What Is Being Done To Combat BG Afking?

[Jdude2021 1]

Ok seriously...If you look back at my posting profile I've been complaining about this for months now...

WHAT IS ELYSIUM STAFF DOING TO COMBAT THE CONSTANT AFKS ON HORDE SIDE IN BGS? Even against pug groups horde are afking by the masses (5people+ at a time) Most of the people afking are people that are r5 or lower. I can almost promise you that some of the ally cucks are multiboxing OR people are BOT AFK farming AB. 

It's literally the same thing every damn week. 

Reset on Wednesday, Ally run 10 premades all day from Wednesday-Saturday....Horde afks in every game there is a premade...Horde ATTEMPS to win against a premade, but once ally cap it 3-2 horde automatically goes back to afking..

You guys tell us to report AFKers in game..Yet the only reponse I get from GMs is "We will look into it." 6h into the day/the next day and the mother fuckers I reported for afking are still in game...

So whats the point? Do we just have to accept the fact the horde isn't able to PvP on Elysium, the PVP server? Am I really being forced into World pvp only, unless I can get into 1 of the TWO premades that horde runs? There is such a massive language barrier and lack of cooperation that makes it almost impossible for horde to have more than 2 premades....Not to mention any of the horde that want to join a premade are severely undergeared/underanked due to how long (4+months now) Ally have been getting free wins due to their oppenents CONSTANTLY AFKING in AB for hours on end...getting 1 token per 5-10minutes and ZERO honor for a 0-2k loss, EVEN ON BG WEEKEND.

I don't get how horde can sit there and waste 15-30minutes for 400 honor and an asswhopping...UNLESS...they are afk farming or multiboxing to get easy honor for their ally mains... The logic for 30minutes for 400honor doesnt make anysense when I can go do World PvP and get 400 honor in 2 kills..

So Elysium Staff...Any thoughts, other than making Respecs 25g, to increase pvp on the PVP server?

[Guest]

Quoting myself on another thread about this subject.

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Our ticket system is the appropriate method to report AFKers - more often then not we receive just a quick few word message of "<name> afk in BG plz ban" with no evidence via screenshots, recordings, or context and that's not including the numerous AFKers that never get reported at all. These reports are worthless in the immediate as they require us to then investigate the player and watch for further behavior - which means multiple team members checking around the clock to verify the accusation for every report. Multiply that by 4 (soon 3) servers and add that in with the multitude of other issues we have to deal with and you begin to understand why this is a problem.

Additionally, AFKing starts off with a warning per our Terms of Use. If someone is caught doing it once, they'll likely do it again - keep reporting them. Sanctions accumulate to longer bans the more a player offends, and we have no qualms about sanctioning a player who continues to break the same rule despite being warned. However: be honest. Give us the facts about what happened, take screenshots, and note every time it happens. The players are the Project's biggest strength, and without the players helping us we would not be nearly as effective at helping you.

Would adding a dedicated Game Master to battlegrounds resolve this? Maybe. However, that is not an effective use of their time, as there are many things a GM can be doing to assist our players and Battlegrounds are one part of many.

Citation: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/48408-how-about-a-bg-exclusive-gm/

[TTL 6]

7 hours ago, Phoosy said:

Quoting myself on another thread about this subject.

Citation: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/48408-how-about-a-bg-exclusive-gm/

The first thing you could do is actually address the main issue which is 20 premades vs. 2 premades and people are sick and tired of getting steamrolled by coordinated / heavy stam teams.

The afkers are already being punished, I find some irony in punishing them even more while I agree afking is not cool. We just need to realize that Elysiums 60 bracket is not balanced at all and if we want to improve it then try balancing it rather than punishing the people who are already getting punished anyways.

[Taipann 0]

Absolute truth and main problem... Although it is not a premade, Horde always stop at farm wating for take 5 a bases and get instant loose, with no effort.

[szuszak 2]

10 hours ago, TTL said:

The first thing you could do is actually address the main issue which is 20 premades vs. 2 premades and people are sick and tired of getting steamrolled by coordinated / heavy stam teams.

The afkers are already being punished, I find some irony in punishing them even more while I agree afking is not cool. We just need to realize that Elysiums 60 bracket is not balanced at all and if we want to improve it then try balancing it rather than punishing the people who are already getting punished anyways.

yep limit the god damn premades to 5 ppl max already 

[TTL 6]

16 hours ago, Taipann said:

Absolute truth and main problem... Although it is not a premade, Horde always stop at farm wating for take 5 a bases and get instant loose, with no effort.

It's hard to tell which is a premade sometimes, i'm sure they are just use to fighting premades 80% of the time and that's why but I agree afking is lame and should not be supported here but there is a bigger issue to deal with than afkers. Strike the problem at it's core.

[adamwarlock55 0]

this guy is true

i play both side

on ally, no problem. no afk and all of the players are playing..and something really good, we have healers whose heals the teamates...

 

Now, horde > each bg, half of the people are afk...no healers....there is nothing in this side .only be farmed by the ally

 

[Ourk 5]

On 16/06/2017 at 3:08 AM, TTL said:

the main issue which is 20 premades vs. 2 premades

Hi,

I don't do BG. But i don't understand why allies have premades and hordies haven't? What are the reasons?

