Server merges

[TgBadboys 0]

   I've been watching the 2 new servers since there releases and i'm positive the development team is to. IMO it's time to look at merging the 2 together. I'm sure this has been talked about with the development team. There clearly low enough at ALL hours to never wait on login anymore. Also this would help on fundings and could use the extra cash to help grow in other ways. It was a great idea to have 2 servers up but the rush is over and reality of only needing one server is setting in pretty hard. Were already seeing our long hours leveling on Zeth'Ker NOT paying off in the end game do to 1400-1800 players at any given time and TBH id say 30% or more are bots. If we combined now in the very near future we will at least save the good players from leaving do to  small numbers on the server to have a good raiding environment.. I'm just a concerned player nothing more. I convinced a good local group to play vanilla again on these servers and some are truelly wandering if it all was for nothing at this point. At the rate ive seen it drop we will drop under 1k population average within this next month. Doing the merger now and not waiting will totally save this. Like I said i'm just here to have fun but I have nearly 25 years as an adult playing blizzard games and I see the writing on the wall. Thanks for listening. TgBadboys

[KuRioS 0]

Even though I wanted this to be a last resort, it now seems inevitable. Zeth'Kur and Darrowshire is currently on a steady playerbase of 2000 people while Elysium and Anathema varies from 5-8k depending on the day. 

Considering Elysium struggled with money recently after the scandal with donations I believe the right course of action here is to merge the servers.

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[Xadaver_pve 0]

I doubt they would merge pve and pvp servers, too big a headache, no?

[TgBadboys 0]

Homu it is done all the time buddy. We have already seen this great group of Developers do it themselves.

 

 

[TgBadboys 0]

The sad thing is every single team has waited to long to do it. They wait till the msg board are full of ranters so pissed off the leave with a bad taste in there mouths and never wanna come back to the server. Now is the time b4 this happens. They will keep ALL there loyal players and everyone is happy. Heck charge $2.00 or something to cover the extra labor cost. I know you don't want to make money so don't only charge what it would take to hire someone to merge database and be done with it. Blizzard lost A LOT of customers when servers were dying and they waited to long to do anything. MAY Vanilla servers have had this same issue and waited also. Just my 2 cents of thought but in another month there will be complaints rolling in :(

[Nelythia 44]

Yea show us a screenshot of the server stats while its in completly dead hours.

 

EU Peak darrowshire reaches sometimes up to 4k.

Don't know about ZK but I heard 3k+ as well.

[Clawfeather 0]

The good players are leaving, one by one .... i rather pay every month for something palpable, than loosing one day everything .

[TgBadboys 0]

ZK might get 3400 on a good weekend but weekdays 2400 down to 1200

 

[Firebrand 3]

57 minutes ago, TgBadboys said:

ZK might get 3400 on a good weekend but weekdays 2400 down to 1200

 

exactly blizzlike.

[Calylith 0]

Hello!

This is a thread i also brought up earlier. And as we can see the population on ALL servers been decreased by large numbers this week. 

4 hours ago, TgBadboys said:

ZK might get 3400 on a good weekend but weekdays 2400 down to 1200

 

ZK had this a couple weeks ago but this weekend we managed to peak 2700 as most, lets see how the Sunday looks like.

I totally agree with the post above here, more and more good and loyal players leaving because they think the staff wont merge the servers = it will be dead sooner or later and that means its too late to merge.

As I see it they have another option also then merge.

It's to give Elysium players a option to transfer their char to ZK to even out the numbers, but I also vote for a merge where we have 1 big server with a lot o bgs, instances and different raids running. Also probably less work for  Elysium to handle 1 server instead of 2.

It's time or at least go out officialy and ask what the community thinks.

 

/Concerned player

[TgBadboys 0]

Totally agree with you Calylith, at least ask others what they think before it gets to the point of no return. At least give us a heads up. Are we on a server that is just gonna be put down or are we gonna have a chance to move? We all know what's happening. Just don't want to keep going when I could start back on Alysium now before we spend more time for nothing. Just concerned. Badboys

Edited February 26, 2017 by TgBadboys

[Shiamorah 20]

Let the staff do what they think is best! 

