4 reasons to roll Nostalrius-PvP over Elysium

[Milarepa 1]

Do you really need this explained to you?

I leveled 1-60 on Nost PVP after the ZG patch and it was a painful grind.  60s ganked people constantly.  Everyone was decked out in BWL gear.  PVPing was difficult.  Guilds were established and finding core raider spots was difficult.  New players missed half of the fucking vanilla experience.  How is jumping right into DM and ZG a real vanilla experience?  How is joining your first Onyxia raid, "LFM Onyxia head, shard of scale, backpack, sinew reserved" a real vanilla experience?

Elysium is a FRESH server, like starting WoW when it launched.  That is what it feels like too.  It's the most fun I've had in months.  There is a contagious excitement.  We get to experience ALL of vanilla.  At 60 I want to grind BRD, BRS, Scholo, Strat, because that's part of the game.

If a fresh server opened up a year from now I would understand if new players want to play on it.  In fact I would be interested in playing on it too.  Why?  Because it's fucking vanilla.  There is a finite amount of content.  What the fuck do you expect people to do 1-2 years from now when Naxx is cleared?  If they can't transfer to a BC server, they're going to start on a fresh vanilla server again.

Edited January 11, 2017 by Shridevi

[MoominTroll 0]

Running from bank to AH in Ironforge, seeing 4 Benedictions, made the choice for me.

I raided Naxx in retail, and I wanted a fresh experience. Not a server where everyone is covered in Epics.

I want the old experience again, or at least something similar.

[Dralek 5]

2 hours ago, boonmike said:

dude why would anyone want to play vanilla just so you can be boosted in mc??

i was boosted before in mc and it was so freaking lame.

no challenge, no fun, just follow and let them boost you....  its stupid

u call that vanilla experience? no thanks !

 

2 hours ago, Shridevi said:

Do you really need this explained to you?

I leveled 1-60 on Nost PVP after the ZG patch and it was a painful grind.  60s ganked people constantly.  Everyone was decked out in BWL gear.  PVPing was difficult.  Guilds were established and finding core raider spots was difficult.  New players missed half of the fucking vanilla experience.  How is jumping right into DM and ZG a real vanilla experience?  How is joining your first Onyxia raid, "LFM Onyxia head, shard of scale, backpack, sinew reserved" a real vanilla experience?

Elysium is a FRESH server, like starting WoW when it launched.  That is what it feels like too.  It's the most fun I've had in months.  There is a contagious excitement.  We get to experience ALL of vanilla.  At 60 I want to grind BRD, BRS, Scholo, Strat, because that's part of the game.

While I would generally agree with this 2 statements, the game will never be a *new* experienced (unless of course you never played a vanilla realm before).

Most people here have done MC an ONY countless of times, either in retail vanilla or different private servers. Granted, doing MC in blue gear is clearly a different experience. However, the same can be said about running AQ or Nax, something which much less people have ever experienced.

I personally feel everyone should be able to play what they prefer, but discarding the old nost realm based on lousy assumptions that everyone is "decked out" and thus ahead of you, is quite wrong.

[Dralek 5]

32 minutes ago, MoominTroll said:

Running from bank to AH in Ironforge, seeing 4 Benedictions, made the choice for me.

I raided Naxx in retail, and I wanted a fresh experience. Not a server where everyone is covered in Epics.

I want the old experience again, or at least something similar.

People are decked in epics and benedictions because people know how to play, what to farm, etc.

Everyone that is not in epics, is running around in pre-raid BiS blue gear, which was certainly not the case for early vanilla. Back in the day people were geared with whatever they could find. They didn't specifically hunt for certain items.

[MoominTroll 0]

34 minutes ago, Dralek said:

People are decked in epics and benedictions because people know how to play, what to farm, etc.

Everyone that is not in epics, is running around in pre-raid BiS blue gear, which was certainly not the case for early vanilla. Back in the day people were geared with whatever they could find. They didn't specifically hunt for certain items.

People are decked, because the server is old. I wanted a fresh start. Hence the new server was the choice for me.

[Dralek 5]

15 minutes ago, MoominTroll said:

People are decked, because the server is old. I wanted a fresh start. Hence the new server was the choice for me.

And I think thats fantastic. But getting decked as a "freshy" in the old pvp isn't hard at all either. Some people I know went from greens to epics in the first week. This is because most guilds began to recruit new players, needing to fill raid spots.

