Why people want fresh so much?

[Drain 19]

Most probably want it because they have nothing invested into the older ones, and want a fair start. I fail to see why this is frowned upon. Starting new on a server as old as Nost PVP at this point is miserable. What I also fail to see though is why they have to act like children about those of us who are staying with the older realms. We have investments here, and aren't eager to start all over if we don't have to. I've seen nothing but hatred between 2 different groups of idiots, who both act as if the other doesn't have the right to exist, or that its players deserve scorn and mockery. Point is, play on whichever one you want, let others do the same, and shut up about it.

[Fightmilk 0]

You guys realise not everyone played on nost 1.0 right? If you had choice, starting at lvl 1 to join a server with geared 60s on day 1 or to join a fresh server where everyone starts at lvl 1, which would you choose? Seems like a pretty easy choice for me.

[Spliffrichard 0]

Because starting on a fresh, blizz-like, vanilla PVP server is a very rare opportunity.  It may be the last great opportunity.  The community is at its peak, the Nost core/code is in a very good place, and it is a PVP server.

 

I started on Nost PVP around the ZG patch, got to 60 and did some raiding.  It's not the same after BWL is already on farm.  I want to play while UBRS is on farm and Ragnaros hasn't been downed.

You got the point!

Nothing to add.

[Strahl 2]

Because the majority wanting fresh server; are Retail-trash-wrath-baby-cata-fetuses-CUCKs

Far too many toxic people are going to play on fresh server, making it for me;an easy choice of staying on Nost PvP.

so sad to see that all the toxic people start on the new server. you convinced me

[Mozq 1]

So guilds can take up the race for server first once more and you don't have to worry about getting ganked by full epic people I suppose.

[Kolltrem 1]

Because the majority wanting fresh server are Retail-trash-wrath-baby-cata-fetuses-CUCKs and it is in their nature to cry about being left behind.

 

On the other hand, It'll ease the load on the main servers and hopefully we wont get queues anymore.

 

Hi

 

We just want a fresh server for dont play with retards like you

[BarracudaDIO 0]

those doing that are retarded. What's the point? Farming MC, BWL and Ony with no other content available is that much fun? So stupid. I DEMAND ONE VALID REASON!

Because they want to get server first. There. A valid reason.

Some people don't mind farming that again and actually like doing it. And they believe that they will have a great time and a lot of fun. That seems like a pretty valid reason too.

There are a lot of people that don't really give a вау about their characters and gear. They care about their friends and the adventure. If they believe that it will be a fun experience for them then why not do it? Just because you don't see the point, doesn't mean that it is stupid.

[Nav 1]

I want to progress properly through various фекал thats already on farm on the older ones.

[BarracudaDIO 0]

The only valid reason in existence for starting on the fresh realm is if you've never played vanilla and want to experience it from the get go.

Starting fresh again because you want server first UBRS, Onyxia and MC? Newsflash kid, <GRIZZLY> will dominate absolutely everything from start to finish. MC will be cleared before the 10th day. You will only be able to do world dragons when they have quit the server.

Starting fresh because you like farming MC, Ony and BWL? You're still gonna do that on the old one. Want it to be challenging? Drop your gear

Starting fresh because you don't wanna get ganked by 60s? You better not gank lowbies when you're 60 you hypocritical balony

Starting fresh because you want a better community? Fresh players created this shitty community, because they're entitled, generation X shiet kids who can't respect anything.

Edit: typos cus I'm infuriated

 

Well you gave yourself a valid reason there. And again it is a pretty good one.

So just because you think GRIZZLY will do it then it is not worth a shot to try? Not even for second or third? If I had the time and I played on the fresh realm I would be very excited about it. It doesn't matter that GRIZZLY will dominate and get server first. For me and I guess maybe thousands of other players it is very fun and exciting to try beating them.

Farming those raids on a new server can't be compared to farming them on the old one. To me it feels like a completely different experience. Again...it is a lot more exciting for me to do that on the fresh server. It is more fun. It is more interesting and more exciting. Not just for me, but for a lot more people. Why can't you just get it through your head that there are thousands of players that want to play that and that they will really enjoy it. Maybe I don't get it myself. There are probably a hundred other reasons for someone to want to play on a fresh server. Just by looking at the amount of people interested in that show you the huge demand for it.

There will be thousands of players that would want to play on that server. They are going to have a great time on the server. People will continue to play on the PvP server and they will also have a great time on it. There will be more than enough people spread out everywhere enjoying the game. There is your valid reason. Make people happy. And make Vanilla ваууing great again

Edited December 23, 2016 by BarracudaDIO

[Milarepa 1]

The only valid reason in existence for starting on the fresh realm is if you've never played vanilla and want to experience it from the get go.

