Black lotus over 100 gold again

[Khree 0]

good job on dreamfoil. it saved you server pretty much

 

on the other hand Black lotus is crazy stuff even tho it has 15 min respown timer, double the spown rate its current value or at least make it spown 2 lotuses per zone in a same time. soon enough lotus will be back at 150 gold per. for AQ i still use 2-3 flasks. not mentioning BWL speed runs

 

guys go ahead and double the spown rate for black lotus. this pricing is insane

[Lifealert 19]

Good

[Slicy 11]

You don't need flasks to clear AQ. If you're using 2-3 flasks for 1 AQ, you're doing it wrong.

Nobody forcing you to do BWL speedruns either.

Suck it up if you want to chug flasks when you don't need to. You said it yourself, spawn rate of lotus is quite fast anyways.

Alternatively you can stop being enslaved by market prices, go out in Azeroth and get herbs yourself.

[TheRealJindo 1]

Yeah.. Using 4 flasks a week, uh, vanilla was NOT made for that.

[mytchi3 1]

Bad troll attempt with that gr0mmar. Dont use flasks unless needed and you will see its justfine. If you dont, dont come complaining here.

[Oshy 1]

Unless your a dead weight casual leeching shitter, using 2-3 lotus a week is not uncommon at all. That being said, the demand should start to drop off as AQ40 becomes farm content and its gear eases bwl clears.

[mytchi3 1]

1 minute ago, Oshy said:

Unless your a dead weight casual leeching shitter, using 2-3 lotus a week is not uncommon at all. That being said, the demand should start to drop off as AQ40 becomes farm content and its gear eases bwl clears.

Depends on class. Furys and rogues are perfectly fine with greater resist potions, healthstones/pots and zg flask to prevent dieing at worldbuff. Absolutely no need for flask of titans. Casters can use flsk to push meters but thats about it. And unlucky mage is gona pull aggro on ignite rolls if flasked.

[Oshy 1]

Can you do AQ40 without flasks? Yes of course but having that extra survivability really helps retain world buffs and protect against unlucky RNG or dumb mistakes which happen to the best of us. Retaining world buffs and avoiding sub 40 man encounters due to deaths really speeds up the raid as a whole and exponentially increases your chances for success on the more difficult encounters. Fury/rogues really should be flasking, if nothing else, for soaking Huhu and c'thun.

[Shaze 1]

Flasks are for progression, not for regular farm. Yeah, first weeks can be expensive, but then you shouldn't need them. And BWL speed run? Don't make me laugh, that's just pure greed. Nobody is forcing you to do that.

[Oshy 1]

13 minutes ago, Shaze said:

Flasks are for progression, not for regular farm. Yeah, first weeks can be expensive, but then you shouldn't need them. And BWL speed run? Don't make me laugh, that's just pure greed. Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Agreed that most of the server omits flasking for BWL, even MTs, and that most of the server treats them as a 'progression only' consumable, however many guilds including my own have tryhards that carry the casuals by flasking for progression & farm content either for the betterment of the raid or for realmplayer eepeen. In the end it is the individual's decision to flask or not, however that may have an impact on their raid's performance as well as that individual's placement within a guild.

[Undertanker 88]

On 5/14/2017 at 4:43 AM, TheRealJindo said:

Yeah.. Using 4 flasks a week, uh, vanilla was NOT made for that.

Until Naxx. :)

[Justme 9]

1 hour ago, Undertanker said:

Until Naxx. :)

It's very simple. If you don't think the flask price is worth it then don't buy it.
If your guild asks you to be flasked for 4 hours/week and you cant meet those requirments then talk about it within your guild. A solution could be raiding less hours , thus being flasked for less hours.

[Slicy 11]

On 15/05/2017 at 5:48 PM, Oshy said:

Fury/rogues really should be flasking, if nothing else, for soaking Huhu and c'thun.

Loled.

[Haestingas 30]

We are not alliance with +10% hp across the board from kings, the flask really does help on C'thun for horde and is one of the reasons we are one of the few guilds to kill cthun hordeside. We struggle on that fight + ouro due to being very melee heavy so every buff counts.

[Justme 9]

17 minutes ago, Haestingas said:

We are not alliance with +10% hp across the board from kings, the flask really does help on C'thun for horde and is one of the reasons we are one of the few guilds to kill cthun hordeside. We struggle on that fight + ouro due to being very melee heavy so every buff counts.

Wont combining an elixer and food buff provide you with enough hp? Ofc not as much as a flask

[Haestingas 30]

On our 2 kills we had zg heart buff, zanza, both greater shadow and greater nature pre popped, stam drink, elixir of fort, full dps consumes, stam or str food, and titans raid wide. This allowed for our entire raid to survive a small claw knockback into a double link, where the 3rd person on the link would barely survive. The change they did to phase one makes a small claw spawn every 5 seconds, and since they knockback on the spawn there's a fairly high chance you will eat a knockback into a link in phase 1. We run very light on druids so we really cant afford more then ~3 deaths If we want to kill Cthun in 2 weakened phases.

[Hurricane2 2]

2 hours ago, Haestingas said:

We are not alliance with +10% hp across the board from kings, the flask really does help on C'thun for horde and is one of the reasons we are one of the few guilds to kill cthun hordeside. We struggle on that fight + ouro due to being very melee heavy so every buff counts.

Kings says 10% but you don't actually go from 4k no to 4.4k.  More like 4.25k.

[mytchi3 1]

Im only happy at least there is demand for black lotuses.

[saintnixon 0]

Quit getting extorted by herbalists by becoming an herbalist.

[Imbaslap 14]

On 5/14/2017 at 4:18 AM, Slicy said:

You don't need flasks to clear AQ. If you're using 2-3 flasks for 1 AQ, you're doing it wrong.

Nobody forcing you to do BWL speedruns either.

Suck it up if you want to chug flasks when you don't need to. You said it yourself, spawn rate of lotus is quite fast anyways.

Alternatively you can stop being enslaved by market prices, go out in Azeroth and get herbs yourself.

^

[Slicy 11]

You don't need flasks on melees with already over 5, 6, 7 or even 8k HP for C'thun or Huhuran. You don't need any flask on healers either.

You can kill C'thun with 3 weakened phases. You can kill C'thun without any world buff.

"Titans raid wide" and full world buffs is not gonna make you get any better at defeating the encounter. For a progression kill maybe (it's possible without any really right now considering how the fight is) but are you gonna make 40 ppl use titans every week to kill 1 boss ? That's overkill and you will burn out your ppl more than anything.

 

If you can't kill C'thun because you had 3 deaths, reconsider how you do the fight. It's doable with 5+ deaths after CRs used and 4091 resistances on every type of tentacle of the fight and in 3 phases.

[Imbaslap 14]

Slicy is selling C'thun clear strats, PST him with paypal donation of 50 Euros.

results may vary.

[Slicy 11]

2 minutes ago, Imbaslap said:

Slicy is selling C'thun clear strats, PST him with paypal donation of 50 yuan.

results will vary.

fixed

[Haestingas 30]

We may very well not need the flasks, but it definitely helps and we gave members warning months ago to expect to flask on cthun for a while. No shit you can kill Cthun with 3 weakened phases, im sure you can kill it with 4.  As for the deaths quite frankly we don't have enough kills to see what we can get away with, we have either had 10+ deaths and wiped or ~2 deaths and killed it. Phase 2 imo is easier than phase 1 except for the fucking stomach bug causing those people to 100% die and you cant even soulstone or brez them.

We are happy to flask if that gives us reliable C'thun kills. Hell there's a lot of guilds flasking that still havnt killed Cthun despite 12h+ wiping on em.

[Slicy 11]

WTS pro tip for stomach stacks bug thing. Think of how many wipes and consums it would save, come up with a real offer.