For those that wish to raid AQ, and are perhaps tired of running MC/ONY, the old pvp is a good valid option, given that in practice, the argument that people are decked falls apart, because most loot goes to the new players.

But I think the fresh pvp is great, I've personally tried playing there, although I haven't been able because of the huge queue. However, I do find it absurd to criticize the old nost pvp if one isn't playing there at all.

Edited January 11, 2017 by Dralek

[Kazuma 11]

3 hours ago, MoominTroll said:

Running from bank to AH in Ironforge, seeing 4 Benedictions, made the choice for me.

I raided Naxx in retail, and I wanted a fresh experience. Not a server where everyone is covered in Epics.

I want the old experience again, or at least something similar.

This is the same logic that germans had when they thought nazism was ok.

[westomopresto 1]

I had a 52 warrior & 50 hunter on nost pvp.
was getting ganked constantly, by 60s. geared.

 

no thanks homie, enjoy as nost slowly dies.

[Ashocck 0]

19 hours ago, rex said:

I started playing on retail 2 weeks after game release while you were still sucking on your mommas  tits. Don't judge people who chose to play on fresh server.

I was just about to post something along those lines but you beat me to it. The ones who really amuse me are those ppl who never played vanilla in retail and think that just because they played on Nost, it makes them vets. 

[papakoko 13]

not sure if anyone mentioned it but as a (new to server) player , I see lvl 5-10 greens on Elysium going for 4 to 10 sil.. On NOST that same gear sells for 2-4 gold.. 

just sayin. For me though I was heavy into DAOC when WoW first launched .. I did'nt put more then a month or two into it. Same with BC and WOTLK . So for me personally the fresh start is the place to be so that I may experience everything vanilla has to offer as it was at launch.  

[Lifealert 19]

5 hours ago, MoominTroll said:

Running from bank to AH in Ironforge, seeing 4 Benedictions, made the choice for me.

I raided Naxx in retail, and I wanted a fresh experience. Not a server where everyone is covered in Epics.

I want the old experience again, or at least something similar.

Basically you are advocating equality. Listen bud just because people have more than you doesn't mean it's the end of the world. I bet you're one of those people who hate the wealthy just because they have money. People are going to have better gear than you on the fresh server too and nothing is going to change that fact. 

 

1 hour ago, westomopresto said:

I had a 52 warrior & 50 hunter on nost pvp.
was getting ganked constantly, by 60s. geared.

 

no thanks homie, enjoy as nost slowly dies.

And you're going to be one of those guys who never hits 60 on Elysium or constantly levels new characters. There is seriously something wrong with players like you. Also: enjoy awful MC gear for 7+ months and 300g flask prices.

7 hours ago, boonmike said:

dude why would anyone want to play vanilla just so you can be boosted in mc??

i was boosted before in mc and it was so freaking lame.

no challenge, no fun, just follow and let them boost you....  its stupid

u call that vanilla experience? no thanks !

MC is no challenge and no fun. Hence why fresh start server population is going to go down the drain after 2 to 3 months once people realize the only content they have is MC/ony.

[Whiskra 0]

11 hours ago, Shridevi said:

Do you really need this explained to you?

I leveled 1-60 on Nost PVP after the ZG patch and it was a painful grind.  60s ganked people constantly.  Everyone was decked out in BWL gear.  PVPing was difficult.  Guilds were established and finding core raider spots was difficult.  New players missed half of the ваууing vanilla experience.  How is jumping right into DM and ZG a real vanilla experience?  How is joining your first Onyxia raid, "LFM Onyxia head, shard of scale, backpack, sinew reserved" a real vanilla experience?

 

According to you, would joining the game during, say, Cataclysm and late Firelands, not be a "Cataclysm" experience because you missed out on the prenerf heroic dungeons and ridiculously overtuned 10-man tier 11 raids?

 

Make no mistake, joining late is still part of the experience, but what you want is indeed the fresh experience of everyone starting from scratch.

[Nymis 12]

On 1/10/2017 at 4:21 AM, Lifealert said:

NUMBER TWO - Better leveling experience

 

 I stopped reading after this because I recently leveled two characters to level 20 on both servers. Nost PvP had the same level 60 gankers in the starting areas over and over against each night and I couldn't do much. The starting areas were just as bad though I did have an easier time finding mobs on Nost PvP it wasn't outstandingly easier. 