Starting fresh again because you want server first UBRS, Onyxia and MC? Newsflash kid, <GRIZZLY> will dominate absolutely everything from start to finish. MC will be cleared before the 10th day. You will only be able to do world dragons when they have quit the server.

Starting fresh because you like farming MC, Ony and BWL? You're still gonna do that on the old one. Want it to be challenging? Drop your gear

Starting fresh because you don't wanna get ganked by 60s? You better not gank lowbies when you're 60 you hypocritical balony

Starting fresh because you want a better community? Fresh players created this shitty community, because they're entitled, generation X shiet kids who can't respect anything.

Edit: typos cus I'm infuriated

 

If you're "infuriated" that's your problem.  Who gives a вау what other people prefer.  I certainly don't give a вау what you prefer.  You sound like the Legion people, "I don't like vanilla so you shouldn't like it either."

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

New-starters have OBJECTIVE reasons to roll on the new server : more fairness, new economy, not being ganked nor carried, a chance to reach the top of the progressive content.

 

For the veterans, it may be more SUBJECTIVE, but trust me there are a lot of reasons as well :

 

- A lot of players actually prefer the levelling journey over the raid-logging grind.

- Opportunity to try a new class, or change faction (Horde will regret my autism) without huge disadvantage.

- A new Vanilla server release is indeed a really rare chance brought to you. And even if you had previously levelled more than 30 toons or know every instance like your pocket, nothing beat the magic of thousands cows odyssey trough Mulgore, being in the first wave of levellers, whole regions still untouched by mankind, random and brutal noobs PVP raids.

- I just think it's more competitive (PVE content but! also just regarding your very little charachter progression) in a whole, as a hardcore gamer.

Edited December 23, 2016 by (TheReal) Krom

[Milarepa 1]

@shridevi you're confirmed illiterate. Want me to pick on your emotions and add stupid, irrelevant shiet to the topic? Go be a girl somewhere else. #somepeople

 

My bad, Friday rage.

Edited December 23, 2016 by Shridevi

[Rayaleith 2]

The only valid reason in existence for starting on the fresh realm is if you've never played vanilla and want to experience it from the get go.

Starting fresh again because you want server first UBRS, Onyxia and MC? Newsflash kid, <GRIZZLY> will dominate absolutely everything from start to finish. MC will be cleared before the 10th day. You will only be able to do world dragons when they have quit the server.

Starting fresh because you like farming MC, Ony and BWL? You're still gonna do that on the old one. Want it to be challenging? Drop your gear

Starting fresh because you don't wanna get ganked by 60s? You better not gank lowbies when you're 60 you hypocritical bonobo

Starting fresh because you want a better community? Fresh players created this shitty community, because they're entitled, generation Z shiet kids who can't respect anything.

Edit: typos cus I'm infuriated

 

Your answer can be a reason by itself. To avoid people like you.

[Rayaleith 2]

Don't worry. You won't ever be playing with people like me.

 

Excellent news.

[Syanis 2]

I'd say the reason for supporting a fresh server would be (including its pvp):

 

1. Chance at being at the top of the curve on something or other.

2. Having a chance at being an integral member of a new guild that may actually make it to serious raiding rather then just an extra picked up along the way.

3. Being able to enjoy the pvp server aspect without having to deal with high level bored gankers.

4. Not feeling behind others in money, crafting, gear, and so forth by months+.

5 The chance at being ahead of the curve enough that you could go ganking yourself (maybe bringing some friends).

6. Its shiny and new.... people like shiny and new.

7. Not having to deal with some of the entitled mentality Nost players who think that they are above the rest.

8. Its simply the hype, Dude! Like everyone is going to be there Duude!

 

Pretty sure many of these apply to each person depending on the person. For many a number of these apply to me as well.

[Knetik 2]

Idk for you, but for me I prefer steak.

There is much more flavor that will be more edible.

Why "Chicken" is a big thing?

[(TheReal) Krom 7]

IKR ?

 

Steak is just plain superior, maybe harder to chew but back in a time where the restauration cared more about client satisfaction, than mass production for profit.

You think you want steak, but you don't.

Go back to KFC.

[Bruno 0]

Instead of making a resolution, which most of us aren't all that great at keeping, why not look for some areas in your life where you'd like to begin anew? Here are some tools to make starting over a little easier and your new year a little more emotionally fit.

1. Starting over is not the same as recouping from a failure. It is a new beginning. This mindset is helpful because it keeps you from wasting your time being too hard on yourself.

