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Lets Talk About 180g for Epic Mount!

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12 hours ago, DarknessCalls said:

This is not retail, nor should it resemble anything close to retail.

Really bad troll post, or what?

Nope but retail was one example. There are expansions on private servers that sell epic mounts at low amounts and ganking happens on PvP servers there, just like it may happen here. That's part of the WoW PvP server experience, it doesn't bother me as apparently it bothers some others.

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6 hours ago, Booksie said:

Nope but retail was one example. There are expansions on private servers that sell epic mounts at low amounts and ganking happens on PvP servers there, just like it may happen here. That's part of the WoW PvP server experience, it doesn't bother me as apparently it bothers some others.

I don't really understand where you're getting at. I mean ya, ganking happens regardless of epic mounts or no epic mounts, or no mounts at all. But choosing to make the mount change not only wayyy earlier than what Blizzard originally did, but also at the same time as a PvP patch, is obviously going to cause more issues than not.

The only argument I'v seen so far basically boil down to 'Whatever deal with it' which I suppose is one way to look at it. It just seems super arbitrarily to make this change so early when other features like Thorium Point/Raventusk quest hubs won't see life till later, even though they have a much lesser impact on overall experience.

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6 hours ago, Booksie said:

Nope but retail was one example. There are expansions on private servers that sell epic mounts at low amounts and ganking happens on PvP servers there, just like it may happen here. That's part of the WoW PvP server experience, it doesn't bother me as apparently it bothers some others.

Well if everyone on those servers has to pay the same price, even if its a low amount, its still fair, since everyone has the same price to pay, which isnt the case here. If the prices werent switched with 1.4 there would still be the same gankage as it is now.

It hast nothing to do with ganking, its simply unfair to give the epic mount to some players for 280g while the rest has to pay 1000g, how anyone can argue against this, or not understand my(and a lot of others) point, is beyond me.

still hoping for some kind of answer from an official, even if its just "we wanted to make our most active players happy". nothing that can be done about it now anyway.

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Really horrible decision. Now us still leveling can't even escape the 60's chasing us for free honor. Absurd.

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Can someone explain how the hell do you get epic mount with 180g?

I went and bought my nightsaber for 900g before 1.4.

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18 hours ago, drecksbug said:

Well if everyone on those servers has to pay the same price, even if its a low amount, its still fair, since everyone has the same price to pay, which isnt the case here. If the prices werent switched with 1.4 there would still be the same gankage as it is now.

It hast nothing to do with ganking, its simply unfair to give the epic mount to some players for 280g while the rest has to pay 1000g, how anyone can argue against this, or not understand my(and a lot of others) point, is beyond me.

still hoping for some kind of answer from an official, even if its just "we wanted to make our most active players happy". nothing that can be done about it now anyway.

They can get Epic mounts simply by voting at the other servers yet alone for gold. Some servers even offer free mounts, but they usually aren't Epic (usually) and Retail, mentioned yet again, also offers mounts to buy in their online shop, so Elysium isn't as easy as that in comparison to gaining Epic mounts. I'm not going to say any more other than this mount issue has been blown out of proportion deliberately, perhaps under orders to agitators or for other reasons known only to whom it may concern.

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Can someone explain how the hell do you get epic mount with 180g?

I went and bought my nightsaber for 900g before 1.4.

Pre 1.4, you'd have to spend 90 gold to train epic riding and then an additional 900 gold to purchase the epic mount. However, after 1.4, the costs were switched where you'd have to spend 900 gold to train epic riding and then an additional 90 gold to purchase the epic mount. The players who realized that this was going to happen waited until after patch 1.4 to purchase their epic mount for an 800 gold discount.

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8 hours ago, orwell said:

Can someone explain how the hell do you get epic mount with 180g?

I went and bought my nightsaber for 900g before 1.4.

Before patch - Cost of training is 90g, cost of mount is 900g.

After patch - Cost of training is 900g, cost of mount if 90g

Developers here decided to push this change for patch 1.4, which would be ok with me but they also decided to inform guilds ahead of time.

So, most level 60s purchased training for 90g before patch hit, then purchased mount after patch hits for 90g. They saved more than 800g.

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4 hours ago, Booksie said:

They can get Epic mounts simply by voting at the other servers yet alone for gold. Some servers even offer free mounts, but they usually aren't Epic (usually) and Retail, mentioned yet again, also offers mounts to buy in their online shop, so Elysium isn't as easy as that in comparison to gaining Epic mounts. I'm not going to say any more other than this mount issue has been blown out of proportion deliberately, perhaps under orders to agitators or for other reasons known only to whom it may concern.

I don't think it's been blown out of proportion at all. In fact, I'm really surprised that this thread is only 2 page long, with most of it being the same people replying. Virtually no one uses these forums, and most players casually leveling probably don't even know that this change hit in 1.4 instead of later on, so they're completely in the dark. I'm certain that if more players knew that a percentage of the playerbase saved 800g on their mount, there would be an outrage, but most don't even know. They will hit level 60, and farm their 1k gold, never knowing that some of their brethren only paid a fraction for their mount. 

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6 hours ago, Booksie said:

They can get Epic mounts simply by voting at the other servers yet alone for gold. Some servers even offer free mounts, but they usually aren't Epic (usually) and Retail, mentioned yet again, also offers mounts to buy in their online shop, so Elysium isn't as easy as that in comparison to gaining Epic mounts.

