More punishment for low-level murder

[chuecopro 0]

 

Hi, I sincerely came to make a post after enduring for a long time to kill me and all those who were around on hillsbrad foothills... 60 level characters, 

I must confess that I love pvp and that's why I play Elysium, And being level 25 does not bother me to kill someone level 26,27,28 up to 35 ... but that all the time you are chased 1 or 2 characters lvl 60 stop being fun the game, there are times that spent the whole afternoon without being able to do a quest for these people that takes you out 40 levels and does not stop killing you . I think the "dishonorable kill" is not working, and they are not interested either ... you have to find another punishment for killing low levels, do not tell me that it is a pvp server, I love pvp ... I live for The pvp .. but when being level 25 you are killed levels 60 ceases to be "pvp". I hope this is not a "post more" I come to write on behalf of many people who are complaining at this time for general chat and is an everyday problem. I hope someone takes this post and something is done.
P.D: Sorry for my english im from Argentina , i play this server with 300 MS and I just keep playing for the PVP but lvl 25 vs lvl 60 is not PVP.

[Shomiehawn 1]

Dishonorable kills apply to certain NPC targets; not lower level players. This has always been this way in Vanilla, so there is nothing for GMs to fix. Unfortunately, while I agree with you, there is nothing against the TOU with higher level players killing or camping you. It is despicable behavior to camp some so low for so long but in those instances its better to either hop on another character or find a new leveling zone.  Best of luck to you.

[CorporalK 0]

What the guy above said.  Seems a lot of people get bored at 60 and want revenge for being killed at low levels.  Break the chain of violence and don't follow suit, that's the best you can hope for (super extreme high hopes). 

[chuecopro 0]

 

Thanks for the answers I hope the GMs can do something about it, since many people stop playing for this ... there are people who work and study and have only 1 or 2 hours to play and if at that time you have a level 60 killing you all the time surely you are going to look for another game ... I repeat: I do not mind that I kill someone 5 or 10 levels higher than me, but 40 levels higher is no longer fun, I wish you could implement a removal of exp Or that lowers you of rank. Obviously if the low lvl hits you you would have all the right to kill him without penalty.

[Staticflow 1]

Under rules and regulations it states "Intentionally killing or disabling important quest NPCs for an extended period of time" as a grievance, this should also apply to low level killing

[Alkme123 2]

Its exactly the same for Alliance in redridge or darkshire, its tit for tat, we get ganked while levelling and seek revenge, its about survival :D

[chuecopro 0]

1 minute ago, Alkme123 said:

Its exactly the same for Alliance in redridge or darkshire, its tit for tat, we get ganked while levelling and seek revenge, its about survival :D

 

Of course Alkme123, this is not about factions, the problem is for everyone, and as I said above, when you kill 1, 2, 3, 4 up to 10 times a level 60 stops being pvp, survival, fun.

[ismeckye 7]

But I think its fun, killing lowlevels. Seeing if your new trinket or overall gear makes it possible to fry a lvl 25 with the last jump of Chain Lightning is actually quite intriguing. Just level somewhere else when the ganking gets too bad. There are always obscure out of the way mobs you can grind on that nobody needs and that are just there to let the world look alive.

[Staticflow 1]

yes people having lives and only able to play for 1 or 2 hours a day and actually wanting to get something out of it makes them a noob, get out of your mothers basement and go be a productive member of society twat

[Alkme123 2]

3 minutes ago, Staticflow said:

yes people having lives and only able to play for 1 or 2 hours a day and actually wanting to get something out of it makes them a noob, get out of your mothers basement and go be a productive member of society twat

Haha get on the normal sever mate, the pvp one obviously isnt for your playing style!

[ascension197 1]

Nothing will be done. Best you can hope for is a friendly 60 to come help which they usually do because they're bored too. Not going to tell you how to spend your time but 1-2 hours on the Elysium server in particular is not going to cut it if you want to hit endgame inside of 6 months. As you've accurately observed, Elysium has a lot of high level gankers and imo is a very cancerous server in general. Anathema or Darrowshire is your best bet if your goal is endgame asap.

[Staticflow 1]

1 hour ago, Alkme123 said:

Haha get on the normal sever mate, the pvp one obviously isnt for your playing style!

more or less speaking in general for those in that predicamate, without this turning into a pissing match; elysium is the highest populated server with the earliest patch to date atm, meaning new people are going to be drawn to it for the simple fact that theres always gonna be groups to be made, getting that wpvp experience people enjoy running into now and then, and dont have to feel like theyre too far behind on content; now without sounding too preachy, something clearly is to be said about your existence in life as a whole if you cant find better things do but log onto WoW and make peoples lives miserable for hours on end by ganking them

[chuecopro 0]

Beyond some people who have similar characteristics to the lvl 60 that are spent killing low level, I will answer some things, first I do not want to go to a PVE server because I do not even make instances ... I love pvp but pvp Really .. call a friend level 60 to help me already I did ... my friend comes to kill him 1 time 2 times ... but he has to play again, and these lvl 60 are all the time Killing you in quest zones of low levels taking advantage of that nobody can do anything to them. I never asked to get the pvp ... I simply asked for the abuse to be sanctioned.

[Undertanker 88]

This is due to limited content on a highly populated server, adding AQ20, ZG, AQ40, Naxx people will be far too busy farming and raiding to run around with nothing to do until next reset.  

Autism rates get higher with lack of content.  We experienced the same thing on Nost and especially during the relaunch.  

If you look way back at some earlier threads, many people that had 60s but planned on rolling on Elysium's fresh server purposely camped as many lowbies for a couple weeks straight with the said goal of deterring them from playing on the existing server.

Now they are 60 on Elysium and yet do the same thing, maybe to feel good at the game?

