack me]

[usually I only attack yellows oranges or reds, might make exception and attack greens if they are more numerous]

[csant 3]

Pro - are you alliance or horde? if you are alliance.. you will soon see how bad it is. if you are horde it's pretty much smooth sailing, sure you will see a skull every now and then... but not as bad as alliance have it. 

[ProMeTheus112 1]

alliance, I'm in Ashenvale now, if it gets bad in Stranglethorn I will probably leave and maybe try Anathema or just quit^^? But I might also just stick to ashenvale somehow. I do have a unstarted horde char.. I don't like too easy either.. lol it feels like its tough to find the right place to be and you have to invest quite a bit before you know where you are

[Some1 0]

8 minutes ago, ProMeTheus112 said:

alliance, I'm in Ashenvale now, if it gets bad in Stranglethorn I will probably leave and maybe try Anathema or just quit^^? But I might also just stick to ashenvale somehow. I do have a unstarted horde char.. I don't like too easy either.. lol it feels like its tough to find the right place to be and you have to invest quite a bit before you know where you are

If you suspect that it's going to be the reason you quit then my suggestion would be to change servers now or avoid that zone and level other ways. The only zone in the entire game that has more players in it is The Barrens (horde) so the odds that you'll be ganked many times as alliance are insanely high.

[Moonforest 0]

Nothing has to stop, even if your right when you say that leveling an alliance toon is a pretty rough thing.
I'm currently near to 53 like you and of course i get ganked like everyone else.
Sometimes, like 1 week ago more or less, i was in Tanaris, killing pirates in their acampment for the hats quest and i was the ONLY alliance guy surrounded by like 15 horde, i know that feeling.

You can't avoid to be ganked by people who actually enjoy to gank everything red they see (i personally don't, but can we really blame them? It's a part of the game, not my part, not your part, but well that's it).
BUT, from my experience during aaall those years.. 
Go back on my experience in Tanaris, i actually had three options:
- Flee away
- Start doing my things hoping that 15 people from the opposite faction are good sport
- "Mind games"..

What I mean with "mind games"?
Simply, I was killing my first pirates when i saw a mage and a priest struggling with a huge bunch of mobs (caused by the typical mage ultrapull). I could let them die, but I decided to help them, and without my aid they would be dead for sure. They thanked me and I kept on killing mobs outside the acampment (so, me and those 2 guys outide [+ other 3] and like 10 hordes inside).
Mobs runned out, so I had to enter the acampment, and I entered there after the 2 guys I helped. 
After two seconds a warrior charged me, then, the priest told something in /say, presumibly to not gank me because I helped them. And the warrior went back to his stuffs.
End of the story, I did my quest (that took 1 hour) in peace, surrounded by the enemy and none attached me. And something like that happened more than one time during my leveling experience.

Obviously i was lucky, because these two guys could have killed me anyway, or the warrior, etc.

But well, I think that is better to try everything you can instead of complaining on the forums.
(and complaining does nothing but the opposite..)
 

[ProMeTheus112 1]

14 minutes ago, Some1 said:

If you suspect that it's going to be the reason you quit then my suggestion would be to change servers now or avoid that zone and level other ways. The only zone in the entire game that has more players in it is The Barrens (horde) so the odds that you'll be ganked many times as alliance are insanely high.

thanks I'm gonna have a look at Stranglethorn though because I just love this area, didn't like it on nostalrius, will see^^ I love the wild pvp, I just love it, just when it is actual pvp and not repeated /die, wouldn't call that pvp, will see :O