OcClutch 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Ive been interested in leaving my healing role and rolling dps... idk if ret is good or not, what do you peps think? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undertanker 88 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showforum=277 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lifealert 19 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 reroll warrior 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danko 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 kek. no 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pixelslyna 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 The damage output is rather weak Non tryhard guilds will allow you to come provided that you have Nightfall though 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Ive been interested in leaving my healing role and rolling dps... idk if ret is good or not, what do you peps think? It's possible with dedication and a thick skin - you need to be up to the challenge of farming mats/gold for consumables and come prepared to every raid. Keep track of one of the top raiding Ret Paladins playing - Smiter - he took my playstyle/rotation and perfected it both here and on Vanilla Gaming where he and I played the past few months: http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Smiter http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Smiter http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=VG&player=Smiterr http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=VG&player=Smiterr 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vomit 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Ret pallys are a blast for solo pve. But truly useless in raids. Their best dps is comparable to a crappy rogues worst dps. The only time a ret pally can keep up with a raid group's other dps is when the other dps really sucks. There are a lot of people that swear they were, or know someone who was an amazing ret pally, but most likely, the rest of the raid groups dps just sucked and their tanks and heals were the amazing ones. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aslan 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 If you really want it I guess you can find a guild that takes you into their raid roster, but there were like 100 alliance raiding guilds on nost, makes what... 500 paladins? 3 of which were ret? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 If you really want it I guess you can find a guild that takes you into their raid roster, but there were like 100 alliance raiding guilds on nost, makes what... 500 paladins? 3 of which were ret? I'd say there was about a baker's dozen of raiding Ret Paladins or thereabouts 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
filitz 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 AUTISM linking raidstats of фекал guilds where everyone has average 300 dps doesn't mean that player or the spec is good 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotmilk0112 10 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Inb4 Killerduki comes in and says Ret is great DPS The only time you'll be brought to raid as Ret is if you've got a Nightfall. Even with leet epix and tons of consumables, you still do less DPS than a blue-geared Rogue or Mage. You'll be brought to raid for pally buffs, Nightfall debuff, and maybe some dispels / emergency heals. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 Inb4 Killerduki comes in and says Ret is great DPS The only time you'll be brought to raid as Ret is if you've got a Nightfall. Even with leet epix and tons of consumables, you still do less DPS than a blue-geared Rogue or Mage. You'll be brought to raid for pally buffs, Nightfall debuff, and maybe some dispels / emergency heals. Inb4 you trashtalk more with false information where Warrior offtank are the ones that should always bring Nightfall with them and not Paladin since it suck for dps: https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=22868 /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theloras 108 Report post Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) linking raidstats of фекал guilds where everyone has average 300 dps doesn't mean that player or the spec is good I'd rather be in a фекал guild as you put it than be in yours which is full of complete douchebag human beings who take a 12 year old video game much too seriously... But that's me! Edited December 15, 2016 by Theloras 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Av_vA 3044 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Is Ret Paladin Good In PvE? No. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simppi 3 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Depends on what you mean by "good"? You will be able to out-dps hunters and sub-par dpses like that if you put alot of effort into it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stif 1 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 youre capability depends on youre selfe 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
filitz 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 You will be able to out-dps hunters and sub-par dpses like that if you put alot of effort into it. if those "hunters" and "sub-par dpses" put a lot of effort into it aswell, you're at the bottom once again. basically what you are doing is forcing yourself to play with mouthbreathers so your spec is even somewhat competitive. give it a rest will ya. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simppi 3 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) if those "hunters" and "sub-par dpses" put a lot of effort into it aswell, you're at the bottom once again. basically what you are doing is forcing yourself to play with mouthbreathers so your spec is even somewhat competitive. give it a rest will ya. No, you will always out-dps a hunter with the same effort and gear (past a certain point). Edited December 15, 2016 by simppi 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proofwashere 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 No, you will always out-dps a hunter with the same effort and gear (past a certain point). MFW I read your post Tell me more o' wise one 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simppi 3 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 MFW I read your post Tell me more o' wise one Not sure what this is supposed to mean. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proofwashere 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Not sure what this is supposed to mean. I'm saying we're all laughing at you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Hunters DPS vs Pala DPS. /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simppi 3 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 I'm saying we're all laughing at you. Happy to entertain I'm saying we're all laughing at you. Happy to entertain 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shuraken007 345 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Basically you will have 60% from dd class. You may eat everything that use range dd and melee dd. Have stack of dark runes and mana potions. Steal all crit items from warriors(you need many crit to have nonstop vengeance, top gear+top buff = 50+% crit). Make other buffs like tribut run, blasted lands and other, crit flower from felwood. Case warrior will have good items and all that buffs - he will aggro mobs\boss and die soon(any good dd), yes of course holy damage make more trit, but you have buble, selfheal. You may upgrade from 60% raid damage to 90%, if you save buffs and other raid members are lazy, you will be able to do top5-top3 in best case(as example in molten core). It's too hard, better to have real dd class. But it's possible if you will spend anoth time for raid preparing. http://radikal.ru/users/Shuraken007#alb=Shen_Retric Edited December 15, 2016 by shuraken007 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victor - Koru 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2016 Hunters DPS vs Pala DPS. /Kind regards Killerduki posting screenshots from Feenix on Elysium-forum makes you like a fool. How can you even compare those servers. Also it seems like you joined a PUG, best envoirment to show your skills. Saw some of the Youtube-Videos of Theloras with the title "viable DPS @..." i was just disgusted. Not only that you could be in a proper specc, you just comsumed the debuffslots with your worthless фекал. All people that call Ret-paladins good DPS in raids are just trash in my eyes. Just go to the trainer and respecc to a proper raidroll. Thank you. Retpaladins are not viable! THEY ARE фекал, OKEY?! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites