Best offhand weapon

[nolamik 0]

Hello

I was wondering if someone can explain what is best offhand weapon for rogue and why.

I'm not looking for specific weapon but a characteristic explanation like its better to use fast weapon, slow weapon, weapon with more dps etc..

Best regards,

Nolamik

[Whitewolf 1]

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=12590

Really speaks for itself, but I'm not an expert.

[nolamik 0]

@Whitewolf did you even read first post?

[Nirinia 0]

slow mh for hard hitting ss with fast oh for poison application

[Whitewolf 1]

7 minutes ago, nolamik said:

@Whitewolf did you even read first post?

I did, the weapon really does speak for itself.

[nolamik 0]

Weapon is not speaking to me. 

[Whitewolf 1]

Chance on hit to make all attacks hit and crit for 3 seconds. Guaranteed 4-6 attacks that do double damage, possibly more if sword spec/windfury proc and/or Blade flurry is active. It is also relatively fast as it is a dagger, but you do lose out on 30% of swings and all that goes with it, but the ability scales extremely well.

[nolamik 0]

@Whitewolf thank you for explaining me :)

[Whitewolf 1]

1 minute ago, nolamik said:

@Whitewolf thank you for explaining me :)

Sorry I forget sometimes it can sometimes be not obvious. The thing that puts the weapon over the edge is that 100% hit.

[Hummi 0]

At this stage of Vanilla special attacks (SS, BS and so on) deliver a lot of your damage. Therefore you want to have an Offhand, that has good stats, rather than pure weapon DPS. For instance Gutgore Ripper is a terrible offhand.

e.g. ZG Sword offhand (few weapons DPS, but 40 AP)

e.g. Bonescraper Dagger offhand (few weapons DPS, but 30AP)

[DPS 6]

best OH prio stats:

1. Sword(if you're combat sword speced)

2. Huge DPS

3. Awesome stats

4. Speed

So, ideally your OH should be fast sword with huge DPS and lots of stats (eg Iblis), but in pre-naxx content there is lack of goodand fast OH swords(only ZG one), but still, CTS or Maladath is better (its 2.6 and 2.2 speed).

[Kazic 0]

On 9/15/2017 at 1:36 AM, Whitewolf said:

Chance on hit to make all attacks hit and crit for 3 seconds. Guaranteed 4-6 attacks that do double damage, possibly more if sword spec/windfury proc and/or Blade flurry is active. It is also relatively fast as it is a dagger, but you do lose out on 30% of swings and all that goes with it, but the ability scales extremely well.

If the attack is a glancing blow it will not crit during felstriker proc, because by definition a glancing blow can not crit. So over the long run, only 60% of your normal attacks during felstriker will crit. It last for 3 seconds, so you're looking at probably 1 backstab during the effect. So really not that great. 

[Hummi 0]

On 16.9.2017 at 11:57 AM, DPS said:

best OH prio stats:

1. Sword(if you're combat sword speced)

2. Huge DPS

3. Awesome stats

4. Speed

So, ideally your OH should be fast sword with huge DPS and lots of stats (eg Iblis), but in pre-naxx content there is lack of goodand fast OH swords(only ZG one), but still, CTS or Maladath is better (its 2.6 and 2.2 speed).

For Humans Maladath is not better, since it has basically no good stats.

For NE, Gnome or Dwarf Mala is good

For Humans Brutality or ZG are better

[DPS 6]

1 час назад, Hummi сказал:

For Humans Maladath is not better, since it has basically no good stats.

For NE, Gnome or Dwarf Mala is good

For Humans Brutality or ZG are better

For humans Maladath isn't so good as for other races for sure, but still thats rock! Cause of weapskill cap for glancing blows is 315, not 310.

[Hummi 0]

18 hours ago, DPS said:

For humans Maladath isn't so good as for other races for sure, but still thats rock! Cause of weapskill cap for glancing blows is 315, not 310.

Same old topic, mate ...

Elysium is running a weapskill formula, where u are nearly glance capped at 310. So getting 315 is better, but not worth it.

310: 90% glance dmg

315: 95% glance dmg

So on this server for humans: don't take maladath, get brutality or wait for ZG

[DPS 6]

12 часа назад, Hummi сказал:

Same old topic, mate ...

Elysium is running a weapskill formula, where u are nearly glance capped at 310. So getting 315 is better, but not worth it.

310: 90% glance dmg

315: 95% glance dmg

So on this server for humans: don't take maladath, get brutality or wait for ZG

To be fair its 95% with 310, and 100% with 315. You also forgot that Maladath is 56.4 dps item, so extra dps on it compensate lack of stats. (while BB is 5dps lower and Warblade is 8dps lower). I'm not talking that Mala rocks, but still Mala not worse than BB/Warblade (at least if you're not using R14 2.9 speed swords for Extra attack).