When they say they are good at basketball (PVP):

 

[Firebrand 3]

Once mindin my busness as a lvl 25 on southshore a tauren druid me camped me for hours.

 

Now I go and take revenge.. and its fun.. I either poly random low levels, counterspell them out of the blue, if there is more than one I just kill 1 and chase the others while holding back so I can rejoice on their silly attempts to live.

 

KILL ALL HORDE.

Tryhards muh racials dindus deserve to die. 

King's honor.

[Pieper 2]

16 hours ago, chuecopro said:

Thanks for the answers I hope the GMs can do something about it, since many people stop playing for this ...

Nah they're just rolling on Darrowshire. It's what I did after days of not being able to play. Lots of new alliance migrating all the time since playing the game corpse run is flat out boring. 

If you didn't get in at the beginning when the playing field was level you're pretty much screwed out of being able to play on Elysium.

[Myllz 8]

17 hours ago, chuecopro said:

there are people who work and study and have only 1 or 2 hours to play and if at that time you have a level 60 killing you all the time surely you are going to look for another game

That applies to high level players that gank, too.  Maybe they only have 1 or 2 hours to play and they spend it killing lowbies.  Just because you're low level and trying to quest doesn't make your time more valuable or important than theirs.  They're not breaking any rules, so there's nothing to be done.

[Pieper 2]

16 hours ago, arucado said:

Go to play to the PVE server noob

Where you can actually play. And when there are no low levels left to gank, you might actually have to learn how to play WoW.

noob

[ismeckye 7]

2 hours ago, Pieper said:

Where you can actually play. And when there are no low levels left to gank, you might actually have to learn how to play WoW.

noob

7000 people online atm, there will always be enough lowies to gank.

[egorlike 0]

As someone who was Horde on Zeth Kur and rerolled Alliance on Elysium before the transfers, I don't get whats all the whining is about.

I already had 2 characters go through Lakeshire and I can't say ganking was that bad. I was killed couple of times by some high levels, sure. But it wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. After you get out of the city and go to the questing areas I barely saw any horde there. And if they are there and being particularly annoying usually a level 60 comes and kills them. 

And anyway how long does it take you to do all the quests there. 1-2 hours max? Is this really worth it to make a whiny thread about this?

Also why do you even have to level there. Theres wetlands, ashenvale. Both 20+ zones. Just go there after Westfall. I don't hear people complaining about those zones.

[Alkme123 2]

9 hours ago, egorlike said:

I already had 2 characters go through Lakeshire and I can't say ganking was that bad. I was killed couple of times by some high levels, sure. But it wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. After you get out of the city and go to the questing areas I barely saw any horde there. And if they are there and being particularly annoying usually a level 60 comes and kills them. 

This.

Its not actually that bad, you get ganked a couple times here n there but you jsut gotta move on,
sometimes u jsut gotta res at the spirit healer and move onto soemwhere else or do something for 10 minutes like hand in some quests or something

[ismeckye 7]

1 hour ago, Alkme123 said:

This.

Its not actually that bad, you get ganked a couple times here n there but you jsut gotta move on,
sometimes u jsut gotta res at the spirit healer and move onto soemwhere else or do something for 10 minutes like hand in some quests or something

It's the entitled retail mindset that people bring over to vanilla. If they cant follow their precious levelig guide because a quest is overfarmed with a low questitem drop like the shard for the Tower of Althalaxx or they cant do a quest because its horde camped, they rather whinge instead of finding new ways to play the game. It seems almost dogmatic the way they have to follow stuff.

[Stayhi 0]

The level 60 ganking is a problem. Is it Blizzlike? sure it is. But not to the extreme that is happening right now. It is NOT blizzlike to have 10k+ players on one PvP server. That high population is the obvious reason why there are so many complaints on ganking. It simply deters people from playing on the server eventually. I loved every minute of this server until I got to Redridge, Duskwood, and eventually crawled into STV. Redridge and STV I expected ganking. I expected Nessignway camp to be practically a horde or alliance town depending who controls it. I expected Lakeshire in Redridge to be completely demolished half the time. This was blizz-like at times. But what is happening on Elysium is not what I experienced on retail AT ALL. The fact you can gank is blizz-like. The fact that you can gank and kill 20-30 lowbies in less than 10 minutes is NOT blizz-like.

[Myllz 8]

32 minutes ago, Stayhi said:

The level 60 ganking is a problem. Is it Blizzlike? sure it is. But not to the extreme that is happening right now. It is NOT blizzlike to have 10k+ players on one PvP server. That high population is the obvious reason why there are so many complaints on ganking. It simply deters people from playing on the server eventually.

If the population is as high as you claim it is (which it isn't), then it doesn't sound like people are being deterred from playing here.  :thinking:

[Guest]

19 hours ago, egorlike said:

As someone who was Horde on Zeth Kur and rerolled Alliance on Elysium before the transfers, I don't get whats all the whining is about.

I already had 2 characters go through Lakeshire and I can't say ganking was that bad. I was killed couple of times by some high levels, sure. But it wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. After you get out of the city and go to the questing areas I barely saw any horde there. And if they are there and being particularly annoying usually a level 60 comes and kills them. 

And anyway how long does it take you to do all the quests there. 1-2 hours max? Is this really worth it to make a whiny thread about this?

Also why do you even have to level there. Theres wetlands, ashenvale. Both 20+ zones. Just go there after Westfall. I don't hear people complaining about those zones.

This. I levelled a Troll Priest during the initial levelling wave and have leveled multiple low levels in several 'gank city' areas with only momentary issues at best. If you're getting ganked so bad that you have time to get camped, go somewhere else or do something else. Done. Continuously going back to do the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome is madness.