[kastle 4]

These arguments just keep going round and round, I'm not sure what the point of these posts are as you're not swaying any opinions you're just talking to talk. Everyone is going to justify whatever decision they've made until they're blue in the face.

Nost players will say the lack of content is going to be boring, the queue times suck, and there really isn't any need to reroll for the 14th time to just run the same content for another 7 months when the shit isn't that hard, or interesting anyway (you WANT to farm 2hr scholos?).

Elysium players don't like being camped by 60's with literally nothing better to do with their lives, they don't want to feel 'left behind', and think that because people aren't wiping every raid because they're under geared, they're somehow not getting a more authentic vanilla experience. 

Newsflash, every problem Nost is facing, Elysium will too. We'll all be just as miserable bitching to one another on the forums until the project no longer exists. Let elysium people have their fun, and let nost people enjoy themselves too. 

Edited January 12, 2017 by kastle

[wickedwizard 2]

tl;dr : Do/Play what you want. 

[dahlblom 4]

58 minutes ago, wickedwizard said:

tl;dr : Do/Play what you want. 

People completely forgot about this.

[MoominTroll 0]

13 hours ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

im not sure what to tell you if you don't know how to gear on an established server.... you probably don't belong on vanila wow though that's Forsure lol. 

I'm lvl 10. Of course I won't get decked. This is nothing about ability to play, but more that Im looking for that wonderous and mysterious feeling again. 

I wanted to be able to experience things again. Just a personal choice, nothing about what server is better then the other for people. I choose the new server because if wanted a fresh experience. Nothing more. :) 

[cowking 5]

feels like the one that made this post is one of the full t2/rank 14 people on nostalrius pvp wanting people to come back so he can gank them

[kegboy 8]

5 minutes ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

Don't like being camped by 60s? Don't like ques and lag? 

 

Nost PvE.... problem solved ffs. 

ya come join us care bears 

[kegboy 8]

but i only play nostalrius pvp server. so i guess you lost 

39 minutes ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

Yeah join fresh then complain about a direct product of the fresh and be too pussy to roll on an established PVP realm and then call others carebears! 

 

This community is so retarded holy shit. 

 

[khalismur 6]

4 minutes ago, kegboy said:

but i only play nostalrius pvp server. so i guess you lost 

 

He's too proud to accept being proved wrong and always wants to have the final word. Don't bother...

[dahlblom 4]

6 minutes ago, kegboy said:

but i only play nostalrius pvp server. so i guess you lost 

 

"ya come join us care bears"

Still toxic nevertheless but that doesn't matter I guess.

[Strahl 2]

2 hours ago, khalismur said:

He's too proud to accept being proved wrong and always wants to have the final word. Don't bother...

holy shit, yes man. exactly what I was thinking.

obnoxious posts galore with no substance. getting shut down when making false claims and then lashing out. always a fun read

"too pussy to roll on an established PVP realm" lol the fuq. you getting shanked mate, easily

[Milarepa 1]

12 hours ago, Whiskra said:

According to you, would joining the game during, say, Cataclysm and late Firelands, not be a "Cataclysm" experience because you missed out on the prenerf heroic dungeons and ridiculously overtuned 10-man tier 11 raids?

 

Make no mistake, joining late is still part of the experience, but what you want is indeed the fresh experience of everyone starting from scratch.

Of course it fucking matters.  I did come back mid-Cata and missed the entire FL progression.

You prepare for the raid launch.  You have a group of friends in a guild and everyone invests time and effort into killing the first boss.  There are fights, drama, laughter, eventually you succeed, the boss drops loot, you get DKP or an item, everyone is happy, the reward center of the brain lights up, and you move onto the second boss.  This continues until it's cleared.  This is part of the FUCKING game.  It's not part of the game to skip the entire Onyxia attunement quest line because AQ20 and AQ40 are already out by the time you hit 60.  You trade the entire above-mentioned raid experience with taking a trip to the BWL Orchards and farming free shit like a lowly leech.

The Nost PVP purists are no different than retailers insisting that everyone should play their version of the game because it's the most "valid" and the best.  Fuck off.

[Zachb34 7]

This thread is sort of like someone arguing that a 90 year old woman is better looking than 18 year old one. 

 

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