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[фткyн 1469]

Okey we have essence of fire dropped, and mage roll need, arguing that he need it for 30sp on weep, and so? All party members tell him: hey!  stop needing on this! 

[Beerwizzard 13]

21 минуту назад, фткyн сказал:

Okey we have essence of fire dropped, and mage roll need, arguing that he need it for 30sp on weep, and so? All party members tell him: hey!  stop needing on this! 

If it had a better ah price then why not? Thats what ppl usualy do with diamonds, books and orbs.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Beerwizzard

[Newts 6]

Oaken you are a retard...
It is impossible to discuss with you, you have an opinion 99% of people think you are incorrect, your OPINION is that monetary gain is the same as a need to wear something, 99% of people don't think / believe this. It doesn't matter how many times you express your opinion, the majority of people know you are in the wrong

It makes very little difference to my life, I won't have times where I will be kicked or pushed out - you possibly will.

No one here can prove which way is right or wrong, but if 99% of people agree one way is correct and 1% agree the other is correct, it is in the belief that the majority are in the right.

I didn't contradict myself, you just need to learn to read, I said all need is equal yes, but you didn't read it in context or the fact I was leading to something further than those 5 words, well done, you quoted a small piece from a whole paragraph. If you cared to comprehend what I had wrote, I believe that NEED is when people require an item as an upgrade not to flog it on AH, so all need is equal in my opinion for those circumstances.

But it's fine, you get angry and defensive and throw out a few swear words because you are just a moron with a shit opinion on how something works which everyone else disagrees with...

I'm done talking on this, it's clear you are in a minority and will continue to ask for proof you are wrong, but you can't prove you're right!

At the end of the day you are more than welcome to need BoE's but don't expect anyone to be happy about it and do expect your name to continue to end up in here over and over.

[Oakenlix 79]

6 minutes ago, Newts said:

Oaken you are a retard...
It is impossible to discuss with you, you have an opinion 99% of people think you are incorrect, your OPINION is that monetary gain is the same as a need to wear something

Here we go again with the "monetary gain" bullshit. It would've been funny if it wasn't so sad that you can't understand how ridiculous this argument is.

And I'm not getting angry, I'm just done trying to explain my point far earlier in this thread, so if you still don't understand something so simple - now I'm just making funny posts to mock your stupidity. 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Oakenlix

[Bluntski 13]

If am not gaining gold or spending gold, and gold is monetary, there is no gain or loss. You aren't losing money or gaining money either.

Money you have in your savings account (IE gold in your bags) is not monetary gain. The interest you get from the bank from using said account is monetary gain. Selling something then adding it to your savings is monetary gain.

You are literally rolling need on monetary gain (aka greed).

Edited January 30, 2017 by Bluntski

[Oakenlix 79]

2 minutes ago, Bluntski said:

If am not gaining gold or spending gold, and gold is monetary, there is no gain or loss. You aren't losing money or gaining money either.

Money you have in your savings account (IE gold in your bags) is not monetary gain. The interest you get from the bank from using said account is monetary gain. Selling something then adding it to your savings is monetary gain.

It's ok, everything is alright, don't forget to take your meds.

[Beerwizzard 13]

Только что, Bluntski сказал:

 You aren't losing money or gaining money either.

 

 

 /facepalm

I gove up trying to explane smth to you. After such words my professor would probably crack ur skull with ET book :(

Not raging, just sayin' that you didnt get anything from this thread.

[Bluntski 13]

29 minutes ago, Beerwizzard said:

 

 /facepalm

I gove up trying to explane smth to you. After such words my professor would probably crack ur skull with ET book :(

Not raging, just sayin' that you didnt get anything from this thread.

Too bad it's true. Greedy people will be greedy I guess.

[Coop 3]

4 hours ago, Oakenlix said:

This doesn't bother me as long as I'm right. No one has yet proven any of my argument to be wrong, unfortunately. All I get is just people saying "this is how it should be" or "this is how it was" with nothing to back it up, like this:

Other than the fact that Blizzard changed this themselves in later expansions to stop this exact type of thing happening. Or are you going to tell us the people who made the game are wrong as well? 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Coop

[Oakenlix 79]

13 minutes ago, Coop said:

Other than the fact that Blizzard changed this themselves in later expansions to stop this exact type of thing happening. Or are you going to tell us the people who made the game are wrong as well? 

What are you talking about, what did they change exactly?

