Hardware, servers, and funds

[metagame 8]

How much will this cost?
100 USD monthly + 300 USD (for one month)  in addition to Anathema+Darrowshire+Elysium server hosting + ~250 USD per month for database replication server.

This is very unclear to me. Does this mean $350 per month plus a single $300 fee? Or does it mean $650 per month? Are you talking about an additional cost per month on top of the other costs of running the server, or is this figure a total cost for running the server?

Please clarify what these numbers mean. This post is very unclear.

[Zyfire 2]

29 minutes ago, metagame said:

 

 

This is very unclear to me. Does this mean $350 per month plus a single $300 fee? Or does it mean $650 per month? Are you talking about an additional cost per month on top of the other costs of running the server, or is this figure a total cost for running the server?

Please clarify what these numbers mean. This post is very unclear.

 

I am very certain it means $350 a month and an additional $300 for the first month, otherwise he would probably simply say $400 per month plus $250 for database replication server ;)

[feracon 0]

14 hours ago, woahwut said:

Fundraising sites take a huge cut and do you actually believe they're running this on Wordpress?

You're that guy that likes to bat down any and all constructive criticism without offering anything in return aren't you? Good effort. 

Define "huge cut", what if the total proceeds are well higher than they would have been without the utility, making the fee obviously worth it?

What makes you think you have to run a fundraising plugin on the same platform you're running forums on? My point is, if you don't want to pay the fee to a fundraising site, throw a squarespace/wordpress install on your already paid for web server, and host it yourself. 

Considering how integral funding is to this entire project's existence, it makes sense to invest in the most optimal fund raising method possible. This shit isnt rocket science. 

 

[mytchi3 1]

Sooner or later you will have to implement Paid race change, gender change, outlook change. Nothing like frantion change or name change. Just stuff like this would be working

[Lifealert 19]

50 minutes ago, mytchi3 said:

Sooner or later you will have to implement Paid race change, gender change, outlook change. Nothing like frantion change or name change. Just stuff like this would be working

not blizzlike

[Walking 0]

Or gold buying. Maybe not unlimited and not a Hugh amaunt but I think a lot of people would love that. Most people just wanna do Bgs or Raids and don't want to waste time with farming gold.

[metagame 8]

3 hours ago, Zyfire said:

I am very certain it means $350 a month and an additional $300 for the first month, otherwise he would probably simply say $400 per month plus $250 for database replication server ;)

I'm not making any assumptions, the way it is worded in OP's post is extremely confusing and leaves out major details. How much did it cost before and how much of an increase will this upgrade cost per month? Is this metric for one server or for all of them? We really need some more information here to understand exactly how much more contribution from the community is needed. For example if I was donating $10 a month before and the server cost has doubled now I need to donate $20 to maintain the same contribution level. This is really the most important part and it's not clear at all.

[mytchi3 1]

1 hour ago, Lifealert said:

not blizzlike

i know its not blizzlike  but what is blizzliike is 15$ subscription :).

I dont want to deal with this garage sale every month or two.

[Walking 0]

56 minutes ago, Toradh said:

lol

Vanilla is not for you bud.

Lol.

are you still 15 years old and use that much time for a game ? I played vanilla and I enjoyed it  but time changed. Most people have a job, family and other stuff . Whats  the problem ? I'm not talking about buying item's like other servers. 

[Jellydonut 2]

15 hours ago, Zeeya said:

They said that Zeth'Kur is already running on Anathemas hardware.

If Zeth is running on Anathema, then what is Anathema on?  In any event, the question still remains. This post explicitly references three realms going forward, so what is the status on Zeth transfers? I personally would not put up any money with that matter still in limbo, and assume others who play there wouldn't either. 

[Whitewolf 1]

Buying gold would ruin the server economy, turn this project into a for profit, and push people away because you don't actually have to play the game to get what you want. If you want to buy gold just play the auction house game.

[Pur3Lun471c 0]

merge dad'kur maybe then i donate 5 dorrah

[mytchi3 1]

7 hours ago, Walking said:

Lol.

are you still 15 years old and use that much time for a game ? I played vanilla and I enjoyed it  but time changed. Most people have a job, family and other stuff . Whats  the problem ? I'm not talking about buying item's like other servers. 

