HOW MANY GUILDS DOES IT TAKE TO STOP IRON EDGE!

[Parla 1]

50 minutes ago, homu said:

oh god you won against full pve geared 2-4 rank players

you truly shown some skill

We could have done it in greens. You guys have no coordination.
PVE / PVE Gear difference is so small atm anyways.

Edited March 5, 2017 by Parla

[Aklol 16]

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[Sharodo 0]

9 minutes ago, Aklol said:

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[Parla 1]

46 minutes ago, homu said:

if you were really any good at this game you would play on retail

I did play retail until this server came out. At a high level. But lets not focus on that.

Edited March 5, 2017 by Parla

[TTL 6]

11 hours ago, Spanishboss said:

you mess with the mafia bro, you re just a cockroak for us. You got wiped and then GY camped when you released at spirit ress. DW , videos are coming now to highlight how useless is IRON EDGE HAHAAHAHA 

Outnumbers them 3:1, talks shit.

Wheres the meme for this!

[Fladrif 14]

What I don't like is the fact that players of different factions cooperate and communicate  ---> this is SHIT.

This is not how the game is supposed to be played.

This is the same as gold-selling, but the staff won't do anything (nor even address this thing as a problem) because most of the community simply don't care.

Solution: community sensitization

[Wazte 2]

[Parla 1]

43 minutes ago, Fladrif said:

What I don't like is the fact that players of different factions cooperate and communicate  ---> this is SHIT.

People never talked with opposite faction on forums and mIRC?
Oh wait..

[Fladrif 14]

Let's say that a group of horde players could be paid with real money by an alliance player to let him farm some leather.

GMs will do nothing mainly because they can't even prove the transaction... and they'll do nothing because they agreed that horde-alliance cooperation is fine.

This is worse than goldselling.

[Slicy 11]

It's popcorn happy hour bois

 

Edited March 6, 2017 by Slicy

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

Business and mercenary contracts are regularly made, even in times of war between all opposing factions. This game's 'war' is no different.

Get mad.

[Fladrif 14]

15 minutes ago, Xylon666Darkstar said:

Business and mercenary contracts are regularly made, even in times of war between all opposing factions. This game's 'war' is no different.

Get mad.

 

I can't deny that from a sociological point of view, I find this "contract" extremely fascinating, but...

Elysium does not condone the trade of virtual goods or services appearing or originating from the Game, or any other attributes associated with an account or any component thereof for real money, or exchange those items, currencies or services for value outside of the Game.

And this alliance-horde cooperation is a safe and viable method to avoid the risks of gold-selling.

:-)

 

Edited March 6, 2017 by Fladrif

[thurmanmerman 0]

14 minutes ago, snawfu said:

Lot of shit talk about numbers from a guild that is known to bring a horde of mongoloids to "dominate" pvp.

 

cya, get fucked etc

 

[Gilnash 0]

3 hours ago, Fladrif said:

What I don't like is the fact that players of different factions cooperate and communicate  ---> this is SHIT.

This is not how the game is supposed to be played.

This is the same as gold-selling, but the staff won't do anything (nor even address this thing as a problem) because most of the community simply don't care.

Solution: community sensitization

bring ur own group and fight us ur welcome trying

[Fladrif 14]

4 hours ago, Gilnash said:

bring ur own group and fight us ur welcome trying

 

It's not about a faction controlling a resource, but a cross-faction alliance to exploit that resource.

A cross-faction alliance generates a peculiar monopoly that could very easily lead to a situation in which the monopoly asks real money to players for farming resources. And those transactions cannot be tracked like the ordinary gold-sellers.

Imagine that a player offers real money to the so-called "mafia" to let him farm leathers for 2 hrs. This would be against the rules: in fact Elysium does not condone the trade of virtual (...) services (...) originating from the Game (...) for real money outside of the Game.

GMs can spot goldsellers, but they can do nothing to prevent a player from paying dollars to the mafia... how could you know that a player paid2win ? He will effectively buy gold without being banned. Is this the game that you would like to play?

P.S. I don't have ingame characters above level 40.

 

Edited March 6, 2017 by Fladrif

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

9 hours ago, Xylon666Darkstar said:

Business and mercenary contracts are regularly made, even in times of war between all opposing factions. This game's 'war' is no different.

