A PVP server and a PVE server, Please

[Worldstar 36]

It is literally fine. You are just pissy because you don't like sitting in a que which will be ваууing gone in 2 weeks time. The irony of someone not using their brain calling others idiots.

And you are just scared that nobody will want to play on a server where people have 5 months of progress ahead of everyone else if a fresh PVE server was actually released. :/ Many players that would otherwise choose a fresh PVE server will end up playing on the fresh PVP server making it even more overpopulated. Get ready for those queue times boys.

[Glenzig 34]

And you are just scared that nobody will want to play on a server where people have 5 months of progress ahead of everyone else if a fresh PVE server was actually released. :/ Many players that would otherwise choose a fresh PVE server will end up playing on the fresh PVP server making it even more overpopulated. Get ready for those queue times boys.

I see no issues with a new pve server, if the devs feel it's needed. Wiping the current pve server would be really stupid though. Give it a few weeks and the pop will stabilize. Elysium should be launched by then, and you'll start to to get a better grasp of what the servers will look like.

[Worldstar 36]

I see no issues with a new pve server, if the devs feel it's needed. Wiping the current pve server would be really stupid though. Give it a few weeks and the pop will stabilize. Elysium should be launched by then, and you'll start to to get a better grasp of what the servers will look like.

I wasn't being serious when I suggested wiping the PVE server. I was just trying to get the point across that it is just as frustrating to people that want a server to start fresh on to have to choose to play on a server where people are so far ahead already vs starting on a new server. It is to the point where me and a few others starting with me are going to have to play on the PVP server which is not that big of a deal, but i'd prefer to play on a PVE server and be able to be competitive vs having to play on a PVP server.

[Glenzig 34]

I wasn't being serious when I suggested wiping the PVE server. I was just trying to get the point across that it is just as frustrating to people that want a server to start fresh on to have to choose to play on a server where people are so far ahead already vs starting on a new server. It is to the point where me and a few others starting with me are going to have to play on the PVP server which is not that big of a deal, but i'd prefer to play on a PVE server and be able to be competitive vs having to play on a PVP server.

PVE server is not that far progressed though. You won't be "left behind". If you want to play on pve, play on pve. What exactly is involved in being "competitive" on a pve server anyway?

[Worldstar 36]

PVE server is not that far progressed though. You won't be "left behind". If you want to play on pve, play on pve. What exactly is involved in being "competitive" on a pve server anyway?

That's kind of a silly question. The same is involved in being competitive on a PVE server as is on a PVP server. It's not like people are only competitive on PVP servers because you are always flagged for world pvp. Most people would have a desire to obtain the best gear they can before others/beat raid bosses before others/etc. It's not like that's a PVP server exclusive thing. I'm not sure where people get this idea that everyone on PVE servers just sits around Thunderbluff and holds each other's hands but that was never my experience on retail.

[Glenzig 34]

That's kind of a silly question. The same is involved in being competitive on a PVE server as is on a PVP server. It's not like people are only competitive on PVP servers because you are always flagged for world pvp. Most people would have a desire to obtain the best gear they can before others/beat raid bosses before others/etc. It's not like that's a PVP server exclusive thing. I'm not sure where people get this idea that everyone on PVE servers just sits around Thunderbluff and holds each other's hands but that was never my experience on retail.

For the record, I play on the pve server.

So, it's really just about world firsts? If that's the case, then there is more than enough time for that. There is still a ton of content that hasn't been released yet, and won't be for a while.

[Mealticket 0]

For the record, I play on the pve server.

So, it's really just about world firsts? If that's the case, then there is more than enough time for that. There is still a ton of content that hasn't been released yet, and won't be for a while.

I thought we played the game to beat it. Beating vanilla involves naxx. What's the point of leveling just to play Mc? I'll never get it, I suppose.

[cybaster 31]

Considering the unprecedented demand, two fresh servers really a good idea.

[Glenzig 34]

I thought we played the game to beat it. Beating vanilla involves naxx. What's the point of leveling just to play Mc? I'll never get it, I suppose.

Did you quote the wrong person?

[szuszak 2]

lol its funny to see how similar the hate towards the new pve realm is when you compare it to the hate that vanilla servers were getting on officials forums couple months ago

 

its almost identical

 

if they can afford additional hosting costs than why not make another pve server?

they have 2-3k qs in peak hours anyway

"yeah i rather have 2-3 THOUSAND ppl wait to play the game when they have time because i don't want the pve population to split"

well вау you девушка легкого поведения 

Edited December 22, 2016 by szuszak

[Yoga 3]

So let me get this straight, everytime someone rolls on Nostalrius they should wipe databases so ppl can roll on fresh start? what about when let's say kronos will maybe die and 1000 players finally reroll on Nost / Ely servers, let's wipe the database then so those ppl can level with the same pace?