[Larkfeast 0]

On 25/02/2017 at 4:56 PM, TgBadboys said:

   I've been watching the 2 new servers since there releases and i'm positive the development team is to. IMO it's time to look at merging the 2 together. I'm sure this has been talked about with the development team. There clearly low enough at ALL hours to never wait on login anymore. Also this would help on fundings and could use the extra cash to help grow in other ways. It was a great idea to have 2 servers up but the rush is over and reality of only needing one server is setting in pretty hard. Were already seeing our long hours leveling on Zeth'Ker NOT paying off in the end game do to 1400-1800 players at any given time and TBH id say 30% or more are bots. If we combined now in the very near future we will at least save the good players from leaving do to  small numbers on the server to have a good raiding environment.. I'm just a concerned player nothing more. I convinced a good local group to play vanilla again on these servers and some are truelly wandering if it all was for nothing at this point. At the rate ive seen it drop we will drop under 1k population average within this next month. Doing the merger now and not waiting will totally save this. Like I said i'm just here to have fun but I have nearly 25 years as an adult playing blizzard games and I see the writing on the wall. Thanks for listening. TgBadboys

Another retail casual...

WELCOME TO VANILLA.

Zeth'Kur has Blizzlike pop. No merge required.

Edited February 26, 2017 by Larkfeast

[Aladya 0]

My concern about Zeth is the fluctuation of the population. I like the 2.5k pop & all but 40 days already passed since release & pop is still decreasing every week. Not talking about "the hype is gone" but people are leaving every single week. On this rythm, two weeks later zeth will have 2k pop on weekends & 800 on weekdays which will make it far from blizzlike. The merge will eventually happen anyways.

[Owondyah 8]

since when 2k is low population?

 

I think you are too spoiled.

[twistedwedge 0]

It's about the trend of the declining server, not that 2k is low pop. If this trend continues by the next 2 weeks, there should be a server merge.  I think everyone is fine with 2k, but it's under 2k already. I would say give it another week, if we are averaging 1500 players we should merge it. And no the staff doesn't always know what's best. It's what the players and the community want to be successful. 

[TgBadboys 0]

Yea apparently the guys against the merger and my statement clearly did not read it. Twistedwedge read it right. It's not about what it is NOW it's about doing something now b4 it's to late.

[quasexort 4]

I think they mentioned in the QA session that they'd really only consider merging if the population dropped to around 500 peak times.  The way I see is every server has something unique to draw in players.  

Anathema is the most progressed server and also has many of the same guilds from Nost.

Elysium is a fresh server with high population (which some people enjoy and others don't).

Zeth'Kur is a fresh server with a more blizz-like population.

Darrowshire is the only PVE server.

If you merge Zeth'Kur then you limit the choices that the player base has.  Not everyone wants to play on Elysium which peaks at 10k population.  I'm sure a lot of people who decided to play on Zeth'Kur did so because they prefer to play on a server that doesn't feel over crowded.

Same can be said if you merge Darrowshire with a PVP realm.  Most people on Darrowshire chose to play there because they prefer to play on a PVE realm.

If you merge these realms then you limit the options that players have.

Now I understand that you are arguing that Zeth'Kur and Darrowshire are dying.  As I'm typing this post Zeth'Kur has 3156 players online, Darrowshire has 3780, Elysium has 9461, and Anathema has 6094.  None of these servers are even close to dying. 

I'd say if you are unhappy with the Zeth'Kur population then you should cut your losses and reroll.  Don't expect the staff to just merge the servers for YOU when there are a lot of players who prefer to play on Zeth'Kur than Elysium because like I said not everyone enjoys playing on a 10k population server.

[Playtime 0]

I have started to level on Elysium because its not possible to raid on ZK. We where a Australian guild and the only one on horde side and we couldnt get more than 15-20 online at a time. So i had to leave my preraid bis mage with epic mount to be able to raid and join battlegrounds (queues where around 45mins) ZK might be fine and Blizz like if your playing EU or NA primetime but off hours are bad.