No you are talking just about buying gold. Like others said vanilla is not for you. And if you cant spend 4-5 hours per week farming gold try some fun servers if your goal is only pvp and bgs. There are servers like this with hundreds of peple playing on them. Even thousands. Instant lvl 60 with gear and you just go pve and pvp.

[Apophis 1]

I'd be happy to donate something but I would welcome more transparency in that regard.

After the donation is completed, Elysium should provide a complete list with all donations and how it is being used. That way the community can check for itself if all donations are listed and sum up properly. This would give the Elysium project more credibility and deniability in case of further accusations.

[mytchi3 1]

36 minutes ago, Apophis said:

I'd be happy to donate something but I would welcome more transparency in that regard.

After the donation is completed, Elysium should provide a complete list with all donations and how it is being used. That way the community can check for itself if all donations are listed and sum up properly. This would give the Elysium project more credibility and deniability in case of further accusations.

That doesnt work like that. It has to be instant online feed to a tracking, similar when you donate for startup seconds after transaction you can see your sum  added to the fund. Otherwise it can be easily cheater.

Sorry guys running this server I have no idea where you are from or why should you have our unlimited and unquestionable trust. I happily donate money for server but I want to see it went for the server and not some like you stated last time that rest of the money went to some propagation of the server, graphics and whatnot. That is bullshit it smells of corruption and profit and this time make it transparent.

[Duality 4]

Not entierly related, but would you please proceed with the Zeth'kur merge, or at least give us an update?
If I understand this correctly, Zeth'kur and Anathema share the same hardware, which creates an issue when Anathema disconnects and you have to take down both the servers in order to restart proppely? It's probbaly way more complicated than this, but I'm not entierly wrong? From what I read on discord this was the issue yesterday, where the server went offline for 2 hours during EU raid time. I don't believe it's fair to the population on Anathema, or Zeth'kur for that matter, to be affected by downtime as a result of this. 

[Patiekrice 0]

On 14.5.2017 at 0:58 AM, Beetroot said:

Race change for 20eur? Everyone walks out happy. 

^

[oldrumors 0]

Just made my contribution.

Still I also believe that if some paid services like:

-race change;

-class change;

-others things change;

- and most importantly, paid transfers between servers;

would be enough to cover all server costs.

I'm eager to leave Zeth'kur to Darrowshire with my wife, she's struggling with PVP (first time ever playing), and we would gladly pay for character transfer. At the moment she's willing to quit playing instead of leveling her mage again.

Either way, hope my contribution helps, added to other's, but really think this could be a solution.

 

Best regards

[Apophis 1]

39 minutes ago, oldrumors said:

I'm eager to leave Zeth'kur to Darrowshire with my wife, she's struggling with PVP (first time ever playing), and we would gladly pay for character transfer. At the moment she's willing to quit playing instead of leveling her mage again.

No need to pay, they already announced there will be a free transfer from Zeth'kur at some point in the near future.

[oldrumors 0]

2 hours ago, Apophis said:

No need to pay, they already announced there will be a free transfer from Zeth'kur at some point in the near future.

Still, I would pay right now for it.

5 Chars in 2 accounts, make it 10 bucks a char, mail me the bill.

"The near future" feels further and further away.

[Phin 0]

It worries me to see no answers as to why there isn't any transparency in the donations. I'd be happy to donate if I knew my money was going.

[Myllz 8]

4 minutes ago, Phin said:

It worries me to see no answers as to why there isn't any transparency in the donations. I'd be happy to donate if I knew my money was going.

This.  I'd donate right now if I knew exactly where my funds were going, other than to some random PayPal account.  As much as I like this project, there have been way too many issues with private server donations in the past for me to just send money without transparency. 

[squaw 5]

4 hours ago, Phin said:

It worries me to see no answers as to why there isn't any transparency in the donations. I'd be happy to donate if I knew my money was going.

+1

[Verber 0]

Сервер крутится - лавеха мутится.

[indi 10]

6 hours ago, Phin said:

It worries me to see no answers as to why there isn't any transparency in the donations. I'd be happy to donate if I knew my money was going.

My biggest issue as well, combine that with using the old Valk paypal that was used by Shenna to sell characters/gear just makes me extremely apprehensive about the whole thing.

There is no transparency as to where our money is going, even after Shenna and Co left and the new staff was in place. There is absolutely zero reason not to setup a new form of payment and make a clean break from the old admins.