Docholy 4 Report post Posted December 11, 2016 Sadly I think you're right Happy. Blizz all about the money - ain't no profit in Legacy at this point. Unlikely to be in the future either. Of course blizzard is about money but they are avoiding Legacy because it will cut away from Legion. The money will be made but Blizzard is scared of taking people out of in game stores that make them tons of cash. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 These people are monkey branching from the get go. I don't understand! Are they trying to imply monkeys are loose? Monkey doesn't think this is true at all, if someone said that around me I'd show them a thing or two! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forexal 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 2009 was still a good year to be honest. Patch 3.3 (dec 2009) introduced the (battlegroup based) dungeon finder and it was Cataclysm that really expanded it's functionality. That's when it all started to go downhill. The dungeonfinder was a part of the problem in WoWs really slow advancement to being less an MMO than a single player game with matchmaking services. Although Wotlk was my favourite expansion and when I found my favourite class and played the most content, I honestly see the beginning of the slow downfall of quality within Wotlk rather than Cata. If they had Wotlk with no dungeon finder or flying mounts and went on to add content in the vanilla/tbc spirit, WoW would have us all possibly playing it right now. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spoofyman 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 I can't decide if I'm pleased to see the launch covered on the BBC website or not. Fan-made version of 'Classic' World of Warcraft returns On the one hand it means a new audience talking about it - potentially some more players (I'm rolling on the fresh sever, didn't even know about Nost until the shutdown). On the other hand it's probably coverage that Blizzard isn't too thrilled to be getting ... What do others think? I already made a post about this 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowking 5 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 well atleast i can have fun for a month before they shut it down 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destron 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 I think flying was the beginning of the beginning of the end. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaelum 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Blizzard turning to Legacy servers would imply their new expansions/content is worse. And Blizz would never admit that. However, I do see them milking the cow if need be.. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xom 8 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 I think flying was the beginning of the beginning of the end. I'd say it was the Second Step. Cross-server PvP fell the first tree for the coffin. But it was not created out of whole cloth - we asked for it. But while we may now look back and shake our fists at Blizz - myself and other dedicated PvPers were asking for the ability to battle against better/more diverse opponents than the scrubs on the other side of our back-water realm or the well-geared but poorly-led teams who were our only trivial competition. We wanted true and difficult fights with worthy opponents, folks as geared and as dedicated as we were to winning. We were tired of people just AFKing out when they saw our team or the other teams just leaving the game the first time we scored on them. We had been loving PvP, it was our main focus - but by the end there was no challenge whatsoever. To some extent, we got more difficult matches with the cross-server PvP, but it began the bleak rise of anonymity in the game. Flying was certainly one thing, but if you want to think about the very very beginning of the end, some would point even further back than myself and claim that instanced PvP was the beginning of the end, or when Shaman/Paladin were allowed on the other side or sharing a single capital city. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustAThrowAway 1 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 I'd say it's bad for the server short term. The launch will be a shitshow (on all 3 realms) and MSM coverage won't make it any better. Long term it will make the servers more alive, which is good. If Elysium-team can improve server stability that is. I'm going to be optimistic though and put my faith in Elysium and assume that they can until proven otherwise. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pmizz 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 That post was so strong, holy вау 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smula 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 BBC coverage is good: -Blizz is run by marketing guys now. -Marketing guys fear negative publicity, so the report of BBC contributes to give this P-server a good spot light. Blizz will not release legacy anytime soon: -Blizz will never make legacy server because they can´t sell their addons, instant lvl 60, gold, recruit a friend and so on...ah and a item shop at all on one of those. -This would be lower expected income for blizz. A smart idea of blizz would be to ignore elysium and hope the hype will go down and they got still enough players on "their wow" Maybe put some transmog on the item shop to balance the possible loss of players (income) out. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bonappetit 2 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) I think they know for certainty that if they make a legacy server they acknowledge how bad the retail is, the wrong path they took since few expansions ago. Also the negative publicity, from their point of view they can't allow that. We all know what Activision did to Call of Duty. Edited December 15, 2016 by Bonappetit 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winfernal 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) First of all, lets just try to understand that blizz will never make legacy servers. And if they would, it will not be anything like the original wow. Any PR is good PR for the private server community. Vanilla is what it is, it will always be the same content. All we can do is improve the community and server stability/scripting. Fresh players = good. Edited December 15, 2016 by Winfernal 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zealotz 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Bump. It's being talked about on the WoW official forums.https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752496538?page=1Even there, people are defending Elysium. I'm happy to see that. I used to condemn people that played on private servers, but I see now that part of the appeal is that your character is going to stay reliable.No nerfs, no "balance changes", no expansions about "class fantasy" that (ironically) make your class and spec unrecognizably foreign to you in every way.That said, I won't be checking it out, but I now have a lot more compassion and understanding towards players that do. Edited December 15, 2016 by Zealotz 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faith 5 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) I can't decide if I'm pleased to see the launch covered on the BBC website or not. Fan-made version of 'Classic' World of Warcraft returns On the one hand it means a new audience talking about it - potentially some more players (I'm rolling on the fresh sever, didn't even know about Nost until the shutdown). On the other hand it's probably coverage that Blizzard isn't too thrilled to be getting ... What do others think? This is the second time I've seen someone post this link. I actually troll blizzard and mike morhaime on twitter all the time.... sending them screen shots of me playing vanilla.. quoting account numbers on nostalrius.. i love messing with the giant that is Blizzard Entertainment.... :P Edited December 15, 2016 by Faith 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites