Community Poll in consideration of the Ahn'Qiraj Opening Event Redux

[Roxy 8]

I don't play on Anathema, but Darrowshire is the next server to get AQ, so i'll voice my opinion on the matter.

Stick the the original plan, 6 players can get it if it's done before 3 weeks, since people gave up on doing this because of the limitation.

 

What you were afraid of is what happened on Kronos, where they delayed this event for ages so that as many people as possible could get this mount

That would be fixed by just setting the limit to 3 weeks or only the first guy could get it.

 

What you should do with Darrowshire, is that you keep the 3 week limit, and the BoP fragments, and that you can only start it after the war effort is completed,  but you let everyone that bothered to farm it get it.

Due to BoP fragments, the person that are getting it will have to be present on the farming to get it, and it needs to be done within the 3 week limit. that means that the mount will still be very rare and there is a lot of work to be done to get it. 

 

As for the opening event, sure it is cool, but should just open the gates as they are able to, keep that blizzlike, everyone that care about this even will make sure they are online to see it since it goes on for 10 hours (maybe you could just increase the time the event goes on instead)

[Haestingas 30]

First of all I'm just a raider in Reign, not even an officer. As to my compatriots in discord, the reason they were against any change is all the changes being proposed gave us a ZERO CHANCE to get a mount after putting in 6h+ a day each. Of course we would be firmly against any change like that, we would be fucking crazy to not complain about that.

[Hisana 0]

There is no reason to change this.

It's a big fuck you to anyone that gave up along the way because they wouldn't make it to the 6 first.

It's a big fuck you to anyone that scheduled their raids. People have taken your words for true words and scheduled accordingly. Some have called in sick, canceled doctor's appointments and what not. This is not retail. It's 40 fucking man raids. You don't change something like this so suddenly.

[kwazzy 2]

The problem is it took us under 5 days to complete the whole questline,  now many guilds just wait for BWL reset, and essentially it will give china another head start to do BWL before us and have the primetime to pvp. 

[Randysavage 0]

11 minutes ago, hehexdxdxd said:

Assuming you're the guild leader of Reign, im complaining because of idiots like you who cry about being against any change 2 days before the event and then suddenly 30 mins later, WOW i like this change because it benefits us!!

Not our gm either but I think that's a pretty unfair portrayal of how things went. Of course we were against a change in the timing that would totally eliminate us from having any chance. The proposed solution wouldn't screw over anyone that is currently in the race so my reaction at least is to say it seems like a fair idea. Will we strongly advocate for the change? I doubt it, we aren't effected either way. We'll be ready go no matter what. The initial uproar was based on the idea that the race was staying intact but that the start time of the final leg was being moved to the middle of the NA workday with no warning ahead of time to change our plans accordingly, that's the long and short of it. Again, they can choose to keep it the same or change it, idgaf. 

[jellyjambo 0]

55 minutes ago, Zodish said:

Server maintenance also happen in the middle of a normal EU work day, I bet most of us would like to see the opening event as well ^^

not just that but it is around 5am Est in the US when they will finish 

[jellyjambo 0]

The 10 hour window for everyone to turn in sounds like a better idea.  That way it does not ruin those guilds who spent 40+ hours farming to just get beat by a top raid guild who cleared faster

 

[prutt 0]

7 minutes ago, jellyjambo said:

The 10 hour window for everyone to turn in sounds like a better idea.  That way it does not ruin those guilds who spent 40+ hours farming to just get beat by a top raid guild who cleared faster

 

everyone farming knew this from the beginning

[jellyjambo 0]

5 minutes ago, prutt said:

everyone farming knew this from the beginning

You are right but I would rather not see some dudes get fucked out of a mount. But maybe that is just because I sympathize with people who put the work in and come up short.

 

[NoGnomo 7]

Let people get the mount but dont start event until its Prime time on the server. No need to start it before.

Start it manually if needed

[prutt 0]

mounts and titles aside i think there needs to be some clarification if the actual opening (making AQ available) will be on the first gong, the sixth, or when the event is started or ended. Also how these potential changes would affect that.

[Fatherjames 0]

I am strongly against any last minute changes just for the sake if not having such precedents. No matter how badly/inapropriate you think it was planned, it was planned and announced to run in a specific way, people planned around that and chose to participate or not based on the rules you had set. Change it now from "6 first" to "10 hours" and it will be a gesture of complete disrespect for all those who chose not to try the wuest simply because the set rules weren't worth it.

[Sanders 3]

Do nothing!

[Fatherjames 0]

Also, I dont think that the active majority of how many? 300-400 players should in any case decide for a 4-5k realm. That is with 215 votes as of now.

[Staden 7]

A final decision has been made.

In an effort to be as fair as possible to guilds in various time zones, the window for obtaining the mount will be extended from 10 hours to 16 and the cap on the number of mounts has been removed, meaning we'll likely see 2-3 more mounts than originally announced.

The event itself will not be delayed and the gates will open as soon as the first player to complete the chain rings the gong. We'd encourage any players wishing to experience the opening of the gates to try to be available during Wednesday afternoon, server time. We'll mention it again in tomorrow's announcement.

