BG Premades

[homu2 1]

solution is simple: stop playing on that trash servers

[Emptora 17]

3 hours ago, homu2 said:

solution is simple: stop playing on that trash servers

LOL. But yet here you are playing on "that trash servers".

[Pipi 1]

On 19.3.2017 at 0:06 AM, Noom said:

You'r 100% right. 

Tell me if i'm wrong but league of legend is team based game and for the most part i was playing the main bracket was "soloqueue" and the max party you can do before queue was 2. Still the most played team based PvP game right ?

Overwatch premade face other premades, its a FPS that's different but you see again no way to fuck the game, same for CS:GO  ... All team based PvP Game have a matchmaking or restriction because now videos games are old and people know how to abuse it.

 

Back in 2006 "matchmaking" was not even a word, vanilla game designer could not do anything because the problem and the solution to this problem was never seen. 

And like you said, this is a MMORPG who came here for MLG Arathi ? For me it is much better a 2 friends restriction than no fun in battleground at all. I should do a strawpoll "Who take fun in battleground ?" The results would show us that we need a solution, if you have a better one that would be great.

To be honest i don't know, hope someone found a solution.

Nost tried to implement a matchmaking, peoples care they just need to find a good way to fix that.

Lol it cannot take this long, something important like this needs brainstorm if not they gave up on it !

 

 

[Kolltrem 1]

The author is right..

Who have fun on pug bg? 

And join a premade its not possible for everyone, you cannot join a premade when you you can do only 1h pvp / day.

[mytchi3 1]

23 minutes ago, Kolltrem said:

The author is right..

Who have fun on pug bg? 

And join a premade its not possible for everyone, you cannot join a premade when you you can do only 1h pvp / day.

You can, its not going to be a good premade, just random 10-15-40 people on TS going for same goal.

What you cannot join in rankers and bracket premades.

[Noom 2]

On 20/03/2017 at 3:14 PM, mytchi3 said:

You can, its not going to be a good premade, just random 10-15-40 people on TS going for same goal.

1/ This is blizzlike server, blizzard 1.1 does not require everyone to find a premade for AB queue and have a chance to win.

2/ Still not fun.

But the thing is happening right now in the battleground which is not blizzlike. To have a blizzlike experience, it is not the scripts that must be done exactly like blizzard but the way of playing there.

Removing premades would give battlegrounds the same experience as in 2006 or so. Maybe there were one or two per server but it does not force the 2 whole factions to do the same thing.

[Slicy 11]

Enough with the retarded suggestions already. When are you going to realize Battlegrounds are meant to be played and to coordinate with other players ? Where did you read solo queue should be the norm for 10v10 and 15v15 based content ?

Getting stomped by ranking premades is perfectly normal. Vanilla is about the survival of the strongest. You are weak/alone > you get shit on. Man up and make your own group or go back to retail/LoL/whatever solo queue friendly game you were playing.

The "way of playing" will never be the exact same as retail vanilla. Game knowledge is too advanced. Players know how to group up and work towards the same objectives, as they should in a mmorpg. You either deal with it or stfu.

[Noom 2]

9 minutes ago, Slicy said:

Enough with the retarded suggestions already. When are you going to realize Battlegrounds are meant to be played and to coordinate with other players ? Where did you read solo queue should be the norm for 10v10 and 15v15 based content ?

Getting stomped by ranking premades is perfectly normal. Vanilla is about the survival of the strongest. You are weak/alone > you get shit on. Man up and make your own group or go back to retail/LoL/whatever solo queue friendly game you were playing.

The "way of playing" will never be the exact same as retail vanilla. Game knowledge is too advanced. Players know how to group up and work towards the same objectives, as they should in a mmorpg. You either deal with it or stfu.

your argument is invalid, jk no argument. And stop talking to me like i'm a casual sir "Grand marshal E-penis oversized".

"deal with it or stfu" There is a "Suggestions" section, if CM lock the topic i'm ok with that.

You give us your opinion that's enough, you can go away now. Or come with something else than "deal with it or stfu".

Edited March 22, 2017 by Noom

[Slicy 11]

You are not having fun in BGs because you are simply too carebear and whiny to put a fight and make your own groups. Stop queuing for group based content if you can't be asked finding few likeminded players who want to play the BGs and win.

Anyways HF queuing for content you seem to not even enjoy because you get shit on. Idc what server you play on but if you can't enjoy solo queuing nor group queuing, your only solution is to play another game instead of crying on forums.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Slicy

[wickedwizard 2]

get your frents and git gud

[Noom 2]

9 minutes ago, Slicy said:

too carebear and whiny to put a fight and make your own groups

Or i'm not enough casual to start playling vanilla easy mod ? I want to grind the real way and take fun same time. But yeah the day CM lock this topic, maybe my premade finaly reach lvl 60 and we can start easy mod vanilla. But we did not come here for that.

