Elysium -> Zeth'kur Transfers

[TgBadboys 0]

Haven't logged in a week. looked tonight we are now UNDER 900 players online tonight. Looks like they just really don't care. Not one reply from the server team on my post that has nearly 2000 views. So that's 600 LESS players from 2 weeks ago at this time. Told you guys this was fixing to happen and they didn't even reply. I tried and failed. Sorry server.

 

[Jellydonut 2]

As of this posting, Elysium has 5k online and Zeth less than 800.  Let that sink in for a moment. 5000 COMPARED TO 800.  Clearly Zeth needs some additional population, and clearly it wouldn't hurt Elysium one bit to lose some. 

Conversely, doing a merger would be a HORRIBLE idea. If you add the max pops from both realms (~6500 Elysium and ~2500 Zeth) you'd end up with a 9k+ megaserver. Honestly, who the hell wants that?

Admins, please do the right thing and let those people who WANT to get off Elysium because they think it's too crowded come to Zeth so that both servers can remain viable. If you don't, then you're only going to lose more players in the long-run. 

Edited March 15, 2017 by Jellydonut

[Adeline 2]

46 minutes ago, Jellydonut said:

As of this posting, Elysium has 5k online and Zeth less than 800.  Let that sink in for a moment. 5000 COMPARED TO 800.  Clearly Zeth needs some additional population, and clearly it wouldn't hurt Elysium one bit to lose some. 

Conversely, doing a merger would be a HORRIBLE idea. If you add the max pops from both realms (~6500 Elysium and ~2500 Zeth) you'd end up with a 9k+ megaserver. Honestly, who the hell wants that?

Admins, please do the right thing and let those people who WANT to get off Elysium because they think it's too crowded come to Zeth so that both servers can remain viable. If you don't, then you're only going to lose more players in the long-run. 

It would hurt Elysium since the playerbase there wants a big population. Losing 15 % of it is definitely a noticable blow.

I'd wager alot more people would like to play on a big server with 9,5k people than a medium sized realm with 4k. Nostalrius had 12k+ during peek hours and aside from the periodic lag it was it's largest selling point. It's very clear that you're speaking from a ZK perspective if you think most players wouldn't want a big server.

Merge completely or let them keep enjoying their low pop.

[Jellydonut 2]

Transfers = OPTION. Merger = NO OPTION. Maybe everybody on Elysium loves their big realm. If that's the case, then nobody transfers. Again, no harm done, and a merge later is still possible.

But if you merge first, then everyone is forced to deal with the result, whether they like it or not. Are you so daft as to not see the simple logic here?  It's like being told you have 2 choices, A and B. If you choose A, then you can still do B later. But if you do B, then A is gone forever. 

Edited March 15, 2017 by Jellydonut

[smokeit 26]

Oh and speedup the timeline 2 months :D

[Nidzex 4]

yeah, ppl should be able to transfer from Elysium to Zeth'kur. Bump! :D

[killerduki 54]

Elysium project should merge Server Zeth'kur to Server Anathema , since it mostly affected this server , it have huge drop in population and together with Zeth'kur it will be again at a rate of 8k Population like Elysium currently (was/is) .

Example why was given here : https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/41290-elysium-zethkur-transfers/?do=findComment&comment=363046

Long ago on my suggestion Topic i offered them to not open this server because it will make problems with Old server and sadly now it is too late.

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/41290-elysium-zethkur-transfers/?do=findComment&comment=363035

If the merge happen then this obviously should either go to Anathema or people should be given a choice where they would like to transfer into (lower populated servers, not Elysium which is already high populated) Kul'tiras or Anathema.

Something like Blizzard used to do back in the days, so it will actually be Blizzlike.

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited March 15, 2017 by killerduki

[Hurricane2 2]

9 hours ago, Jellydonut said:

Conversely, doing a merger would be a HORRIBLE idea. If you add the max pops from both realms (~6500 Elysium and ~2500 Zeth) you'd end up with a 9k+ megaserver. Honestly, who the hell wants that?

Admins, please do the right thing and let those people who WANT to get off Elysium because they think it's too crowded come to Zeth so that both servers can remain viable. If you don't, then you're only going to lose more players in the long-run. 

Most people on Elysium want a high pop and most people on Zeth'Kur want a low pop so asking who the hell wants a high pop server is dumb.

The people that wanted to get off Elysium already did.  You want the servers to equalize which would remove the choice of picking a high pop server vs low pop.  

Most people want a higher pop server as evidenced by the poll in a similar thread and the server populations themselves.  Zeth'Kur isn't viable (in your opinion) not because admins refuse to do the right thing and allow transfers but because players simply are exercising their choice to play on Elysium over Zeth'Kur. 

[Jellydonut 2]

I never said I wanted the servers to "equalize" (i.e., be equivalent). I suggested LIMITED transfers to help "balance out" the populations. Sorry if it didn't come across clearly but basically what I meant was BECOME LESS UNEQUAL. 

Numbers are relative. 1 out of 1 is everything, but 1 out of 1,000,000 is almost nothing. Let's say 1,000 players transfer. That would move Elysium from 5k to 4k on the bottom end and from 6.5k to 5.5k on the top end. Meanwhile, Zeth would go from sub 1k to 2k in the bottom and 2.2 or 2.5k to 3.5k on the top. 

Now, would going from 5-6.5k to 4-5.5k really have a substantial impact on Elysium? Of course not, and anyone who says otherwise is just being protectionist or doesn't have a clue. On the flip side, going from 1-2.5k to 2-3.5k would have a huge impact on Zeth. You're basically talking about doubling the population. 