[Beerwizzard 13]

10 минут назад, Coop сказал:

Other than the fact that Blizzard changed this themselves in later expansions to stop this exact type of thing happening. Or are you going to tell us the people who made the game are wrong as well? 

Wrong statement. They've changed the system when there were no pre raid boe bis anymore.

[Coop 3]

13 minutes ago, Oakenlix said:

What are you talking about, what did they change exactly?

They changed the loot system so you could only roll need on items that you could use. 

[Coop 3]

19 minutes ago, Beerwizzard said:

Wrong statement. They've changed the system when there were no pre raid boe bis anymore.

1. I'm 99% sure that's not true. 

2. So its only okay to roll need if its pre-raid BiS? What about epic BoE's that could make you a lot of gold but weren't technically bis? 

[Oakenlix 79]

4 minutes ago, Coop said:

They changed the loot system so you could only roll need on items that you could use. 

Alright, but how is this relevant to the topic? If you can't roll need on BoE, you don't.

In our version of the game, however, you can and you should. This adds nothing to the discussion.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Oakenlix

[Beerwizzard 13]

Только что, Coop сказал:

They changed the loot system so you could only roll need on items that you could use. 

Can you link some pre raid bis items with world drop from past  WoTLK times?

[Coop 3]

5 minutes ago, Oakenlix said:

Alright, but how is this relevant to the topic? If you can't roll need on BoE, you don't.

In our version of the game, however, you can and you should. This adds nothing to the discussion.

Of course it does, Blizzard recognised this was an issue and changed the system accordingly to stop it from happening. 

[Beerwizzard 13]

Только что, Coop сказал:

Of course it does, Blizzard recognised this was an issue and changed the system accordingly to stop it from happening. 

You are talking about different issues.

[YoungFreddy 4]

42 minutes ago, Oakenlix said:

What are you talking about, what did they change exactly?

Listen up idiot,on retail if you need on boe it turns bop.

Need is for using the item not for pice of shit gold.

[The Fapmonsoon 14]

Thanks Youngfreddy - I don't play retail really (bought Legion but played for like 2-3 days and quit again) so I had no idea they fixed this in such a way. Further proof it was not how it was intended.

[Coop 3]

18 minutes ago, Beerwizzard said:

Can you link some pre raid bis items with world drop from past  WoTLK times?

After a quick search of a Paladin pre-raid bis thread from Cata: 

http://www.wowhead.com/item=76160/drapes-of-the-dragonshrine#dropped-by

http://www.wowhead.com/item=67131/ritssyns-ruminous-drape#comments

http://www.wowhead.com/item=76154/breastplate-of-despair#comments

http://www.wowhead.com/item=76156/bindings-of-the-end-times#dropped-by

http://www.wowhead.com/item=67141/corefire-legplates#dropped-by

That's not even all the BoE items I found from a quick browse of one thread for one class... 

Edited January 30, 2017 by Coop

[Garun 9]

This is why I rarely tank for pugs. I'm not going to risk those shoulders I need going to some greedy little brat like Beerwizard. However, he is not a ninja but just following the rules unless it was specified beforehand that BoE gear was need before greed (which based on the screenshots it was not).

[Coop 3]

7 minutes ago, Beerwizzard said:

You are talking about different issues.

How is it different in any way?

You would not be able to do what you did from I think WotLK onwards. They specifically introduced this system to stop people like you pulling this kind of shit. 

[Oakenlix 79]

So you're saying because Blizzard implemented those changes people shouldn't roll "Need" on BoEs in vanilla?

First of all, that's not the case. And secondly, if Blizzard are such an authority to you, how come you play on a private 1.12 server? Blizzard don't want you to do that, please play retail. 

[Bluntski 13]

The lengths these people are going to to defend their greed is astounding.

[Garun 9]

Just now, Oakenlix said:

So you're saying because Blizzard implemented those changes people shouldn't roll "Need" on BoEs in vanilla?

First of all, that's not the case. And secondly, if Blizzard are such an authority to you, how come you play on a private 1.12 server? Blizzard don't want you to do that, please play retail. 

Apparently it's too hard for tanks to set loot rules beforehand. If Beer rolled need when it was made a loot roll of need before greed on BoE epics, he's a ninja, but since that wasn't the case, he is not a ninja at all. I main a tank in vanilla and if that happened to me and I didn't specify need before greed, it would be on me and not him.