I dont know what other servers even have to do with this early switch issue. So you are saying its still hard on Elysium to get the epic mount and i agree(and thats how it should be), but that still doesnt change that it was a lot cheaper for some players who knew about this early switch.

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I'm not going to say any more other than this mount issue has been blown out of proportion deliberately, perhaps under orders to agitators or for other reasons known only to whom it may concern.

1 Thread with 2 pages is "blown out of proportion" for you? Some of you act like i am spamming the forums 24/7 even though i just made one thread which no one "agitated" me to do(and which the forums are for, or not!?), i just made it because its unfair. Im just a casual player like the majority of ppl on the server.

 

also, dont get me wrong, i love playing on this server so far and one bad decision is not going to drive me away, but i am still allowed to ask questions about changes i dont understand, arent i?

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ok, now its 3 pages

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I'm glad you made this thread. In spite of the troll defending the decision everyone I have spoken to in game that didn't benefit from this decision has adamantly opposed it. It's not only that they received an epic mount for little to no effort, but that it has single handily ruined leveling 50-60. Both factions have groups of 60 patrolling all the 50-60 zones with epic mounts. Literally every one of them has an epic mount. Prior to this patch I could at least mount up and run from these groups and there was a good chance they wouldn't pursue. Now it is virtually impossible to avoid being ganked, and because of that, virtually impossible to level with any sort of regularity.

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1 hour ago, Poe said:

I'm glad you made this thread. In spite of the troll defending the decision everyone I have spoken to in game that didn't benefit from this decision has adamantly opposed it. It's not only that they received an epic mount for little to no effort, but that it has single handily ruined leveling 50-60. Both factions have groups of 60 patrolling all the 50-60 zones with epic mounts. Literally every one of them has an epic mount. Prior to this patch I could at least mount up and run from these groups and there was a good chance they wouldn't pursue. Now it is virtually impossible to avoid being ganked, and because of that, virtually impossible to level with any sort of regularity.

This is mostly what I stopped playing here.

World PvP is fine and I knew there would be a huge increase with the newest patch, but this epic mount "oversight" really sucks, I was level 56 when this all went down, was confused as to why suddenly everyone had a 100% mount chasing me down, then learned very quickly why. Even if I someday hit level 60, I would have to grind to 1000g, unlike everyone else. Just too discouraging to keep playing here as a result. I'm sure all the level 60s love it though.

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6 hours ago, Jupes85 said:

I don't think it's been blown out of proportion at all. In fact, I'm really surprised that this thread is only 2 page long, with most of it being the same people replying. Virtually no one uses these forums, and most players casually leveling probably don't even know that this change hit in 1.4 instead of later on, so they're completely in the dark. I'm certain that if more players knew that a percentage of the playerbase saved 800g on their mount, there would be an outrage, but most don't even know. They will hit level 60, and farm their 1k gold, never knowing that some of their brethren only paid a fraction for their mount. 

I've talked as the title of the thread requested and given my two cents worth, I'm not bothered about cheap Epic mounts but each to their own. I'm enjoying Nighthaven and that's all I care about personally. Others I know in-game aren't bothered either. I'll check back on this thread later on to see what's mentioned but this will be my last post in it. Back to Nighthaven with me.

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12 hours ago, Booksie said:

I've talked as the title of the thread requested and given my two cents worth, I'm not bothered about cheap Epic mounts but each to their own.

i'll correct that sentence for you.

"Ive talked as the title of the thread requested and given my two cents worth, I'm not bothered about a small % of players getting cheap Epic mounts, but each to their own."

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xp for quests get changed to be more blizzlike, warlocks running around with bought epic mounts. so blizzlike!

guess its save to say the devs dont give a shit. New player? F*ck you!

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Very irresponsible act on Elysium's behalf.

Utterly stupid to let everyone have their epic mount for 180g...

 

I bought mine for 900 and now idiots with 180g chase me with same speed mounts.

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Is leveling to 60 and get 900g in 2 months seems normal ? What are your doing, playing wow 20h/24h, 7 days a week ?

It looks like that some players have no life and are making fun of those who actually have a life and didnt have time to get their epic mount in time for 180g.

And the only thing that explain how players got their mount for 900g before the patch is gold sellers.

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On 11/1/2018 at 1:08 AM, D1E53L said:

Not everyone is prepared to wait for the scrubs to hit 60 for the QOL adds :D - some players at 60 want to do world pvp for the months they cant BG . Understand that as casual players you casually get fucked sometimes.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing in this game more casual than free epic mount.

Staff stole the experience of farming to get your epic mount to those fast 60's and the feat of buying it for its true price.

Then, those 60's ruin the experience of 48+ players since they don't have nothing to do than gank lowbies for honor. Don't get me wrong, gank will exist always, but when literally all 60s have nothing to do than get honor and there are no BG's, questing is impossible, and this shit happens for both faction sides.

And when BG's come and new 60s won't have epic to chase flags will be more fun for them too. Good luck to not be replaced in any premade without it.

Btw I will get over it and buy it for its true price, you know, blizzlike price.

And congratulations to the fortunates.

Edited by Naur

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no planning a playing again, bad management

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