shaman as dps endgame

[oloun 0]

hello guys.even though i played through out vanilla back in 2005 i was ally so i dont know how viable he is .i wanted to be an enha but will i be able to go to dungeons at 60 ubrs or easy stuff like that as enha?what is the mentality of the playerbase towards shaman enha?i will be doing easy stuff like 5 mans and ubrs and then pvp and later when nightfall is introduced i might convince some guild to take me as a prc machine.

so how viable are those goals having in mind the mentality of the players?

[csant 3]

I would try and join a guild and work with that otherwise the community as a whole won't welcome you into pugs. I'm ele for pvp and I hardly get invited to dps in ubrs, strat, sholo, dm. Now when I want to heal I have no problem getting into those instances. I love a shaman that was spec full resto telling I couldn't heal as ele in a ubrs run and he died to the Rend event and I ended up solo healing the end with no problems. =) 

People aren't kind to hybrids in vanilla. FYI... 

[Whitewolf 1]

Enhancement Shaman are great for melee groups. Windfury totem and Strength of Earth totem should be enough to cement your spot in a melee group. You also provide other utility such as resistance and group threat control.

[Software 9]

14 hours ago, Whitewolf said:

Enhancement Shaman are great for melee groups. Windfury totem and Strength of Earth totem should be enough to cement your spot in a melee group. You also provide other utility such as resistance and group threat control.

A resto shaman can also provide a melee group with those same buffs.

[oloun 0]

well yeah as i thought....i would like to try out a shaman but healing only at 60 isnt something that appeals to me right now.

[csant 3]

Then pick another class... hybrids this early in vanilla were force to heal if you wanted to raid. 

[Duality 4]

I played with an enha shaman back on Feenix in Naxxramas. She (yes, it was actually a female) did decent dps, never top dps, but neither bottom.
However, this came with a price of heavy consumable usage. You want to use melee elixirs to improve your dps, and mana regen consumables to sustain that dps over longer encounters. Flask of wisdom is a good example, which extends your mana pool by 2000, and mana potions and runes should be consumed on CD.
If you have the time and/or resources to sustain this consumable usage and find yourself an open-minded guild, then give enhancement a shot.
PS: keep in mind that you may be required to respecc to resto on occation to help your guild out.

[Whitewolf 1]

On 5/11/2017 at 0:19 PM, Software said:

A resto shaman can also provide a melee group with those same buffs.

If your raid needs healers then it needs healers. And a resto shaman is many times more useful in a caster group with mana tide totem and mana spring totem. An enhancement shaman is really flexible on where the last 20 talent points go and most likely would put the points in the resto tree anyway for the free hit and healing flexibility.

Not every guild has the pick of the litter and Enhancement shamans more than contribute their fair share when played and used correctly.

[Whitewolf 1]

6 hours ago, Duality said:

I played with an enha shaman back on Feenix in Naxxramas. She (yes, it was actually a female) did decent dps, never top dps, but neither bottom.
However, this came with a price of heavy consumable usage. You want to use melee elixirs to improve your dps, and mana regen consumables to sustain that dps over longer encounters. Flask of wisdom is a good example, which extends your mana pool by 2000, and mana potions and runes should be consumed on CD.
If you have the time and/or resources to sustain this consumable usage and find yourself an open-minded guild, then give enhancement a shot.
PS: keep in mind that you may be required to respecc to resto on occation to help your guild out.

And how much dps and utility did you contribute to your party members? If you add that to your dps total it becomes a much more competitive number.

There is a feral druid on kronos named Tf, and breaking down a few of the numbers he puts out the 3% critical chance aura puts him roughly 2nd place in dps for a few of the raids he has been in. And he has on average 10 ilvl lower gear. People look at the damage meters and assume that is all a dps brings. If you are a hybrid you made your group members even better at the price of lowering your visible contribution.

[trouble 0]

22 hours ago, Duality said:

I played with an enha shaman back on Feenix in Naxxramas. She (yes, it was actually a female) did decent dps, never top dps, but neither bottom.
However, this came with a price of heavy consumable usage. You want to use melee elixirs to improve your dps, and mana regen consumables to sustain that dps over longer encounters. Flask of wisdom is a good example, which extends your mana pool by 2000, and mana potions and runes should be consumed on CD.
If you have the time and/or resources to sustain this consumable usage and find yourself an open-minded guild, then give enhancement a shot.
PS: keep in mind that you may be required to respecc to resto on occation to help your guild out.