Get mad.

Bears repeating. Also, idk where you're getting the mental breakdown in belief that there is real money involved. There is a verbal contract of crossfaction business being conducted on a singular resource, fought and secured for either of their factions supply/demand from outside inferiors like those outcrying for a ban or GM intervention cus MUHGOLDS TINFOILHAT REDDIT syndrome.

Again, don't like it? Fight for it. Nothings being broken here TOU, and nothings been shown to prove otherwise. 

Just a lot of forum tears from the autistic.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

2 hours ago, Fladrif said:

 

It's not about a faction controlling a resource, but a cross-faction alliance to exploit that resource.

A cross-faction alliance generates a peculiar monopoly that could very easily lead to a situation in which the monopoly asks real money to players for farming resources. And those transactions cannot be tracked like the ordinary gold-sellers.

Imagine that a player offers real money to the so-called "mafia" to let him farm leathers for 2 hrs. This would be against the rules: in fact Elysium does not condone the trade of virtual (...) services (...) originating from the Game (...) for real money outside of the Game.

GMs can spot goldsellers, but they can do nothing to prevent a player from paying dollars to the mafia... how could you know that a player paid2win ? He will effectively buy gold without being banned. Is this the game that you would like to play?

P.S. I don't have ingame characters above level 40.

 

Nice tinfoil hat conspiracy. You can always join a PvE server. It's cheaper there. And carebear safe! 

:^)

Edited March 6, 2017 by Xylon666Darkstar

[Fladrif 14]

3 hours ago, Xylon666Darkstar said:

Bears repeating. Also, idk where you're getting the mental breakdown in belief that there is real money involved. There is a verbal contract of crossfaction business being conducted on a singular resource, fought and secured for either of their factions supply/demand from outside inferiors like those outcrying for a ban or GM intervention cus MUHGOLDS TINFOILHAT REDDIT syndrome.

[...]

 

How could we know that there's no money involved? And how could we know that tomorrow a chinese enterprise will not adopt this system to sell gold?

I've shown that the mechanics of the cross-faction contract make really easy to setup a business with real money involved: in fact, Blizzard created a game in which it was impossible to communicate with the other faction. This was done for a reason.

The fact that the game limits can be annihilated by using a simple external chat doesn't mean that cross-faction contracts should be accepted as "the old good mechanics": they're not. 

This is not "like real war" kid: it's just a game.

 

3 hours ago, Xylon666Darkstar said:

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Again, don't like it? Fight for it.

[...]

 

Are you asking to anyone who wants to farm this resource to setup contracts with the other faction?

Essentially, you're sayin' that the average player is bound to use an external software to bypass a specifically made game-limitation in order to play the above-mentioned game.

Why not just allow cross-faction chat in game?

 

 

 

[penn 0]

lol some guilds helping each others for devilsaur competition.. it was going on nostalrius, probably the same on most private servers.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

Been going on in vanilla retail too 12 years ago. Why break what works? Communicate, make friends, have a team, reap economic benefits on a resource monopoly! :^)

Just this time we have skype/discord/vent vs mIRC/teamspeak/yahoo/msn/AOL messengers. :^)

:^)

[wickedwizard 2]

personally think the turf wars are awesome + its the only "land" they will ever "own" 

[Fladrif 14]

Of course, all of those who have a personal interest in making the community consider it as "legit", "awesome" and "fun" will do so.

Their arguments are essentially built on the fact that this "mafia" requires a dedicated effort to be eradicated and so it was tolerated most of the time.

Unlike gold-selling, nobody gives a shit about this problem. As you can see, I'm the only one here trying to point at this... and I'm not even interested in farming leathers there!  If none cares, the problem doesn't exist.

I would like to see this behaviour to be  -at least- officially condemned because it can lead to exploits (people could sell in-game goods for real money by monopolizing their farming).

"We cannot monitor or police how people communicate outside the game ... so we decide that it's legit to cooperate with the opposite faction -and thus to bypass a central game's mechanic"

Why can't you just give us cross-faction chat since it's allowed? In my opinion, it will be super-fun and lead to amazing wPVP.