[Slicy 11]

Wait you are QQing about lvl 60 BGs having few premades, but you are not lvl 60 yet ? :thinking:

There is good in both pugging and grouping (I've done both and would redo both again). Those who tell you otherwise are just butthurt they got stomped few times in a row or cba playing with other players. Nothing prevents you from grinding the real way aka you pug and then for last ranks you have to be somewhat minimum organized. Some nerds manage to keep pugging their last ranks even.

[mytchi3 1]

2 hours ago, Noom said:

Or i'm not enough casual to start playling vanilla easy mod ? I want to grind the real way and take fun same time. But yeah the day CM lock this topic, maybe my premade finaly reach lvl 60 and we can start easy mod vanilla. But we did not come here for that.

G8b8m8. Not lvl 60 already complaining about what will lvl 60 bg be like. Next will be warrior thread about them being UP and get killed by mobs while not lvl 60 yet

[smokeit 26]

My experience on zeth'kur is:

WSG - Alliance loses 8 out of 10 matches
AB - Quite balanced actually, but only played on ab weekends.

Those 2 matches alliance does win, are very close good games.

All in all, I'm having quite some fun in BG's but it could indeed maybe use a hand.

[Noom 2]

3 hours ago, Noom said:

maybe my premade finaly reach lvl 60 

You read what you want to read guys you realy look retarded now, i'm 60 and we don't care. I'm not gonna answer to off topic shit anymore.

[Byron 0]

People are full of bias in this forum holy shit.. OP is right

You're all acting like you ranked high and shit back in Vanilla pretending you know perfectly how it was and basically saying that 95% of the BG population consisted of premades ? That 20 out of 21 BG = Premades VS AFK Pugs ? (Im talkng about Elysium server). I think OP is not really complaining about premades but more about the fact that you are FORCED to premade if you want to have decent matches. Can't you see the obvious problem here ?

By the way he is not suggesting to totaly remove premades, you can still carry a battleground with 3 or 5 teammates.

But yeah, the problem is that its always the people that form these premades who are responding to the post. I'm starting to think you enjoy playing vs AFK pugs for 60 hours per week. Wow, what a challenge.

Edited March 23, 2017 by Byron

[Hurricane2 2]

Play the way you want.  Currently you aren't forced to do anything group wise yet you want to force others into doing something they clearly don't want.  Group or don't, it's up to you.  The obvious problem is you have no idea what you're talking about because you want to take options away from people because of your personal preference.

[PhilipRed 0]

Bgs are boring to everyone, the rankers (premades) and the pugs.

 

Just dont let group queuing. It might bring some fun.

 

 

[Magrim 0]

This sounds exactly the way the original was, it was fixed with cross realm battle ques.

[Owondyah 8]

GW2 removed premade queues of 5. Biggest you can queue up is 2 member party. People hate it, it broke pvp.

It's shit, it's stupid, it doesn't work. Further more... another good chance to throw in that "not blizzlike" thing.

 

If you do pvp and wanna get serious about it, premade is way to go. It would be same as asking raiders to not form guild runs and only do BWL pugs... LOL... imagine that!

 

[Noom 2]

2 hours ago, Owondyah said:

People hate it, it broke pvp

You think alliance enjoy 15 vs afk and horde enjoy afk 95% of BG ? You think we can actualy call this "pvp" ? People hate premade it broke pvp, jk this is not PVP, its stupid no fun RP grind. Remove big party  and its gonna be RP grind WHILE doing PVP.

[Sliklash 2]

disable grp queue doesn't kill premade, ref to av premade, all u have to do is count down 321, and all queue at same time. Disable grp queue is pointless.

[Sliklash 2]

make a instant queues for premades or ranking farms.

make a enforced 5mins waiting pool for random or solo queuer.  All ppl join same bg will be random matched to different bg instance. Not according to the time u queue, but all random matching, 5 mins a bunch. All bg queue pop up every 5 mins.

 

[Sabre 5]

BGs suck but too many premaders over normal players so that the issue is ignored.

[mytchi3 1]

This is unfixable, av premades exist. Premades are good for pvp when its premade v premade. You also cant enforce that hence av lremades 321 join. Pvp is what it is you cant change it or go around it just learn to love it.

If you want to test your skill and have fun doing world pvp. Battlegrounds are about organized pvp which premades are just a higher form of random and people do them to rank.