[apz 0]

So depends on if you roll Alliance or horde if pvp queues will be better on Elysium. Heard queue times are pretty long here too for horde. And ranking isnt very easy on Alliance either if thats what you are intrested in, Heard some rank 10ish doing 1.6m honor or something after half the week.

On Alliance side there seems to be a fair amount of Aus/oceanic guilds tho, dont Think that will be a problem. Too bad they start raids 3h too late for us nightworking europeans to raid with them.

Good luck with the leveling on Elysium tho. Leveling an alt myself now

[boxjellyfish 0]

You can tell the people who started playing WoW in WoD when you get threads like this.

Servers on retail Vanilla had 1000-2000, you wanted to play a blizzlike server well you got it.  Join a guild, make some friends

 

You seem like the kind of person who cries for a merge and then after the merge you cry there's to many people and you can't quest cause of lack of mobs.  You're the % ruining retail.

[Cryogenicworks 0]

Today during the early morning (US East Coast), or European prime time, Elysium alone peaked at 9000 players. Zeth'kur reaches 4k very easily during prime time as well, while Anathema is almost always near 3-5k. I'd say this is a good sign, given servers with bigger population tend to make the whole game more worthwhile because of increased player interaction. Although a merge seems a little risky, since it could also de-stabilize Elysium if for some reason, it doesn't handle the large numbers during prime time.

[TgBadboys 0]

I've been on ALL day on ZK from 10am CST to now. 2800's is the highest I've seen and I checked at least once an hour. This is also the best 2 days. I'm also guessing the ones not for a merger are not playing on this server or monitoring it like we have been. I can only assume there not reading the post b4 commenting. (Not all there has been a few good points brought up why not to merge) What we are saying there has been a great deal of players leaving the server the past few weeks. We have seen this with true Blizz servers back in the day and they had a few things you could do. One was pay for a server transfer, another was for free they would move you from a high pop server to a lower pop server on there list.  We don't have those options really cause there is only 2 new pvp servers out there. If we keep waiting they will eventually just shut the server down unless they do something. The population wont get larger on itself it will only get smaller. i'm putting 3-4 months and there gonna HAVE to shut it down meaning nobody wins at all. I'm trying to bring it up now b4 it's to late. Anyways you Alysium team has done what I consider a great job so far. Hats off to them. I'm just trying to give a heads up with the extensive experience I have had in the Blizzard gaming industry. Thanks for the work guys. INBadboys

P.S. its peak time in the US on arguably the bussiest day of the week and were at 1900 players and I'm still saying that's 30% botters.

Edited February 27, 2017 by TgBadboys

[Calylith 0]

This is the problem people dont get. First of all you exaggerate a lot in this thread, the peak time yesterday on ZK were 2800 (which certainly is good) but as now during this new week it will be around 1000-2000 online. You have to remember this is not 2000 active players, it's a lot of botters and also a lot of farmers. It's really hard for people to find instance groups and BG queues are bad. 

I'm not suggesting that there should be a merge in the first place but I do suggest to open up for people to move their character from Elysium to Zeth'Kur to even out the numbers a little. As someone mentioned in the thread above is that some people like to play on a busy server and some people on a more blizzlike server. This means the people that lvled on Elysium from the start maybe should get a chance to come to a less populated server that eventually will die, it's not hard to see if you followed the numbers last week and if it keep going same direction it will come to that.

I would gladly see Elysium on 6000k peak times (still very high) and have Zeth'Kur at 3-4k peak times and this suggestion would help out with that.

Then the question of the possibility for Elysium staff to even do this but I guess it shouldn't be a problem because they could do the trasnfer earlier between Nost & Anathema.

Do something before it's too late! Waiting until 500 on a server makes absolutely no sense.

 

 

[smokeit 26]

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/39681-elyzk-limited-transfer-discussion/

What I think of it.

Edited February 27, 2017 by smokeit