Do you remember which weapon she used mate? :)

[Duality 4]

On 13.5.2017 at 0:55 PM, trouble said:

Do you remember which weapon she used mate? :)

Some 2H axe from Naxx.
This one I think: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=22815
She played an orc, hence the +5 axe skill

[jmul1212 7]

If you don't have nightfall don't expect to get into anything as a shaman without having friends get you in.  

It costs about 600g to make, or you can buy it off AH for 700-900.  It's a raid invite, its mandatory.  Even with that said, a BM hunter spamming Rank 1 Wingclip will provide more to a raid with it than a shaman will, it has much better uptime on the proc.  

 

If you want to raid as enhance, get a nightfall and find a more casual guild if you arn't lucky enough to have friends in high places.  

 

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hVcux0hoZxi0dVMh

This is the "enhancement spec" i would recommend for raiding.  Elemental Fury increases crit damage for shocks and searing totem.  Stormstrike is unreliable, and costs a lot of mana for what it does.  EF > SS.  

 

You can also just go resto and take Flurry w/ a nightfall.  You can just heal your group of dps and keep your crap up.  

 

If you want to take raiding seriously, just go Restoration.  

[csant 3]

36 minutes ago, jmul1212 said:

If you don't have nightfall don't expect to get into anything as a shaman without having friends get you in.  

It costs about 600g to make, or you can buy it off AH for 700-900.  It's a raid invite, its mandatory.  Even with that said, a BM hunter spamming Rank 1 Wingclip will provide more to a raid with it than a shaman will, it has much better uptime on the proc.  

 

If you want to raid as enhance, get a nightfall and find a more casual guild if you arn't lucky enough to have friends in high places.  

 

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hVcux0hoZxi0dVMh

This is the "enhancement spec" i would recommend for raiding.  Elemental Fury increases crit damage for shocks and searing totem.  Stormstrike is unreliable, and costs a lot of mana for what it does.  EF > SS.  

 

You can also just go resto and take Flurry w/ a nightfall.  You can just heal your group of dps and keep your crap up.  

 

If you want to take raiding seriously, just go Restoration.  

This is why I dont care to raid again and I love my vanilla guild we raided our way.. was it the best? hell no, did we have hella fun? hell fucking yeah. We had spriest healing/dps, our guild leader was enhance like 80% of the guild raided in pvp specs. 

 

[jmul1212 7]

Just now, csant said:

This is why I dont care to raid again and I love my vanilla guild we raided our way.. was it the best? hell no, did we have hella fun? hell fucking yeah. We had spriest healing/dps, our guild leader was enhance like 80% of the guild raided in pvp specs. 

 

Ohh i know the feeling.  I play pvp enhance in the raiding guild im in, its a EF build.  Its more laid back though, and its nice because it fits my schedule and time i can spend on this game.  I have a nightfall obviously. 

[Rayaleith 2]

Really now. Vanilla raids are the easiest. And you say that they will not invite an enhancement shaman? Please.

[Roidrage 0]

If you want to dps as a Enhancement shaman there are realy one spec thats acyualy better than this WF strength/agility that alot of people are going with. the spec that you should go as an Enhancement shaman if you actualy want to do more dps are: 

Main stats are: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hi0uxohoZxVbdVMhx

1. Spell damage

2. Int

3. Mp 5

4. what ever you want

 

Weapon inbounds: 1. Flametongue and if fire resist you go Frostbrand

Elemental fury do affect FT and FB damage. It also affect some magic procs on weapons. Your high spell crit will proc Elemental devastation alot witch gives you 9% crit on whites dmg. (Its actualy pretty usless talent in strength/agility build.)

On alot of servers FT/FB procs do even affect Flurry don't know yet on this servers. 

Flametongue, with a fitting build, receives the following benefits:

10% of your spell damage

15% increased damage from Elemental Weapons

15% increased damage from Improved Scorch

10% increased damage from Curse of Elements

100% crit damage from Elemental Fury

(Maybe) 10% increased damage from Weapon Mastery

(Maybe) procs Clearcasting

 

This build will make you do more single target dps than the regular WF build.