2. Moving through life is like climbing stairs. You go up a level and then you level off. Nothing is ever a straight shot. Have some patience with yourself and with your newfound direction.

3. This new year is also a new decade. It could also be a new life if you approach it in the right way. Sometimes little ideas can turn into big things. Try writing that letter to the editor or, if you need to, make the choice to drink a little less alcohol.

4. Endings are not necessarily bad things. Even if the past year was your best so far, the one ahead might just leave it in the dust. This is also true if it's been your worst year so far, and you've suddenly found yourself unemployed or unattached.

5. Starting over may feel scary, but it's really a cause for celebration. Think of it as exciting, and many of your anxious feelings will begin to fade.

6. Remember that your future is not governed by your past. No matter what has happened in your life, you can find a way to make things a little better for yourself, and hopefully for those around you as well.

7. Having to start over is different from choosing to start over. For those whose lives are still in chaos because of manmade and natural disasters, starting over is not a choice. Giving support to those in need and being able to accept it when necessary are great qualities.

8. Healthy alternatives to negative lifestyle patterns abound. Take baby steps if you don't feel comfortable making all your changes on January 1. If you can't stop a bad habit, start by cutting back. It's okay to give yourself a little time to moderate or stop something that's hurting you.

9. It's not all about joining a gym to get fit. What about taking a dance class to get in shape and have fun at the same time? Starting over can mean chasing your dreams. We're happiest when we're moving toward a goal.

10. Starting over is about giving yourself a chance at real happiness. You will have to be brave and get good at learning new things, but how bad can that be? At the very worst, you will acquire the skills you need to start on the next project.

The new year is a great time to start over. Remember that once you honestly commit to the changes, you have already begun the process.

[Enhancement 12]

Because after all this time, I have no attachment to my old toons. I don't want to play them at all. I want to start a new toon. What better way to do that than on a fresh server, when everyone else is starting over too. A new world. New adventures. It's exciting! Hopefully the wait isn't much longer.

[EffToyz 12]

Generally, reasons for me are simple. My "main" on ElyNost now is at lvl 33. That was really hard road there, because in low level zones 24/7 some 60s just griefing фекал out of people. Killing quest NPCs, killing fly masters, killing you as soon as you get in contested zone.

 

I know, I know. "Why you are playing on PvP server" argument. I do love PvP server. I enjoy random encounters. Even if you didn't kill your opponent and just got away, it already feels good.

Now, what I meant to say is when you start as everyone else (and a lot of people who already has full geared 60 probably just will stay), you can go this road way easier. Yes, some will power level, but this is vanilla and you won't be able out level that fast. Because when you are bullying people in low level zone, your enemy already in dungeons, gearing up. So my first character to hit lvl 60 will not be tortured by some basement dweller just to make him feel a bit better.

 

When these morons gonna hit 60, I'm gonna be around lvl 50. And this is not fun, to bother bunch of 50s (pretty often that backfires), when you can one shot cannon fodder in Redridge and Ashenvale.

 

TL;DR: I just wanna level at least one character without spending 90% trying to dodge top levels with nothing better to do than one shot me.

[Sundanc_r 19]

why would anyone prefer old and filthy over young and fresh?

[tjillin 1]

I think there are many reasons why people would want to start fresh, as there are reasons to why they would want the(ir) old server back. 

 

Just because you want one thing doesn't necessarily mean you have to be against another. If you don't care for something just let the 'other' people live in peace? I don't understand why there has to be this much mud slinging going on. A bit of friendly teasing should be okay, but acting as if someone is less than you... 

 

PvE players are not less manly man than PvP players.

PvP players are not less mature than PvE players.

Old Nost players are not more legacy than others.

Fresh realm players are not less hyped than you were for your old characters to come back. 

[k3lt 0]

Personally, so i dont have to deal with 12 year old lvl 60's killing quest / FP npc's in low level areas.

Edited December 25, 2016 by k3lt

[Destron 2]

sonder n. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness—an epic story that continues invisibly around you like an anthill sprawling deep underground, with elaborate passageways to thousands of other lives that you’ll never know existed, in which you might appear only once, as an extra sipping coffee in the background, as a blur of traffic passing on the highway, as a lighted window at dusk.

[Scambug 9]

1) Nostarius PvP is overcrowded, questing is a nightmare and we often have Qs.

2) Huge power gap between old and new players. New players are useless in PvP and have a hard time joining raids.

3) The economy is crap for new players, 2g for a lvl 5 green, wtf? Impossible to make money from professions.

4) New players get perma ganked by no life 60s. Stupid.

5) More servers means more players and more players means more support for the project.

Edited December 25, 2016 by Scambug