I so much hate the decision to make any fresh servers because now we are stucked with these ppl that want fresh start all over again.

 

Myself i rolled on Nost Pvp somewhere around mid-late summer 2015 around 5-6 months after the server was released. Guess what i was there for all my guild's first MC kills and BWL kills and we killed nefarian at the same week as the Server first guilds. So 5-6 months behind and I could catch up whole server progression's. This nonsense need's to seriously stop. PVE will be absolutely perfect after they open fresh server because i think many that roll on fresh are playing there and not on PVP atm.

[Worldstar 36]

So let me get this straight, everytime someone rolls on Nostalrius they should wipe databases so ppl can roll on fresh start? what about when let's say kronos will maybe die and 1000 players finally reroll on Nost / Ely servers, let's wipe the database then so those ppl can level with the same pace?

I so much hate the decision to make any fresh servers because now we are stucked with these ppl that want fresh start all over again.

 

Myself i rolled on Nost Pvp somewhere around mid-late summer 2015 around 5-6 months after the server was released. Guess what i was there for all my guild's first MC kills and BWL kills and we killed nefarian at the same week as the Server first guilds. So 5-6 months behind and I could catch up whole server progression's. This nonsense need's to seriously stop. PVE will be absolutely perfect after they open fresh server because i think many that roll on fresh are playing there and not on PVP atm.

[Yoga 3]

^^ The reasoning to open new pvp server is not so players can have fresh start it's because the pvp server was full before shutdown and with these PR they knew more players were coming. Only reason to add new server is if the old one is so overcrowded it makes playing impossible. So now we have 1 fresh server and announcement coming in couple days. After the server opens you can re-calclulate if pve realm is too full and make decision to open fresh pve.

 

I hope this point doesnt go straight over your head: Reason to open new realms is not to have fresh start for the ppl who miss starting of servers, it is to split the population so gameplay stays enjoyable.

[Xylon666Darkstar 4]

We don't need a second PvE server. Besides, whose going to pay for it? Staff it w/ GMs? More devs?

STFU with your ungrateful demands and instant gratification needs.

[Worldstar 36]

We don't need a second PvE server. Besides, whose going to pay for it? Staff it w/ GMs? More devs?

STFU with your ungrateful demands and instant gratification needs.

1. Why would you need more devs to open another server?

2. The people who play on the server would fund it with donations obviously. 40 people a month donating $10 would cover it. You do the math. It's nothing to fund it considering donations.

3. Staff it w/ gms? You realize it's the same # of total players right? It's not like we would really need more GM's. People can always apply to be GM's anyways.

 

Go outside and get a breath of fresh air. You seem really upset for some reason over people wanting a fresh PVE server.

[kastle 4]

 

Go outside and get a breath of fresh air. You seem really upset for some reason over people wanting a fresh PVE server.

 

You seem upset enough to continue championing the idea of a new server when it's completely useless, and would not only be a waste of time but resources as well. 

 

Nost has been up for a few days and there are new threads every few hours about idiotic suggestions pertaining to opening new servers because 1) people have no patience 2) they somehow feel the project needs to cater to their specific desires 3) you guys might actually just be retarded. The PvE server is in a great spot right now for new comers and returning players alike (sans a little queue time, get over it, it wont last forever). 

 

Log off for a bit, jesus.

Edited December 22, 2016 by kastle

[magicrealm 0]

Is there any official Statement from Elysium about a new Server ?

[Glenzig 34]

Is there any official Statement from Elysium about a new Server ?

They had to cancel it. All the useless posts from people that can't read used up the remaining server space.

[Sharatar 1]

Guys, you are getting this 100% wrong. You don't need to wipe the server to make a level playing field just allow new players a catch up mechanic like an instant level 55 character. Problem solved.

[Rayaleith 2]

You seem upset enough to continue championing the idea of a new server when it's completely useless, and would not only be a waste of time but resources as well. 

 

Nost has been up for a few days and there are new threads every few hours about idiotic suggestions pertaining to opening new servers because 1) people have no patience 2) they somehow feel the project needs to cater to their specific desires 3) you guys might actually just be retarded. The PvE server is in a great spot right now stop for new comers and returning players alike (sans a little queue time, get over it, it wont last forever). 

