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Rogues weren't this fucked on Nostalrius Begins.

Player health was visible - not only mana.

Fishing was quite different too.   You actually were able to catch a large variation of things.

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This is absolutely not the Nost core. If anything, its very similar to the core that Emerald Dream was running.when their vanilla realm was somewhat played. Leveled 1 - 60 and for the most part, the same hiccups are popping up that were on ED. Easter Dresses, guard in Duskwood giving you the final quest for the Orphan whistle, pet issues, stealth issues, Vanish not properly working, as well as a multitude of other things that have been reported by friends playing.

Even things like World bosses being spawned that shouldn't be spawned are glaringly obvious signs. Is this core garbage? Not by any means. There is a lot working here that didn't even work on ED, but this is not the Nostalrius core, absolutely no way. 

Anyone with any knowledge of the private server development scene can see right through this, and i've dev'd on enough servers, and played on enough servers to pick up that this isn't the same core. White knights need to step down for a moment, literally defending nothing. Regardless of what core it is, my self and my friends are having fun and don't plan on leaving unless they absolutely botch major patches, but defending them like this, giving them the blanket they need to not communicate truth to us, is bull, and you're doing more harm to the community than any good. 

I don't want this to turn into another Feenix where there was no communication, and a complete clown fiesta in terms of lying, because the circle jerk fan boys and friends of the devs decided to sh1t post any thread asking for some transparency, and communication in regards to whats going on. 

Lets try to look at the bigger picture here, instead of kicking up the 'tism, boys and girls. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Xemni said:

Easter Dresses, guard in Duskwood giving you the final quest for the Orphan whistle, pet issues, stealth issues, Vanish not properly working, as well as a multitude of other things that have been reported by friends playing.

That is exactly the same on the old nost. The exact same things where on nost too.

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7 minutes ago, Wortgewandt said:

That is exactly the same on the old nost. The exact same things where on nost too.

No it isn't. I do not know what Nost you were playing, but this stuff was absolutely not on old Nost. For reference on stealth, you can go back and read up on what was broken about stealth on the Nost forums, and see that its completely different aspects that are busted here. 

For pets you can read the Nost hunters forums as well for reference material. Easter Dresses didn't drop, the Duskwood guard didn't give the quest, and Vanish wasn't cucked. Try again please. 

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7 minutes ago, Xemni said:

No they weren't. I do not know what Nost you were playing, but this stuff was absolutely not on old Nost. 

Yes it was. Especially the Duskwood guard giving you the Quest for the Orphan. It was around the same time when Stalvan was buggy. Somwhat around September.

If you didnt see that bug, you havent played on nost.

2 hours ago, Gez said:

Terrible and cringeworthy script. Mobs chase you 3 times longer distances than they are intended to

Remember the last couple of weeks on nost? I do. I remember Mobs in Silithus chasing me from the South Abyssal Camp, all the way to
cenarius Hold.

 

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1 hour ago, Revo said:

i know thats why it might be a fix. but im not sure about other mobs stats. the API offers functions such as UnitResistance("unit", "resistanceIndex"), but since relaunch these only work on yourself (and pet). i doubt it was meant to be that restricted.

I can use Beast Lore on BEASTS and everything shows, it is meant to be restricted that way.

 

What people fails to realize is the core has been updated since last April. A lot of people are misinformed or forgot how it was on Nost, they specially forgot how it was on retail vanilla, Nost was not as blizzlike as poeple think. Many of the same bugs and band aids can be found on both Nost and Elysium.

-Stiches wasn't even blizzlike on Nost and was very buggy so I'm not surprised to see him disabled, sometimes it's better to disable something than endure a buggy state, until it's fixed and actually blizzlike. FYI, on retail vanilla there was only 1 stiches and his pathing was STV entrance (iirc) to Darkshire. On Nost there was 3 stiches and they were often found spawning in Raven Hill.

-Mobs chasing you 3 times longer was also there on Nost but it does look worst here (that bug is so annoying that I feel it is worst here but I could be wrong).

-Mobs showing HP was never a thing at all, you have to use an addon that will CALCULATE target HP based on damage done and how fast the health bar drops, exact health couldnt be determined unless you use Beast Lore ability.

-Player life is only visible with addons, I use CTMOD and I can see my HP (without having to highlight mouse cursor on the health bar), party HP and Pet HP. Refer to previous point for target HP.

So please, stop spreading misinformation, specially if you never played retail WoW vanilla back in the days. And also stop using buggy addons not build for WoW 1.12, test CORRECTLY before calling out buggy, not blizzlike or not like it was on nost.

Edited by Warrax22

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Come on, fellas.  Ask yourselves, what's kind of like Nost, but isn't quite like Nost?  Maybe the work on Anathema 2.0 started earlier than the announcement, you know what I'm saying?

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15 minutes ago, Zipzo said:

That would just mean we're being constantly lied to all the time about what we're actually playing on, which makes me just as uncomfortable.

Especially if they are asking for donations under false pretenses. A lot of people donated money thinking it went to severs running the Nost core. I mean, the core is why there was a surge in registrations. Makes me wonder about that now. And do I get a refund if I was lied to? No...

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all conspiracy aside, people who say hp was visible on nost need a new pair of eyes or a memory replacement. infact nost was my first server having that feature and i remember it real gud, you guys probably used an addon or some shit. 

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10 hours ago, slipryy said:

what kind of brain damage is this? you had mobinfo on kid thats why u could see hp

you could NEVER see hostile hp on nostalrius

You couldn't see enemy hp on retail back then either.  Dayum the tinfoil hats are out aren'the they?

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10 hours ago, TheHappyCatsTail said:

It was cancer. And in all honesty they had some of the worst pathing I've ever seen. Mobs stuck in the ground, aggroing through walls, and when running going straight through the ground never to be seen again sometimes LOL. Just the tip of the iceberg of the annoying as shit problems I encountered in a very short period of time playing. 

Can confirm.  Stitches had the glitches.  Go help guildies kill a gang of stitchs, lots of PTSD from it going around.   I wish this was 100% nostalrius core...well actually I only miss one thing.  My priest being able to shadowmeld in combat.  which was spectacular.  Can we go ahead and put that back in?  ha.  Don't care if it's not pure Vanilla. : P

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Well even if it is Nostalrius core it 100% have more bugs than it had on Nostalrius servers half a year ago! It started with random chained mobs in Molten Core. By now they fixed that chain bugs but this bug wasn't on original Nostalrius. How ever the Elysium project servers run great even if there are some anoying bugs.

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What if Nost realms had different cores? :O

By the amount of controversy about the old nost bugs and other things, it sure seems so.

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14 minutes ago, Ristra said:

Does it matter what core is being used?  The servers are working, working well.  Keep on playing.

It does matter if they beg for donations under false pretenses. And no, it's not working well at all except for it being lagfree. It's as buggy as emerald dream, and I have no faith in anything over bwl to be scripted correctly.

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Well it's true. I doubt Valkyria team is able to script BWL well... still we don't have a alternative... we just could hope that Crestfall gonna be better? We will see. I stay on Elysium because there's no better alternative. Have fun at cuck sucking Kronos.

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46 minutes ago, Swineflu said:

It does matter if they beg for donations under false pretenses. And no, it's not working well at all except for it being lagfree. It's as buggy as emerald dream, and I have no faith in anything over bwl to be scripted correctly.

Is someone donating to the core or the team?  If that is what matters to you then don't donate?

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13 hours ago, Tudi said:

On Nostalrius you could see the enemies HP on Elysium no.

Not without MobInfo.

I appreciate that people are passionate but this is really getting ridiculous. I've answered this question before. Yes, it is/was the Nostalrius core. You want proof? Realize that nobody else has ever ran a stable vanilla server with over 5k population. The little things you notice are fixes and changes the devs did on the scripts and the database.

I also understand that when you see one thing that clashes with your memory of "how it should be", it's very easy get riled up like a little child and throw all your toys through the windows, but please kindly refrain from such behaviour. Calling the server absolute garbage or total фекал because you've encountered an issue or two, or see someone exaggerating and posting hyperbolic bullshit, is really going over the top. Get a grip. 

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