[Ticklish Bunny 0]

On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 8:08 AM, szuszak said:

yep limit the god damn premades to 5 ppl max already 

Sorry but welcome to vanilla. So funny when people complain something isn't authentic to Vanilla or scold retail players yet want to alter what was originally in Vanilla. Reporting is your only option.

[TTL 6]

16 hours ago, Ourk said:

Hi,

I don't do BG. But i don't understand why allies have premades and hordies haven't? What are the reasons?

I think a lot of tryhard players and guilds in general roll Alliance since it allows for easy mode PvE/PvP with paladins>shamans.

[TTL 6]

4 hours ago, Ticklish Bunny said:

Sorry but welcome to vanilla. So funny when people complain something isn't authentic to Vanilla or scold retail players yet want to alter what was originally in Vanilla. Reporting is your only option.

Changing the respec cost from 50g to 25g isn't authentic.... having nerfed items like Ironfoe which wasn't nerfed until later isn't authentic..... nerfing gold farms all over the game isn't authentic.... having BG queues inside the major cities isn't authentic... 

I'm not sure what your spewing but I can tell you it's not reality. Obviously Elysium will make changes to make a majority of it's player base happy or for long term health of the server. Yes we want to keep the game as much alike as it was back then, but at the same time changes will happen that make the majority happy. If those who premade are only 10% of the PvP playerbase and the other 90% want 5 man queues to be the biggest size then you can bet it will happen based on other changes.

[Justme 9]

Single queueing doesn't even make sense. You don't single queue a football game and you don't single queue a basketball game :S

Why do you expect to win vs a team? Just play with friends like we Alliance do. We're usually not even good it's just that we play together in a MMO.

[Garun 9]

2 hours ago, Justme said:

Single queueing doesn't even make sense. You don't single queue a football game and you don't single queue a basketball game :S

Why do you expect to win vs a team? Just play with friends like we Alliance do. We're usually not even good it's just that we play together in a MMO.

It wouldn't be so bad if only a few of the games were against premades, but it happens WAY TOO OFTEN on horde side. The next time you have a long BG queue, you can thank the premades for scaring off the horde pugs.

[Ourk 5]

5 hours ago, TTL said:

I think a lot of tryhard players and guilds in general roll Alliance since it allows for easy mode PvE/PvP with paladins>shamans.

Hi,

TYVM for your answer.

I always thought that Horde racials (Will of the Forsaken, War Stomp) were vastly superior in PvP and then tryhard PvP players were mostly rolling Horde.  So, I was wrong.

TY again.

[csant 3]

1 hour ago, Ourk said:

Hi,

TYVM for your answer.

I always thought that Horde racials (Will of the Forsaken, War Stomp) were vastly superior in PvP and then tryhard PvP players were mostly rolling Horde.  So, I was wrong.

TY again.

That really doesn't apply to vanilla. It in TBC where horde racials really took off and pvp'rs went horde. 

[Justme 9]

4 hours ago, Ourk said:

Hi,

TYVM for your answer.

I always thought that Horde racials (Will of the Forsaken, War Stomp) were vastly superior in PvP and then tryhard PvP players were mostly rolling Horde.  So, I was wrong.

TY again.

horde racials are amazing 1v1. but wotf alone wont make you win a group fight.

also orc stun resist is their best

[Masteridley 3]

There's actually a really simple solution to this, don't roll horde. 

This is exactly how it was on Nost and on Kronos so it's something everyone could have seen coming. I personally wanted to play horde (as a shaman) but I didn't because I decided I would rather have instant BG queues.

Also consider that the grass is always greener. I keep a tally on the outcome of my BG's matches since I hit 60. Out of 42 total pug AB's we have won 6 of those and lost the other 36. 

[Vollfos 2]

thats the case , alliance pugs are really the worst, ( and they have alot of afkers too) and this reasons of having afker and lots of bad players, many alliance want to play in premades, or like me create a new premade to win this , because i mentioned that you can easy beat higher ranked player with some organisation and good leading.

 

many casual players decided to get horde because of pvp racials, but a bad player with good racials still is a bad player ( same for pve  , a good geared player is still bader then a not that good geared player with skill) , and many people in the allince premades just play for items , to improve their raidperformance. i think 80% of all rank 12+ players are in raiding guilds. which means they get pce gear for pvp and pvp gear for pve. they still can suck, but they know how the system works , im not the best pvp player, but i lead my premade to win.

 

on the other hand the honor pool on alliance side is that hight that you need afker on horde to reach the brackets1-2-3

 

[Pottu 290]

On 2017-6-16 at 2:08 AM, TTL said:

The first thing you could do is actually address the main issue which is 20 premades vs. 2 premades and people are sick and tired of getting steamrolled by coordinated / heavy stam teams.

Make your own premade. Problem solved.

As my colleague said, use the ticket system to report players you suspect of being AFK. We have to catch them in the act, so it is entirely possible that someone looks AFK to you but when we check, they are actively playing.