 

Log off for a bit, jesus.

 

I think that Elysium people should wait for a while and then decide what to do. I say this first to avoid posts like the one I quote.

 

But... Why do you guys attack to someone who has an opinion and bring it for conversation? Take the post I quote for example. There are worse answers than this of course but just look at this... "idiotic suggestions", assumes that people are either "retards" or have "no patience" and all this for a ваууin game in a ваууin private server. 

 

My opinion is that these posts offer nothing significant. Not because of the actual content or the ideas behind it but just because of the way she tries to express it. Say your opinion but really, stop offending people like this. People may not like waiting for an hour at queue. You don't mind waiting. Others do mind. Why do you dismiss it? Just because you like waiting? Others might not enjoy seeing resource nodes disappearing the second they appear (aka overpopulation). 

 

Yes, your argument is when the hype goes away people will leave. Ok, sounds legit. Just say it and move along. Why act like a kid?

Edited December 22, 2016 by Rayaleith

[casperthestoner 0]

Well, I suppose I have no say in the servers anyway, but I'm still for certain that the fresh realm will be labeled as PVP.
I'm not starting on the old PVE Realm either as I have 1 50 character on the old PVP realm soon to be 60 as a character to raid with until the release.
I want to go balls deep in the new realm regardless if it's PVP or not.

I'm not waiting extra months, or years until a 2nd pve server just because i want to experience 2 years of content at the same pace with everyone else.

 

But we still have the issue of possible PVP imbalance, hopefully not too drastic if something can be done about it.

I don't like playing as horde, but if alliance players aren't going to do anything in world PVP I'm going to have to split my characters into both factions.

Edited December 22, 2016 by casperthestoner

[Worldstar 36]

You seem upset enough to continue championing the idea of a new server when it's completely useless, and would not only be a waste of time but resources as well. 

 

Nost has been up for a few days and there are new threads every few hours about idiotic suggestions pertaining to opening new servers because 1) people have no patience 2) they somehow feel the project needs to cater to their specific desires 3) you guys might actually just be retarded. The PvE server is in a great spot right now stop for new comers and returning players alike (sans a little queue time, get over it, it wont last forever). 

 

Log off for a bit, jesus.

Lol i'm anything but upset. I'll just choose to play on the fresh PVP. That doesn't mean that it would be better to have a fresh PVE and PVP.

 

 

Got everyone from Nost PVE in here complaining because they know a fresh PVE server would result in more people on that instead of Nost PVE

 

Get over yourself. Your reasons for not having it are not reasons, but moreso baseless insults. It's like how liberals argue.

[kastle 4]

stuff

 

It's rather difficult to speak calmly present your point to the people who are so caught up in what they feel they deserve from the project that they'd even make threads like this to begin with. The Elysium team stated how many servers there would be, how they would roll out, the progression timeline and so on. If my post offers nothing of significance, neither does everyone suggesting the team alter their planned roll out for their individual benefit, when we know it isn't going to happen nor should it. 

 

If you'd like me to phrase it more kindly as to not hurt anyones feelings: The queues will go away, the servers will stabilize, you're not 'behind' because MC is out and please have some patience. The point is still the same lol

[kastle 4]

double 

Edited December 22, 2016 by kastle

[JunkShop 1]

Lol i'm anything but upset. I'll just choose to play on the fresh PVP. That doesn't mean that it would be better to have a fresh PVE and PVP.

 

 

Got everyone from Nost PVE in here complaining because they know a fresh PVE server would result in more people on that instead of Nost PVE

 

Get over yourself. Your reasons for not having it are not reasons, but moreso baseless insults. It's like how liberals argue.

 

That's not true.  IF once the fresh PvP server comes, the queues on the PvE server get so bad that an extra server is required, then I'd say, yes, go for it, create a fresh PvE server.  But, at this time, we have no idea if we even need one, because there hasn't been enough time elapsed to have any real information about it.  It's likely that there are people on the PvE awaiting the fresh PvP server and those people will leave as soon as the new server comes.

 

We need to wait.  There is no point opening a new server until we know if it's required or all that happens is a relatively small number of PvE players are split over two realms when we could all fit on one comfortably.  You don't just open new servers because a handful of people want some server firsts.  You do it because the other one is constantly full with large queues and a new server would benefit everybody.

Edited December 22, 2016 by JunkShop