evaniwastaken 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Glenzig said: Pottu: " There will not be any transfers. Zeth'Kur now has 5.6k population while Elysium has 10k population. It is slowly equalising between them." https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/32331-need-free-transfers-to-newly-announced-server/ Your opinion is wrong. so you're saying the devs will never ever change their mind about a topic? ok 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glenzig 34 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, evaniwastaken said: so you're saying the devs will never ever change their mind about a topic? ok There has yet to be one character transfered from one server to another. All the way back to the very beginning of Nost. They have given the same answer every time they are pressed for one. What makes you think they will change their minds now? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evaniwastaken 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Glenzig said: There has yet to be one character transfered from one server to another. All the way back to the very beginning of Nost. They have given the same answer every time they are pressed for one. What makes you think they will change their minds now? ok i can see you're a bit of a wanker not gonna bother talking with you it was an opinion not a fact, bye Edited January 14, 2017 by evaniwastaken 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rouce 3 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Glenzig said: Your opinion is wrong. Wat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrozenFire 5 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Glenzig may not have the most eloquent responses (love you whoever you are) but he's not wrong. Even though Pottu, who is a Senior GM, has said countless times that transfers will not happen. A lot of you still are waiting on this idea of "server transfers" because "maybe they will change their mind" or "we don't care what he says it NEEDS to happen". They won't, that's not how this works. If you want to be part of the problem, then by all means, continue to complain that transfers need to happen. Continue to complain about ques, that you are inevitably causing by your inability to realize the bigger picture. If you want to stay on Elysium because you have a lot of progress there, or have made friends who don't want to switch, then stay. No one is forcing you to leave. But nobody has made so much progress that it can't be easily redone on the new server. Elysium PvP hasn't even been up a full week as of this post. If you really want to play on Zeth'Kur, but can't redo less than a week of leveling, and are demanding/holding out for transfers, Vanilla is NOT for you. Vanilla is a huge grind, and you have to ask yourself if you would rather endure that grind without the worry of ques getting in your way. Or exacerbate that grind with overpopulation and long que times. Either way, don't complain about the problem if you aren't willing to be part of the solution. And most importantly, try to enjoy the game. P.S. Rouce you think you are helping your friends by having all these bags and your professions ready for them. But if they aren't playing because of ques and they want a less competitive leveling environment, then you are just contributing to their lack of enjoyment playing the game by peer pressuring them into playing with you on Elysium. Make the switch and enjoy the game with your friends, as it's intended. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayaleith 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Why all this fasism in here? State your opinion, answer to the OP but do you need to tell him what to ask and not to do it in the future? Or even worse swearing like little bitches? If she cannot understand your explanations (which were fine) and persists on this, just stop answering. The post will go to page 2 etc. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darthaden 1 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Re roll or don't. if you don't I'll enjoy my pain free leveling experience when I get home from work while you wait in a multi hour que and have to camp escort quest npcs for a hour hoping to beat the other 20+ campers 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rouce 3 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Started with a harmless opinion, immediately escalated in stigmatizing non-sense. What is this place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Modsat 1 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, Rouce said: Started with a harmless opinion, immediately escalated in stigmatizing non-sense. What is this place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Agreed. Don't understand the hostility here. I also don't understand why no one listens/reads. The OP clearly isn't about "I don't want to reroll, please make easy mode for me". It's a valid question and a possible solution to the queue problem. It's not about doing it for the ones moving, but about doing it for the ones staying. Why does no body get that? All that said, I myself do not believe transfers are the best solution, and think that time will solve this issue a lot better. That however is no reason to to bash the OP for at perfectly valid opinion and question. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimma 10 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 It's a valid question And you got a valid answer. So stop asking. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rouce 3 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mimma said: And you got a valid answer. So stop asking. He didn't even ask for it.. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyctasha 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) FrozenFire +1 very true Why would there be transfers when Elysium is up for only a few days. What so significant has any of you reached or acquired that you need to transfer your lowbie characters for? I didn't even get to play for 5 minutes in almost a week due to unending queues. So excuse me, but if you had such excessive amount of free time at your disposal to get through queues and level to 20+ (I didn't), you sure as hell have more than enough time to reroll. Or continue crying and being part of the problem, by expecting others to move and free up space in a queue for you. They won't, just like you won't. I do love me some vanilla, but this community sometimes feel like it never grew up and is stuck in some entitled limbo where reason is the last thing you would use. They owe nothing to any of you. They decided to open a new server due to excessive flood of players that would evenly populate both of then had they split. but they underestimated this mob mentality. It's like rabid animal that would rather get shot than let go of it's prey, while foaming at the mouth. Now this post is not aimed directly at op, but towards all this outcry due to queues and everyone that is part of it. Stop moaning and contribute to evening out the population so neither server has queues, or silently wait in your 3 hours long queue and spare us the details of your unimaginable suffering that is SOLELY self-inflicted. Edited January 14, 2017 by Nyctasha 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TTL 6 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 I agree there should be transfers, while many can re-roll and lose out on a little progress, you'll notice hardly no guilds are moving because asking 30-40+ people to start over after most of them are 20-30+ is unreasonable. While they can stay indeed it doesn't really give them much of a choice in the matter unless you want to lose 1/2 your guild. We should be grateful we got a 2nd server up at least even if the Elysium team won't be kind enough to allow some guilds to choose to move to the fresh server. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SikSan 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) It's ok to allow transfers for under 20 lvl characters. No harm for Zeth'Kur and will rly help with the Ely queue that's still exist. Lvl 1-20 lvling is pretty boring so not many peeps are willing to do that in another 9999 time again Edited January 14, 2017 by SikSan 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldoR9 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 WHY DO YOU WANT TRANSFERS???? JUST DELETE YOUR 7 WEEK OLD CHARACTER FROM ELYSIUM AND CREATE A NEW CHARACTER ON THE NEW FRESH SERVER WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???!!! 5K ON NEW SERVER ANS STILL +4K QUEUE ON ELYSIUM?? SOME PEOPLE HAVE ROCKS IN THEIR HEADS INSTEAD OF BRAINS !!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khalismur 6 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 3 hours ago, TTL said: I agree there should be transfers, while many can re-roll and lose out on a little progress, you'll notice hardly no guilds are moving because asking 30-40+ people to start over after most of them are 20-30+ is unreasonable. While they can stay indeed it doesn't really give them much of a choice in the matter unless you want to lose 1/2 your guild. We should be grateful we got a 2nd server up at least even if the Elysium team won't be kind enough to allow some guilds to choose to move to the fresh server. As always, fresh and new guilds and communities will form there. No need to 'whole guilds' to 'move'. Zeth'Kur is for people with jobs, families and lifes, it seems. I tried to play in Elysium but didn't manage to connect not even ONCE. Always 3k+ queue, which I don't have the mindset nor the time to wait for. I expect a much more mature and easy going community over in Zeth. Elysium is not for me. Also a bonus that the population is not so gruesome huge. 4~5k is more stable and balanced. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rckstr 6 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 Tbh i don't see a reason why they shouldn't allow transfers for guilds/players in a certain timeframe. I think there are many people who would actually like to play on Zeth'Kur but can't because of guilds/friends. I think it's also not in the interest of the more competitive guilds when some of their players disconnect later and have to make their way through a 3hour queue again. Transfers make sense, maybe not now but it should be something to consider in order to balance out populations and increase server performance. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glericka 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 I was level 16 and still rerolled in a heart beat. I want to play this game, not sit in queues. I am level 10 now and I feel when I am level 16, my /played time will prob be half since I'm not fighting 2k people for the same mob. See no need for transfers. You have been on your char for a week. If you are that attached to it to reroll, then have fun in your queue. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oriomnu 1 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 2 hours ago, RonaldoR9 said: WHY DO YOU WANT TRANSFERS???? JUST DELETE YOUR 7 WEEK OLD CHARACTER FROM ELYSIUM AND CREATE A NEW CHARACTER ON THE NEW FRESH SERVER WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???!!! 5K ON NEW SERVER ANS STILL +4K QUEUE ON ELYSIUM?? SOME PEOPLE HAVE ROCKS IN THEIR HEADS INSTEAD OF BRAINS !!!!!!! Do you want to know what's wrong with these people? They're people with no life who play 18/24, they have no idea about how hard is to manage a server.They have enough time to create at least 10 fresh characters and reach lvl 60 with all of them on fresh server but they're too lazy. There you go. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonaldoR9 2 Report post Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Oriomnu said: Do you want to know what's wrong with these people? They're people with no life who play 18/24, they have no idea about how hard is to manage a server.They have enough time to create at least 10 fresh characters and reach lvl 60 with all of them on fresh server but they're too lazy. There you go. i abandoned my 8 month lvl 60 and moved to the new fresh server. why can these lazy people delete their 7 week old characters and move? they have asked for another fresh server. THERE YOU GO! MOVE TO IT!!!!!!!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites