Mentathiel 5 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 Okay, but does anyone actually get confused by VC or is it just some prissy excuse to get your knickers in a knot? Be honest... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maos 1 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) DM is Dire Maul. When people were looking for Deadmines groups on my server they said Deadmines in places where it could be confused with Dire Maul, or DM when actually in Westfall. On another note, it's Strat Baron and Strat Scarlet. I don't know why people started saying UD and Living, but it's been confusing me for a long time. There are a lot of undead mobs in "living" as well. Edited January 17, 2017 by maos 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragingducks 9 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 DM has always been Deadmines. At least on all the retail EU servers I've played on. The fact that some people call it VC is hilarious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flowqz 34 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, maos said: DM is Dire Maul. When people were looking for Deadmines groups on my server they said Deadmines in places where it could be confused with Dire Maul, or DM when actually in Westfall. On another note, it's Strat Baron and Strat Scarlet. I don't know why people started saying UD and Living, but it's been confusing me for a long time. There are a lot of undead mobs in "living" as well. for me its "strat baron" and "strat living" :( better make an additional thread about it. Edited January 17, 2017 by flowqz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatsCantDPS 6 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, maos said: On another note, it's Strat Baron and Strat Scarlet. I don't know why people started saying UD and Living, but it's been confusing me for a long time. There are a lot of undead mobs in "living" as well. I'd always seen it as 'Strat UD and Scarlet'. Strat Living sounds like a homemaker magazine for the Scourge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElSlayer 3 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 I got confused by someone spamming "LFM DM" only ONCE. Then I've learnt to check /who before /w to him. Easy solution. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaedron 2 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) If you call it VC, you started playing when Diremaul came out most likely...it was always "DM" until Patch 1.3.0. Everyone I know who has played since beta or release day has always called it DM regardless though, tbh. If I need to go to Dire Maul, I'll simply put "LFG Dire Maul E/N/W" whatever side I wanna go to. The people I knew looking for "VC" were talking about the actual questline in Westfall. Edited January 17, 2017 by Vaedron 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 We're needing to clear up strathome now too people? What's next? Dogs and cats living together?! Wait where are the dogs in WoW? There's only wolves. Weren't they the first domesticated animal? Oh god. Where will it all end? Oh and it's Strat UD and Strat LIVE not living. And the reason is because the crusade isn't dead yet. Sheesh! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Innhale 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 Omg, who cares? You can shift click on a person's name. If they're level 60, they probably mean Dire Maul. If they're like level 20ish, they more than likely mean Dead Mines. I can't believe this has gone on for 3 pages. For the record, I'm a firm believer in the acronym "VC" (VanCleef) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zosyn 8 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 Chromaggus-EU from 2005-2008. Never ever heard of the term VC. Always referred to as DM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vangooch 3 Report post Posted January 17, 2017 VC feels too PC, but DM is making me SMH. WTF I just wanted the SUCC. Three pages, honestly. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carminejackal 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 I've never heard of VC either tbh, it's always been DM for Deadmines, but then admittedly I didn't start playing on retail until end of TBC. But all these time I have been playing retail (from end of TBC to Cata, from WoD to Legion) I've never once seen it called VC except here on these forums. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) @Henceforth Ahhh see this makes so much sense! Along with all of the other amazing things that so many people get wrong this is just one more to the pile and it's so obvious. Everyone and I mean everyone does a deadmines run, especially tbc on but very frequently dire maul would just get passed by, especially with the glut of dungeons around that level. Oh well people will still swear by their grandma that it's DM... One more tidbit that I just thought of. The biggest and for many only reason for going into the deadmines as a new player was the amazing quest that gave that crazy good gear: The Defias Brotherhood questline. Only when you enter the dungeon do you see that it is called "The Deadmines" because up until then it's just Moonbrook and then a crazy large mine where people died a lot. But what does the quest say? Kill Van Cleef. Well any new person is going to get a party going to go "kill VC" because they didn't have a clue that the dungeon had a specific name except well that's where that super amazing quest ended so go there. Edited January 18, 2017 by taladril 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted January 18, 2017 http://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Deadmines_(original)&oldid=7520 Revision as of 01:19, 23 January 2005 Also known as: DM, VC /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Henceforth said: Wowwiki did exist early as 2005. Sorry to let you know this. Fixed for you. http://wow.gamepedia.com/Wowpedia:About#Ownership_and_administration Quote WoWWiki.com was launched on 24 November 2004 by Rustak, in conjunction with AlexanderYoshi, as a source of information pertaining to World of Warcraft and the interface modification suite Cosmos.[ On 2 May 2007, it was announced that WoWWiki would be moving to Wikia. This move occurred two weeks later. On 29 September 2010, discussion began on whether to leave Wikia, due to irreconcilable differences with the administration. However, it was discovered that Wikia owned the domain name wowwiki.com and intended to keep a copy of the site running even if it moved. As a result of that discussion, a fork of WoWWiki was created as Wowpedia (wowpedia.org), with the new site being hosted by Curse and the new wiki becoming usable on 17 October 2010. 80% of the Players back in the days was using Wowwiki, Gamepedia is pure copy of Wowwiki. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Deadmines_(original)?oldid=7520 Revision as of 01:19, January 23, 2005 Also known as: DM, VC /Kind regards Killerduki Edited January 19, 2017 by killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glericka 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) +1 to DM When I run Deadmines, I like to do the whole instance. When you say L4 tank for VC, I assume you are on the 2nd to last boss (Cookie being the last boss, if anything, Should be called L4M Cookie not VC) and needing help to take down VC. Lets try the same thing elsewhere: L4 39 more for RG (MC) L4 9 more for GD (UBRS) L4 4 more for OW (LBRS) Only place it works is Onyxia, Since she is the only boss. So please stop saying VC cause all you are asking is to kill VC only. Also when Dire Maul was released, people would say DM East( or north or west). I doubt anyone was in particular looking to run all three at once, they always indicated which side. Edited January 19, 2017 by Glericka 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taladril 43 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, killerduki said: 80% of the Players back in the days was using Wowwiki, Gamepedia is pure copy of Wowwiki. I hate to break your bubble here but 100% of vanilla players used either Thottbot or Allakhazam... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zosyn 8 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, taladril said: I hate to break your bubble here but 100% of vanilla players used either Thottbot or Allakhazam... I remember copying the name of the quest then pasting it into Thottbot 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flowqz 34 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 things that differd from realm to realm cant be generalized /thread 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerduki 54 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 10 hours ago, taladril said: I hate to break your bubble here but 100% of vanilla players used either Thottbot or Allakhazam... Thottbot yes , Allakhazam no , Wowwiki yes. Time Traveling: http://web.archive.org/web/20061110225913/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381284&sid=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20071103193856/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39684523&sid=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20061110230020/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12052926&sid=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20061110225918/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11871224&sid=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20061110225850/http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11601186&sid=1 /Kind regards Killerduki 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starval 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2017 I didn't start playing until BC (before BT was released). Even at that point, deadmines was called VC. But that is in the US so maybe its a US/EU difference. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tywald 3 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 12 hours ago, Starval said: I didn't start playing until BC (before BT was released). Even at that point, deadmines was called VC. But that is in the US so maybe its a US/EU difference. Looks like it's the case, but we are only a small sample so can't really draw a conclusion. We in the EU(from my experience) can most likely distinguish between "DM" and "DM East", "DM West" and "DM North" in the chat; I'm sure you can as well but you prefer to use something else and that's cool. I also have a habit to shift click to check levels anyway so that's additional information I can use. If I see level 20s say it then I think of Deadmines and if I see 60s I will think of Dire Maul but then I have to ask what side they are going to do, if they already said what side then it can only mean Dire Maul(which I'm used to). I think it's best to respect both sides and learn the differences between the regions; I now understand that US prefer to use VC to refer to Deadmines but to avoid conflict myself I will just spell out Deadmines. I'm pretty new to Alliance as a whole; only played for like 6 months on Frostmane EU while I had years as Horde so I never run into this before but in my short stay I never saw VC, not that I can remember at least. I'm probably repeating myself but just wanted to make it clear from my point of view :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegboy 8 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Edited January 20, 2017 by kegboy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BogyOne 2 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 First world problems, eh? Apples of oranges? I don't recall it being such problem to have such mistakes, maybe people have had enough brains to shift click name to check if guy LFGing is 16 or 60. For what is worth, I have seen VC term used for the first time right now (ex Emerald Dream@EU). Just as I never seen abbreviation DD for DPS or needing on any instance drop until cross server events were introduced. Or corrupted blood hasn't broken out everywhere. Different servers, different cultures, we are all in one place now and you argue whose background is only right according to history you experienced on separate servers, hellooo! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realheals 0 Report post Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) World chat on Darrowshire has finally come to the solution to end this DM vs VC war. Since Deadmines is typed as one word, we just abbreviate it to 'D'. Edited January 20, 2017 by Realheals 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