And has been repeated ad nauseum, if everybody on Elysium likes it there, then nobody will transfer. NO HARM DONE. THEN MERGE IF NECESSARY.

If everything is so lovely on Elysium, then why care if transfers are opened up? What have you got to lose?

Edited March 16, 2017 by Jellydonut

[indi 10]

Transfers won't save Zeth'Kur, we are already locked in a death spiral and Elysium doesn't have the extremely excessive population it once had either with around 7.5k being your average peak.

The servers need a merge, the pvp/ranking community is already collapsing, guilds are cannibalizing each other, there is a new low every day, etc.

People want to transfer to where the community is and that is on Elysium, not Zeth'Kur.

[Playtime 0]

Not going to happen, Zk is fine. Right now it has 1400 players online, thats a pretty blizzlike medium pop server. 

[Shiamorah 20]

On 3/17/2017 at 11:06 PM, indi said:

Transfers won't save Zeth'Kur, we are already locked in a death spiral and Elysium doesn't have the extremely excessive population it once had either with around 7.5k being your average peak.

The servers need a merge, the pvp/ranking community is already collapsing, guilds are cannibalizing each other, there is a new low every day, etc.

People want to transfer to where the community is and that is on Elysium, not Zeth'Kur.

Tfw reading Indi talking about his plans in Ironforge public chat that he plans to hoard a ton of items so if seever merge happens he will make tons of gold from it. 

[Doru 0]

On 3/17/2017 at 11:06 PM, indi said:

Transfers won't save Zeth'Kur, we are already locked in a death spiral and Elysium doesn't have the extremely excessive population it once had either with around 7.5k being your average peak.

The servers need a merge, the pvp/ranking community is already collapsing, guilds are cannibalizing each other, there is a new low every day, etc.

People want to transfer to where the community is and that is on Elysium, not Zeth'Kur.

sad truth

Edited March 21, 2017 by Doru

[riplip 2]

Haven't seen the pop on Elysium go above 5k today, and Zeth'Kur has bottomed out to 600.. why are people leaving. fuck alexensual, and all the doomsayers in world chat scaring people away.

[SadManIsSad 0]

On 3/15/2017 at 0:11 AM, Jellydonut said:

Conversely, doing a merger would be a HORRIBLE idea. If you add the max pops from both realms (~6500 Elysium and ~2500 Zeth) you'd end up with a 9k+ megaserver. Honestly, who the hell wants that?

 

I do because it wouldn't stay 9k forever, hell, it probably wouldn't even stay 9k for a complete month. Anyway, I have decided to quit. The guild I was in was going strong just one month ago, now it is down to me and a few others. Just this morning we said our goodbyes. I'll be moving on to revival projects for other classic games.

Edited March 22, 2017 by SadManIsSad

[gambinho 11]

no one on elysium wants to transfer to kek´kur. sorry boys but you decided to roll on meme server now deal with it

[Banezilla 2]

Let ZK players transfer to any server they choose. Win-Win for the people who like low pop servers.

[Jellydonut 2]

On 3/22/2017 at 2:31 PM, Banezilla said:

Let ZK players transfer to any server they choose. Win-Win for the people who like low pop servers.

Better this than force us all onto Elysium, imho. 

[Jellydonut 2]

On 3/20/2017 at 11:46 AM, Playtime said:

Not going to happen, Zk is fine. Right now it has 1400 players online, thats a pretty blizzlike medium pop server. 

Your forum avatar is strangely appropriate - only a monkey would say something this stupid. During the month of March, Zeth's average population has dropped by HALF (from 2k to 1k) and it CONTINUES TO DROP.

Also, piss-off with your "blizzlike" bullshit. This isn't Blizzard, these aren't retail servers. Having a server with 6k pop isn't "blizzlike", so should Elysium be split into 2 servers?

[Guest]

4 минуты назад, Jellydonut сказал:

Also, piss-off with your "blizzlike" bullshit.

How about "no"? How about you piss-off better?

[Jellydonut 2]

12 minutes ago, Jorn Skyseer said:

How about "no"? How about you piss-off better?

Wow, nice retort man. 

"Piss-off because your argument is flawed for reason X."

Retort: "No you piss-off!"

Some prime debate skills right there. 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Jellydonut

[Guest]

10 минут назад, Jellydonut сказал:

I thought not. 

I'm afraid you never did, friend. :p

Your argument is flawed for that funny reason that you came to blizzliker's already not so blizzlike realms and you suggest to make them even less blizzlike.

Edited March 23, 2017 by Jorn Skyseer

[Jellydonut 2]

2 minutes ago, Jorn Skyseer said:

I'm afraid you never did, friend. :p

Lel.  You're the one who just said "piss-off" with no basis. 

[Jellydonut 2]

15 minutes ago, Jorn Skyseer said:

Your argument is flawed for that funny reason that you came to blizzliker's already not so blizzlike realms and you suggest to make them even less blizzlike.

What?  I said don't make assertions like Zeth'kur is fine because it's "blizzlike" because that's not even relevant. By that same logic, Elysium should be split in 2 because a 6k server isn't "blizzlike" either.

Stop posting. You're just making yourself look more dumb. 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Jellydonut

[Guest]

/moo

9 минут назад, Jellydonut сказал:

Elysium should be split in 2 because a 6k server isn't "blizzlike" either.

Totally agree with that.