killerduki 54 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) If he is posting on-topic, regardless of what you think about his argument(s). Whether is he right or wrong does not matter. I like how Pottu think everyone should act. Apparently this is not the case especially in these forums . Some examples what kind of "treating" you get today in these forums and internet: https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=23585&p=248808 Seriously can you just stop posting or atleast keep yourself to the Paladin forums where your half-baked theorycrafting can sit. It is a horrible horrible misrepresentation of how someone should be looking at gearing their caster. Stop trying to present this as a legitimate outlook on stat values. Are you going to show up in the mage and warlock forums and tell them that Int is their most important stat too? https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=23585&p=249547 PS: We might as well turn this thread into music/pictures/random stuff, it has no other purpose. https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=23585&p=249138 Actually all your posts have done is prove how seriously flawed your idea of theorycrafting is. It is quite pathetic. The idea of basing your theorycrafting on a naked lvl 60 toon is laughable. https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=23585&p=251076 Jesus Christ dude. I've tried my best to deal with your autism over 2 years Yeah , i can say treat each other not gonna work, not because of the purpose of those comments, but because of the overall mindset especially in so called "western world" without proper educational culture of "Attitude", where they won't last 10 minutes without shooting some insults or derailing you and trolling you when it happen some sort of "misunderstanding or different point of view" . /Kind regards Killerduki Edited December 6, 2016 by killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windslav 2 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 If you do not experience the game, how do you know if it will be fun or not? If you have not raided, have not done Mythic+ and the only thing you do is missions in your class halls and some world quests, what do you expect? Of course you can do whatever you want but I am really curious to point me what will do at vanilla as well, when you clear your raids in first day of each new reset. PvP? Good you do that in every expansion as well. Farm for gold? Great you do that in every expansion as well. What else? I want to know your definition of fun on this game. You know what? Let's, for the argument's sake, assume that it will indeed be fun later on. How many hours will it take me to get there? 10? 20? 40? Can you give me a reason why I should put in the hours and the effort and the patience required to get to the fun point if I could just go play a different game, one that is fun from start to finish? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rikkisix 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) No we don't? We have to tolerate eachother. Kindness is given as well as earned same with respect, why should i treat anyone here like i'm a buddie of theirs if i dislike what they post? Personally i dislike a lot of these fresh start people, Nost was a great server and i mean sure it sucks they didn't get to enjoy it. But then these people come out of no where and demmand that the older playerbase gets screwed, Like it or not WE the old Nost players Made Nost what it was. (Yes The Dev Team helped, but that only gets you so far.) Nost had everything retail had, Your eliteist Gymrat wanabe ваууboi's Your raiders, your Casual guilds. Your hook up, your IRL drug buddies. and the insane nerds and PVP rats, all that mixed in with professional Staff made it. Yes we get it you want a fresh start, but we don't want to throw away people the adventure and фекал we duped in, yea yea i hear that people want to start over, and i'm sure i'll roll on there as well later on, but you fresh start people have no proof that you're willing to put in the effort most of you are green comming out of retail sorry to say atleast 40% of you won't last. (Bullshit numbers no fact!) I just don't understand there are a ton of other servers you could of all rolled on, yet here you are. We moved through the trench's to get here, this land of somewhat hope. Yet the Fresh start people, already where at the Oasis waiting for us. But hey, i can't change the way you think all i can ask for is the dying mindset that is empathy, Personally i think you should help some one but at the same time be an asshole to them, people who don't suffer turn out to be weak or unable to grasp the world themselves struggle for everything untill it breaks you enough to grow. But this is just a 2006 videogame where i want to flirt with every Tauren woman, and i'm winning. (( Honestly this is bullshit, since i respect Vanilla coummunity to much i more so mean this as a general Point of view. Also if you're looking for friends, i'll be a buddie of anybody вау that i don't if you hate me, i know good people and i'm a part time asshole!) Edited December 6, 2016 by rikkisix 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tholren 7 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 I agree very much with the general message you want to convey. People could be excellent to one another, based on the fact that we all have someone we rather love in common. Regarding the streamer we all know who it is but won't name even though he posted in this thread already, it is true that words can hurt a person, but not nearly as much as a F-22 Raptor can. So, until they decide to come at him with one of those, I'm sure he can take it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faith 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 People will quickly figure out they can't be попа hats. Why? Because it's not retail, where you have a certain level of anonymity. Nobody will group with them, nobody will take them into their guild, nobody will give them a raid spot. You will get blacklisted very very quickly.. PvE server was pretty good to be fair mind. In b4 'pve sux rofl kek bur' Exactly right!!! P.S. We are going to DPS very very VERY SLOWLY!! and by slow I mean FAKING SLOW!!!! ~ Faith~ p.p.s Who is the streamer in here.. besides me of course xD 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elviss 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 Yeah those people eventually get themselves banned, and sit on ignore list. With high pop, the list can get full and would clear it out every few months. Rude people are everywhere. Ever been to a movie opening? You know that those addons have unlimited ignore list, right? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elviss 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 Elviss, Every post you make is about manners and behaviour. It feels you are setting yourself up so you can do some real rage posting later about the "toxicity of the community". Why not just play the game instead? It is pretty obvious, no need for post about that. And I can't "just play the game", as you put it, since, obviously, servers are not up yet. And dw, once servers are up, you and all other trolls will be as important to me as last year's snow. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shayss 43 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 I don't think calling out what I see trolling though. It wasn't like I attacked you either. Infact I pretty much just said it looks like you want to rage about it later and that you should rather play the game instead. (obviously servers aren't up yet xD) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faith 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 The fear of the blacklist... