The Devilsaur monopoly.

[Hurricane2 2]

10 minutes ago, Myllz said:

It wasn't allowed on the same account, but it was allowed if you had two accounts.  Plenty of people did it, there was no rule against having multiple accounts for this very reason.

The second one you keep repeating without any substance.  Explain how they're circumventing the communication.  Forums and cross-faction communication have existed since the game launched in 2004.

 The game was built to prevent cross faction communication.  Why do you say that is without substance?

Also why do you think it was made so 1 account could have only 1 faction?

[Fladrif 14]

2 hours ago, metagame said:

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Are you for some reason unable to do the same thing?

Essentially, you're sayin' that the average player is bound to use an external software to bypass a specifically made game-limitation in order to play the above-mentioned game.

The mechanics by which I can't attack same faction players should not be exploited to setup a monopolio: if by any chance they earn real money from it, they'll have more resources than anyone else in protecting their business (because they're paid for it).

if there's a monopoly on an item and they keep the price at 25g, they can sell 100g for $17 by trading 4 items. None will catch them.

 

Edited March 8, 2017 by Fladrif

[Myllz 8]

4 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

 The game was built to prevent cross faction communication.  Why do you say that is without substance?

Also why do you think it was made so 1 account could have only 1 faction?

They. Are. Not. Communicating. In. Game.  Why is that not sinking in for you?  They're not circumventing any of the rules in the game.

[Hurricane2 2]

4 minutes ago, Myllz said:

They. Are. Not. Communicating. In. Game.  Why is that not sinking in for you?  They're not circumventing any of the rules in the game.

Why do you think it is that they are not communicating in game?

Edited March 8, 2017 by Hurricane2

[metagame 8]

25 minutes ago, Hurricane2 said:

2.  In retail and here you cannot communicate with the opposing faction.  Just because you can easily circumvent something that was not intended doesn't mean it's allowed.

In retail Blizzard set up a realm forum where I regularly chatted with members of the opposing faction.

[Myllz 8]

Just now, Hurricane2 said:

Why do you think they are not communicating in game?

Prove that they are.  Helping another player does not mean they're communicating.

[Fladrif 14]

Just now, Myllz said:

They. Are. Not. Communicating. In. Game.  Why is that not sinking in for you?  They're not circumventing any of the rules in the game.

 

There are circumstances in which it's evident without doubts that they're circumventing the game's mechanics: for example, when they whisper you "GTFO or you'll be ganked and corpse-camped"

If they setup a monopoly on an item and they keep the price at 25g, they can sell 100g for $17 by trading 4 items. None will notice it. Faster and safer than using bots.

[Myllz 8]

Just now, Fladrif said:

 

There are circumstances in which it's evident without doubts that they're circumventing the game's mechanics: for example, when they whisper you "GTFO or you'll be ganked and corpse-camped"

If they setup a monopoly on an item and they keep the price at 25g, they can sell 100g for $17 by trading 4 items. None will notice it. Faster and safer than using bots.

Post your screens.

[Zil 0]

1 minute ago, metagame said:

In retail Blizzard set up a realm forum where I regularly chatted with members of the opposing faction.

Not to mention almost every server had a mIRC channel. I used to collude with friends on the opposite faction in Gurubashi Arena for the chest. As well as baiting people to get MC'd into the lava in BRM. No one was ever banned or warned despite being reported multiple times. This was on Kel'Thuzad(US).

[Hurricane2 2]

I ask these questions because if you answered them then you would easily understand the rules.

[Hurricane2 2]

9 minutes ago, metagame said:

In retail Blizzard set up a realm forum where I regularly chatted with members of the opposing faction.

Did you use those forums to coordinate griefing and economy control with the other faction?

[Haestingas 30]

Can we just ban these crybabies from the forums please? THis issue has been beaten to death, either git gud and fight them for the devilsaurs or be quiet.

[Myllz 8]

1 minute ago, Hurricane2 said:

Did you use those forums to coordinate griefing and economy control with the other faction?

Co-ops between the factions were discussed all the time on the forums.  The STV chest was a big one as mentioned above, especially in the twink community.  Horde and Alliance constantly had cooperation between each other for the chest and would kill anyone else trying to get it, regardless of faction.

[Hurricane2 2]

5 minutes ago, Haestingas said:

Can we just ban these crybabies from the forums please? THis issue has been beaten to death, either git gud and fight them for the devilsaurs or be quiet.

Not crying.  Just pointing out it's obviously against the rules.  It's awesome that the players can do something about it but it would be nice if the GMs helped out.

[Emptora 17]

Lots of tears in this thread....

 

LOTS OF TEARSSSSSS

[Hurricane2 2]

10 minutes ago, Myllz said:

Co-ops between the factions were discussed all the time on the forums.  The STV chest was a big one as mentioned above, especially in the twink community.  Horde and Alliance constantly had cooperation between each other for the chest and would kill anyone else trying to get it, regardless of faction.

Isn't that the one spot in the game where that are no factions?  Not a good example.

[Myllz 8]

Just now, Hurricane2 said:

Isn't that the one spot in the game where that are no factions?  Not a good example.

So you're allowed to communicate as long as it's a free for all area?  But communicating is against the rules!

[Hurricane2 2]

10 minutes ago, Myllz said:

So you're allowed to communicate as long as it's a free for all area?  

No.

[Fladrif 14]

21 minutes ago, Myllz said:

Co-ops between the factions were discussed all the time on the forums.  The STV chest was a big one as mentioned above, especially in the twink community.  Horde and Alliance constantly had cooperation between each other for the chest and would kill anyone else trying to get it, regardless of faction.

Co-ops is one thing. Monopoly by co-ops is another.

The mechanics by which I can't attack same faction players should not be exploited to setup a monopolio: if by any chance they earn real money from it, they'll have more resources than anyone else in protecting their business (because they're paid for it).

if there's a monopoly on an item and they keep the price at 25g, they can sell 100g for $17 by trading 4 items. None will catch them.

Edited March 8, 2017 by Fladrif

[Myllz 8]

Just now, Hurricane2 said:

No.

Then I guess the example is fine.

[Hurricane2 2]

5 minutes ago, Myllz said:

Then I guess the example is fine.

It is not comparable due to there being no factions in that area.

[Myllz 8]

Just now, Hurricane2 said:

It is not comparable due to there being no factions in that area.

Your main problem is that the factions are communicating with each other.  They used to communicate for who would get the chest in STV, and Blizzard never did anything about it.  How's it not comparable?

[Hurricane2 2]

It's not allowed in any instance.  I was just saying your example of communication doesn't compare to what is happening in un'goro and was pointless to bring up.

[Myllz 8]

If it's not allowed in any instance, why did Blizzard not do anything about it on the old forums?

[Hurricane2 2]

Time and money I assume.  I was never an employee at Blizzard so I don't know why they would choose not to enforce the rules.

You are implying that due to not enforcing rules that its ok to break them.  That is an incorrect assumption.