Thank you.

[jellyjambo 0]

21 minutes ago, Fatherjames said:

Also, I dont think that the active majority of how many? 300-400 players should in any case decide for a 4-5k realm. That is with 215 votes as of now.

Most of those people voting are probably in the guilds that actually put in the time to grind 40+hours to get the rep and other things needed to complete the chain, so if anything those guys should be able to say what they want

[Imbaslap 14]

5 minutes ago, Staden said:

A final decision has been made.

In an effort to be as fair as possible to guilds in various time zones, the window for obtaining the mount will be extended from 10 hours to 16 and the cap on the number of mounts has been removed, meaning we'll likely see 2-3 more mounts than originally announced.

The event itself will not be delayed and the gates will open as soon as the first player to complete the chain rings the gong. We'd encourage any players wishing to experience the opening of the gates to try to be available during Wednesday afternoon, server time. We'll mention it again in tomorrow's announcement.

Thank you.

so you put a cap on mounts at the initial start, people complained and got dissuaded to even participate in the no life grind for it..

then you retract the custom change at the end of the event 2 days prior to the gong ringing open...

 

I'm glad the other guilds who raced for the scepter is getting mounts but damn talk about flip flopping decisions on a once in a server lifetime event. i sure hope darrowshire doesnt get the same treatment.

[dolantrump 0]

5 minutes ago, Staden said:

A final decision has been made.

In an effort to be as fair as possible to guilds in various time zones, the window for obtaining the mount will be extended from 10 hours to 16 and the cap on the number of mounts has been removed, meaning we'll likely see 2-3 more mounts than originally announced.

The event itself will not be delayed and the gates will open as soon as the first player to complete the chain rings the gong. We'd encourage any players wishing to experience the opening of the gates to try to be available during Wednesday afternoon, server time. We'll mention it again in tomorrow's announcement.

Thank you.

They got behind in the race because they lacked manpower and got griefed/couldn't farm enough. I doubt anyone who isn't done today or early tomorrow will finish the chain. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Imbaslap said:

so you put a cap on mounts at the initial start, people complained and got dissuaded to even participate in the no life grind for it..

then you retract the custom change at the end of the event 2 days prior to the gong ringing open...

 

I'm glad the other guilds who raced for the scepter is getting mounts but damn talk about flip flopping decisions on a once in a server lifetime event. i sure hope darrowshire doesnt get the same treatment.

They've explicitly said they were asking for community feedback up to this specific decision being made. Up to this point, no change was set in stone.

CLARIFYING EDIT: No further change to the AQ Event process beyond what was decided at our launch.

[jellyjambo 0]

5 minutes ago, Imbaslap said:

so you put a cap on mounts at the initial start, people complained and got dissuaded to even participate in the no life grind for it..

then you retract the custom change at the end of the event 2 days prior to the gong ringing open...

 

I'm glad the other guilds who raced for the scepter is getting mounts but damn talk about flip flopping decisions on a once in a server lifetime event. i sure hope darrowshire doesnt get the same treatment.

I think more people were dissuaded not by the cap on the mounts but by the amount of farming required.  As previously mentioned only 10 people are actually going to end up with the mount because the amount of farming and PvP occurring not many guilds could get into the hives and farm. 

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[Imbaslap 14]

5 minutes ago, Phoosy said:

They've explicitly said they were asking for community feedback up to this specific decision being made. Up to this point, no change was set in stone.

200 people voting  in under 6 hours is not the entire server community nor is it an accurate depiction to get a result with such a short notice.

regardless of the call, it's poor planning and decision making on the staff's part. this only makes the other realms on this project more concerned when they reach the same point that Anathema is currently (darrowshire next).  i think all the players on Anathema have a right to be upset with the current handling on this once in a server lifetime event, especially after playing on old Nostalrius over a year ago.

 

 

i sure hope everything goes well weds and we'll see what happens.

 

[Brain 2]

13 minutes ago, Staden said:

The event itself will not be delayed and the gates will open as soon as the first player to complete the chain rings the gong.

Kinda confusing with the information from the original "The Gates of Ahn'Qiraj" announcement:

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The gates of Ahn’Qiraj will be opened, and both AQ20 and AQ40 will be enterable immediately following the 10 hour event.

 

Can you clarify this? Does this mean AQ20 and AQ40 will be enterable the moment the first player rings the gong or 10 hours after?

[jellyjambo 0]

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[Staden 7]

4 minutes ago, Brain said:

Kinda confusing with the information from the original "The Gates of Ahn'Qiraj" announcement:

 

Can you clarify this? Does this mean AQ20 and AQ40 will be enterable the moment the first player rings the gong or 10 hours after?

The raids will be available when the first player rings the gong. The instances weren't locked until the end of the event back in 2006.

[Haitharn 2]

1 minute ago, jellyjambo said:

after the first person rings the going a 10 hour countdown will begin, at the end of those 10 hours the gates to AQ20 and 40 will be available to enter

Delete your post cause you're just plain wrong.