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elviss 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 I don't think calling out what I see trolling though. It wasn't like I attacked you either. Infact I pretty much just said it looks like you want to rage about it later and that you should rather play the game instead. (obviously servers aren't up yet xD) Well, your felth it wrong, but nevertheless, no harm done. And, yea, play the game I will, as said in wise words of master Yoda xD 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmizz 0 Report post Posted December 6, 2016 I've noticed lately the average teenager is 100x more stupid than I ever was. They have no confidence and can't accept being wrong about anything. Any attempt to tell them they're wrong is met with declaration of war. Vanilla WoW is going to expose a lot of cucks, and this fresh server business shows it in spades. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tholren 7 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 I've noticed lately the average teenager is 100x more stupid than I ever was. I bet that if you could go back and listen to yourself back then, you'd probably be scared, haha. Vanilla WoW is going to expose a lot of cucks, and this fresh server business shows it in spades. I am inclined to believe, based off of the behavior of both "groups" present in these forums (groups being the old Nost players and the people who will roll of fresh) that if the situation was it's very opposite, the group with the unsatisfying release schedule would behave no differently. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faith 5 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 I don't know how it will play out. I had 3 60's in Vanilla wow back on Doomhammer. Was a beta server! However, I will say the average teenager is way more stupid on the internet than I was. But then when I was a teenager there WAS NO INTERNET LMAO!!! I mean there was but it was so early on. People were actually nice to you then. No joke! ~ Faith ~ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elviss 5 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 However, I will say the average teenager is way more stupid on the internet than I was. But then when I was a teenager there WAS NO INTERNET LMAO!!! I mean there was but it was so early on. People were actually nice to you then. No joke! ~ Faith ~ BBS forums ftw! oh yea, and 56k connection, I still feel excited when i hear sound of modem connecting, in some movie or TV show... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windslav 2 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) BBS forums ftw! oh yea, and 56k connection, I still feel excited when i hear sound of modem connecting, in some movie or TV show... Really? I get traumatic flashbacks. I've noticed lately the average teenager is 100x more stupid than I ever was. Ask your mom and your best friend from that time. Edited December 7, 2016 by windslav 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faith 5 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 BBS forums ftw! oh yea, and 56k connection, I still feel excited when i hear sound of modem connecting, in some movie or TV show... Haha yah!! 56k are you kidding me!! I started on 28.8 and I had friends on 14.4 I was like you sux!!! Then I got my U.S. Robotics 56k !! I was like... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utherael 3 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 The world needs Assholes. If we didn't have them then the good ones wouldn't seem so special. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justicegood254 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 HUmanity has gotten worse over the years. It seems as we head into the 21s century, hateful people and intelligent people are separating like oil and water. My idea of an intelligent person is someone who is at least self aware of their behaviors and actions and how they treat others as well is self aware of the mental thoughts and mental urges that appear in their heads. Now this is asking much but...most people are not that "tuned" into their human experiences. Most people are just plain dumb or negative and hateful. I can only say that eventually intelligent people will have to defend themselves against racists negative destructive people on earth. Sorry for my deep thoughts just came up with them just now ehehehe 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demonthese 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 HUmanity has gotten worse over the years. It seems as we head into the 21s century, hateful people and intelligent people are separating like oil and water. My idea of an intelligent person is someone who is at least self aware of their behaviors and actions and how they treat others as well is self aware of the mental thoughts and mental urges that appear in their heads. Now this is asking much but...most people are not that "tuned" into their human experiences. Most people are just plain dumb or negative and hateful. I can only say that eventually intelligent people will have to defend themselves against racists negative destructive people on earth. Sorry for my deep thoughts just came up with them just now ehehehe You voted Hillary didnt you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justicegood254 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 I didn't vote for anybody. I proudly support poor countries and eurpoen liberalism (the right to human rights and taking care of humanity animals and plants) and not the conservative word "liberal" that is used as a mainstream word in america to attack judge / disagree with democrats. Yes we need to be more intelligent and not so hateful. HUmanity is full of energies that are negative and bad to everybody. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demonthese 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 I didn't vote for anybody. I proudly support poor countries and eurpoen liberalism (the right to human rights and taking care of humanity animals and plants) and not the conservative word "liberal" that is used as a mainstream word in america to attack judge / disagree with democrats. Yes we need to be more intelligent and not so hateful. HUmanity is full of energies that are negative and bad to everybody. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsemaker 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Nothing like clearing out your ignore list and give everyone another opportunity to make you desire to /ignore them again so fast. "Patience is the key to success" and there is a lot of good people around. There's no doubt. Toxic people reveal themselves by time and i'm sure this new servers will have a good support for this kind of problems. At Nostalrius they did an amazing job... Everyone deserves a second opportunity Edited December 7, 2016 by Corpsemaker 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corpsemaker 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 The fear of the blacklist... True. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forexal 1 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) I blame league of legends for turning many WoW players into a bunch of angry children. The WoW community used to be so friendly and now it seems like they have become a bunch of plebs. Edited December 7, 2016 by Forexal 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demonthese 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) The only thing I really cant stand is an entitlement attitude. For instance, the people that think the Elysium team owes them the fresh server sooner even thought the team is doing the entire thing for free. That being said I really hope there is some drama and salt on the forums due to pvp and guild grudges. Edited December 7, 2016 by Demonthese 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
